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Old 12-27-2012, 05:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Female or male when I already have a 2yr female dobie

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Ok we have a 2 1/2 female dobie she has been spayed at a young age and is the most loving dog. I want to get another dobie bc we plan on having baby's in the next two years and I want her to have a play mate and another dog to play with so when I have to put her out side she will not feel punished and just feel like she is being let out to play. I want to get a male bc I don't want her to feel like we are replacing her and I have heard that two females are not good. Now my husbend has the issue with getting a male and does not want it to spray our furniture . But I would want to get it fixed at a early age. I know I have heard bad things about getting them done early but I just do not want a spraying dog especially if I have a new baby. We got jaid fixed at like 4 months and she is an amazing dog. I just want to know what would be better for me and jaid(dobie) a male or female. Thank you to who all that reads this and responds. Any help is a lot of help
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Old 12-27-2012, 06:00 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Assuming you're talking to reputable breeders, they will not let you get a female with another female in the house. Dobermans can be same sex aggressive, females tend to be better than males, but best bet is get a male. Marking in the house is a training issue, not a male dog issue.
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Ok good. I want a male . And we crate trained our first one and she only had one accident in her 2yrs. My husbend is set on thinking that all males will spray and mark. But I just wanted to make sure that I wasn't crag in thinking that if we crate trained again he would hopefully not spray
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Assuming you're talking to reputable breeders, they will not let you get a female with another female in the house. Dobermans can be same sex aggressive, females tend to be better than males, but best bet is get a male. Marking in the house is a training issue, not a male dog issue.
I am sorry but you seem to be saying that a reputable breeder will never sell a dobe to a person with 2 dogs, since presumably they were never allowed to buy 2 of the same sex. I beg to differ.
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Assuming you're talking to reputable breeders, they will not let you get a female with another female in the house. Dobermans can be same sex aggressive, females tend to be better than males, but best bet is get a male. Marking in the house is a training issue, not a male dog issue.
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I am sorry but you seem to be saying that a reputable breeder will never sell a dobe to a person with 2 dogs, since presumably they were never allowed to buy 2 of the same sex. I beg to differ.
I agree with Kevin that marking is a training issue. Our first Dobe was a male and he only had one incident when he tried to mark inside at around 15 months and he quickly learned that is not acceptable. However, I disagree that reputable breeders will not sell a female to an owner that already has a female and totally agree with Vivienne. Yes, Dobermans can be same sex aggressive, but my experience has been that males are much worse than females. Although a bitch fight, should one break out, can be really bad. I know many, many people who have multiple bitches and one male though, all definitely from reputable breeders.

Ultimately, a male/female combo is probably safest. But I think two bitches is definitely doable.
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I want to get another dobie bc we plan on having baby's in the next two years and I want her to have a play mate and another dog to play with so when I have to put her out side she will not feel punished and just feel like she is being let out to play.
Hi again, I just re-read your post and wanted to add on to my response based on your above statement. I would personally suggest you may want to rethink your strategy and purpose for adding a 2nd dog. My experience with Dobes has been that they are not happy at all outside in the yard on their own. They want to be inside with their people. Sure, two dogs may play outside for a bit on their own, but I would personally not be getting a second dog just to keep the first one company.

Adding a second dog is going to increase your work, not decrease it. I just got a new puppy a couple months ago; my Dobe is 3 and my new puppy is now 16 weeks old. Trust me, this is not less work...and my new puppy has been pretty darn easy compared to how my Dobe was at this age. It is a significant more amount of work - at least it has been for me. I knew that going into it though and am having a ton of fun with both dogs. But, if you are going to be having kids in the coming few years, and you add another dog now, I would be concerned as to whether you have enough time to care (train, exercise, etc) for two dogs, particularly if your primary strategy is to "let them out in the back yard together". Sorry, not trying to be harsh. Just coming from the perspective of a new (first time) two dog home, and I don't have young children and I work from home, so I am able to be with the dogs a lot... Just some food for thought.
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Yes I agree with you on not putting them out there to just put them there. I'm salesman and make my on hours and my husbend works odd hrs so is always off during the day. Jaid(dobie) is an inside dog and is never left out side more than she wants to be bc I feel bad putting her out , but I just want her to have someone to play with.
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Going to have kids as in no kids yet? A lot of people get rid of their dogs when they have kids because it's hard work, I really wouldn't add a dog if it's just to keep the first dog company. Honestly, as great as raising a kid and dog to grow up together sounds, it'll be the same experience if you wait till the kid is at least in preschool, even later.


