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How can I stop/avoid my Husky from stealing my Dobe's toys/bones?

Justice likes to steal Sacha's bones and toys. I give them each a bone/toy to chew on and Sacha will go lay down and chew it... Justice will start to chew hers then walk over and try to take Sacha's bone. Sacha obviously doesn't like this and Justice won't knock it off... Any tips or help for this? Thank you!!!!
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My dogs only get high value treats in their crates to prevent resource guarding incidents.
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Tried the crates, my husky would just whine and bark until I let them out, also tried separating them in different rooms with a baby gate, still no luck, she would whine and bark about that too.
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Tried the crates, my husky would just whine and bark until I let them out, also tried separating them in different rooms with a baby gate, still no luck, she would whine and bark about that too.
Well, if you let her out when she whines and barks you have taught her that whining and barking work. They're smart like that - you have to not give in and only let them out when they are quiet. Crate training really is an invaluable skill for all dogs.
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When you say 'Justice won't knock it off', what do you mean? What have you tried to stop it?

Jewels was the WORST about stuff like that; she always had to try to get Juno's toy or bone. I don't allow that in part because Juno only tolerates Jewels shenanigans for a very limited time and no one wants a dog fight. Jewels is quite persistent (which is fabulous if someone is trying to kill me, but not as useful when I want her to quit doing some annoying behavior).

So, what I did was stand between Jewels and Juno, and just kept moving back and forth to block Jewels from getting close to Juno. I do NOT act threatening, stare at Jewels, or say anything anything to her. I would do this until Jewels would give up and turn away. Especially in the beginning, that took a long time, and I mean a very long time. I learned to give Juno her toy in a location where I could stand between them and see the TV Now, Jewels seldom does that, and when she does, she gives up easily when I block her from reaching Juno.

Others probably have way better solutions...but that's what I did with Jewels

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When you say 'Justice won't knock it off', what do you mean? What have to tried to stop it?

Jewels was the WORST about stuff like that; she always had to try to get Juno's toy or bone. I don't allow that in part because Juno only tolerates Jewels shenanigans for a very limited time and no one wants a dog fight. Jewels is quite persistent (which is fabulous if someone is trying to kill me, but not as useful when I want her to quit doing some annoying behavior).

So, what I did was stand between Jewels and Juno, and just kept moving back and forth to block Jewels from getting close to Juno. I do NOT act threatening, stare at Jewels, or say anything anything to her. I would do this until Jewels would give up and turn away. Especially in the beginning, that took a long time, and I mean a very long time. Now, Jewels seldom does that, and when she does, she gives up easily when I block her from reaching Juno.

Others probably have way better solutions...but that's what I did with Jewels
I have tried taking the bone away and handing her her toys or bone, and giving sacha back the one she was chewing, and redirecting her, but she very determinedly goes right back over and takes it from sacha lol thats what I meant by knock it off, as in she is sooooo determined in doing it, no matter the amount of redirection lol

Thats what Sacha is like too, she'll tolerate it for a while but then she stops tolerating it, and I don't want them fighting over toys or bones.
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I have tried taking the bone away and handing her her toys or bone, and giving sacha back the one she was chewing, and redirecting her, but she very determinedly goes right back over and takes it from sacha lol thats what I meant by knock it off, as in she is sooooo determined in doing it, no matter the amount of redirection lol

Thats what Sacha is like too, she'll tolerate it for a while but then she stops tolerating it, and I don't want them fighting over toys or bones.
I truly, and I mean, truly, feel your pain!! When Jewels decides to do something, she's completely dedicated to succeeding. And what makes it even harder for me is that I'm quite certain Jewel's IQ level is above mine

How old are they?
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definitely didnt think about it like that... we're still in the first early stages of crate training right now.
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I truly, and I mean, truly, feel your pain!! When Jewels decides to do something, she's completely dedicated to succeeding. And what makes it even harder for me is that I'm quite certain Jewel's IQ level is above mine

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12 weeks and 15 weeks. Justice (husky) is an extremely determined puppy, its amazing sometimes how when she gets an idea in her head, she will not stop trying to see it through.
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I just remembered the other thing I did was to exercise Jewels (a good game of fetch since she was still a puppy and couldn't do forced exercise) right before giving them chew bones.

I learned on this board, a tired puppy is a good puppy!
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Oh my, two puppies!! I feel tired just thinking about that

I think ZeldaRules has or had a Husky, she might have more insight about the breed that you'd find helpful.

You'll also want to read up on raising two puppies at the same time; someone had a great link about raising more than one puppy at a time.

Keep us posted on your progress!
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Oh my, two puppies!! I feel tired just thinking about that

I think ZeldaRules has or had a Husky, she might have more insight about the breed that you'd find helpful.

You'll also want to read up on raising two puppies at the same time; someone had a great link about raising more than one puppy at a time.

Keep us posted on your progress!
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We had the same problem, many years ago.
Our sons little dog Trevor (all 7 lb. YorkiePoo) would steal my Amy's favorite toys (when babysitting him) and when it came to the marrow bone time...again he thought he could get the good stuff out of his bone quickly...then the little bugger would run over to steal the dobes tasty bone.

That all STOPPED one day ASAP:
AMY let out a serious growl (10 seconds - most real) that put the little bad boy, in his place (finally)...LOL..I pissed myself laughing !!
- I always fully supervised the two of them (in the beginning) with delicious bones, and quick frankly, AMY standing up to the tiny bully dog, was very nice to see

My dogs are not crate trained, so when more than 1 dog has bones to eat, Dad stands in the middle or off to the side...to referee initially.
(if I need to block a dog from advancing for high value treats, it is done with my legs / voice pitch / body laungage...and I havn't lost yet, with confidence projected)
- I also look at this situation, as a perfect training exercise (so I don't avoid the confrontation, that might startup) / but one has to remain present
Until my ground rules are established...and house law & order prevails.
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Holy moly, you've got your hands full!

I've done a combo of what others have already stated, although what worked the best for Rocket was allowing the adult dogs to correct him. He quickly learned that you don't disturb the Siberian unless you want to pay for it. My Lab, however, is too soft on him and still requires us to intervene on her behalf when he's being particularly obnoxious. He's got a pretty solid Leave It command for this. If he persists, he's removed.

Since you've got two working breed puppies, you're going to work even harder to make sure they both understand what's expected of them. For now, I'd make sure you intervene. If the Siberian doesn't want to stop pestering, I'd crate him/her and let her cry herself out. Absolutely DO NOT GIVE IN and let him/her out. Siberians are crazy intelligent problem solvers, and when you give them an inch, they take a mile and your shoes, then laugh about it.

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try baby gates...my girls get separated by a baby gate when they have high value toys/treats/bones, but nowadays I've been starting to let them have their bones together, and so far so good, no fighting over them at all
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I've done a combo of what others have already stated, although what worked the best for Rocket was allowing the adult dogs to correct him. He quickly learned that you don't disturb the Siberian unless you want to pay for it. My Lab, however, is too soft on him and still requires us to intervene on her behalf when he's being particularly obnoxious. He's got a pretty solid Leave It command for this. If he persists, he's removed.

Since you've got two working breed puppies, you're going to work even harder to make sure they both understand what's expected of them. For now, I'd make sure you intervene. If the Siberian doesn't want to stop pestering, I'd crate him/her and let her cry herself out. Absolutely DO NOT GIVE IN and let him/her out. Siberians are crazy intelligent problem solvers, and when you give them an inch, they take a mile and your shoes, then laugh about it.

Good luck!
THANK YOU SOOO MUCH!!! Yeah I was a bit of a softy when she started woo wooing me all sad like "maaaaaa leeeett mmmeeee ooooutttttt" and I was like... ok maybe she got my point... NOPE NOT A CHANCE! lol I'm really glad you posted, I think the dynamic between them is very different than ANY other interaction I've seen with them and other pups... and oh yes hands are full!!! lol
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I second the baby gates idea. Separation is safest with high value treats and toys.
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Thanks!!! I appreciate it! and I most definitely will!! They get along otherwise, sleep together and play together, no food issues or anything, just toys/bones. Go figure!

You need to google "littermate syndrome" you need to seperate them, and they need to learn to be alone.