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Agree with others that getting another dog just for the other dog to have a play mate isnt the best idea. And two dogs is deffinately MUCH more work than just one.

And my male will be two years old next month, is intact and he has never marked furniture. That is part of potty training as a puppy. You teach them it is not acceptable before they even start doing it.

If you are worried that she doesn't like being outside, I would start working on training her to associate being outside as a good/fun thing. My pup loves just rolling around in the grass, chewing toys and laying in the sun for a few hours.
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Thank you again for all all of your responses. They are greatly appreciated especially the ones that answer my question male or female. We are getting another one I just did not know which would be better for us. We have a big back yard which jaid loves to play in. I choose not to leave her out there for long periods of time bc I love her and can't stand for her to be out side to long , especially if it is really cold or hott. She is not a handful she goes to bed at 7:30 and wakes up at 8:00 the next morning for when I go to work she also goes back to sleep when my husbend gets home. She is not I guess you say your tippical dobie . She loves to sleep. I want another dobie for protection and so
that she will have a play mate. I just wanted to know what would be best for her. Thank you again for your input )
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Two female dobes can be reactive to each other.

I've done the female plus female rescue twice now. My recent girl was a breeding dog and was apparently terrorized by her mother (also a breeding dog), and then by a breeding female in her next home.

She's okay with my girl Stormy, but I'd prefer a situation where they like each other more.

My first dobe grew up with a female lab, they just ignored each other completely. So a puppy coming into a home with another female is entirely different. They were never cuddly however. I'm trying to think of people on here who have two females that are cuddly....??

Males won't be marking if you neuter them, ime. It's the way I would go.
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I've only had 2 females get along after my male died. When he was alive they had to be 100% supervised and even then would only last about 2 minutes. Afterwards, yes, they cuddled and were best buds, but still occasionally would get into bitch fights. My current female, I can't even really let her play with females. All our playmate friends are males.

I just wanted to reiterate also that even though mine have a playmate, my doberman never wants to be outside for more than 5 minutes without me. If I'm more than 30 seconds opening the door he gives me those high pitched whiny barks until it's open.
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I'd take multiple bitches any day over a dog. But that's me! I much prefer bitches though. Any dogs can fight not get along, depends on the dogs and the owners. Yes a male/female combo is ideal for your average situation. As far as a male hiking indoors, potty train them! I've seen plenty of males that are neutered hike their legs. It comes down to potty training and rules and cleanliness. If they find a area that's been marked then there is a relative chance they will want to mark. Yes neutering should help prevent this to a degree. But please educate yourself on early neutering and spaying. Fixing a dog so early can and does have negative consequences.


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So a puppy coming into a home with another female is entirely different. They were never cuddly however. I'm trying to think of people on here who have two females that are cuddly....??
So far, they are cuddly, but do gravitate to wherever Yoda is laying initially:



but then again, they are still in this phase as well:



When I sit in my chair to watch TV, I get both the younger bitches on my lap and Lana lays her head on top of Jill, always. Sometimes I have Yoda underneath of it all and then I can't move.
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I am sorry but you seem to be saying that a reputable breeder will never sell a dobe to a person with 2 dogs, since presumably they were never allowed to buy 2 of the same sex. I beg to differ.
Wait, so are you suggesting that she get a female over a male, when she already has a female doberman in the house? Are you saying I'm wrong, meaning it's NOT better to get a male in her situation?
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Assuming you're talking to reputable breeders, they will not let you get a female with another female in the house. (bold mine) Dobermans can be same sex aggressive, females tend to be better than males, but best bet is get a male. Marking in the house is a training issue, not a male dog issue.
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Wait, so are you suggesting that she get a female over a male, when she already has a female doberman in the house? Are you saying I'm wrong, meaning it's NOT better to get a male in her situation?
I am only saying that you said something which I interpreted as meaning a reputable breeder will not sell you a female if you already have one.

Since it totally depends on the individual dogs involved and whether a puppy is brought into the house or not, I don't think that getting a male is a slam dunk either - ask BRW and other people with multiple female households and no males. I had a male once that I could not bring a female (puppy or adult) doberman into the household with.
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