Absolutely excellent article on littermate syndrome

As for the stealing toys, if they were adult dogs I would sit between them, and as soon as Justice starts to get up say "uh-uh" and make her lay down again.
Since they are puppies, I would crate them seperately and give them their own toys until they learn down, stay and leave it.
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Old 12-19-2012, 08:41 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I second the baby gates idea. Separation is safest with high value treats and toys.
That's eventually what I did, until Sacha got her fill and bored of the bone and let Justice out and took up both bones.
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Russell is a 5 year old Andalucian Terrier (like a Jack Russell but larger and more macho, or so they reckon) with attitude and the gaul to think he should be allowed Toby's (2 years old) bones and toys no matter how much Toby kicks his backside for stealing them or however much I tell him off.

The only way I can give them anything and I mean anything is either to stand between them and act as a barrier.
Or to put one in one room with a bone whilst the other is in another and to make sure that if one leaves any of it I take it away before the other can steal it away.

Truth to be told I never have allowed dogs to be in the same room as each other when I give out bones or the like. It is just too damn risky.

Fights can break out in an instant and in my opinion it is better to avoid than try and break up anytime.
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Dogs learn pretty quick when they don't follow rules.
Lol Thanks! I'm beginning to see that...
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Russell is a 5 year old Andalucian Terrier (like a Jack Russell but larger and more macho, or so they reckon) with attitude and the gaul to think he should be allowed Toby's (2 years old) bones and toys no matter how much Toby kicks his backside for stealing them or however much I tell him off.

The only way I can give them anything and I mean anything is either to stand between them and act as a barrier.
Or to put one in one room with a bone whilst the other is in another and to make sure that if one leaves any of it I take it away before the other can steal it away.

Truth to be told I never have allowed dogs to be in the same room as each other when I give out bones or the like. It is just too damn risky.

Fights can break out in an instant and in my opinion it is better to avoid than try and break up anytime.
She started it again last night, and thats basically what I had to do. Sacha had laid underneath me and chewed her bone and I kept my legs in front of her and justice laid down lol nose to my shoe like "that's a cheap trick Sacha, running to mom?" lol but she didn't go after it as long as Sacha laid under me....
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Tried the crates, my husky would just whine and bark until I let them out, also tried separating them in different rooms with a baby gate, still no luck, she would whine and bark about that too.
If you have owned or been around the Husky breed in general, they are like Siamese cats- very, very vocal. Dobies can be vocal too, but not like this breed.

If you are putting them in crates, and letting them out when they start whiing, barking, screaming, chewing the bars, you are only being trained by a puppy to let him out when he says, and not when you say.

Rou went through his horrible stage of hating his crate and screaming like was being murdered. Being as he needed to be crated regardless if I was not home, and still has to be, I slept through this behavior for about a month if not longer until he began to like his crate.

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or toy to play with worked really well in conditioning my boy to liking his "den". When he is tired he just walks right in and goes to sleep. He has a nice pillow in there too to sleep on, making it a desirable spot.

Also using a crate as a "time out" place is a big NO NO regardless of breed. You want them to like the crate and not fear it.

Right now you are training your dog that he has to stay in there, but WILL eventually come out and not be locked up forever! Leaving the door propped open is good.

As for stealing treats, toys, bones, etc. If you can't separate them, just don't give them something that can be stolen. Or you can give them puzzle toys that they need to work at- i.e. freezing a Kong toy with treats/food inside to keep each dog occupy on something other than each others bones?

A lot of helpful information has already been posted.
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You need to google "littermate syndrome" you need to seperate them, and they need to learn to be alone.

Absolutely excellent article on littermate syndrome

As for the stealing toys, if they were adult dogs I would sit between them, and as soon as Justice starts to get up say "uh-uh" and make her lay down again.
Since they are puppies, I would crate them seperately and give them their own toys until they learn down, stay and leave it.
Thanks for the link!

Justice knows leave it and stay and down, its a matter of if she wants to do it or not (normally she does), but when it comes to stealing bones, she doesn't like doing it... lol

Sacha doesn't know those commands yet though, but soon

As of right now, They sleep in the same room, but apart; like one on the bed one on the floor, their bowls are in separate rooms, and they are taken out separately, and when they go out to the stores with us, we split them up on separate leashes one with my husband one with me, they really only play together and they are usually in separate places in the rooms (justice lays on the tile at the door entrance, and Sacha with me on the floor or couch) I don't see any issues of littermate syndrome YET, but I am trying to keep an eye on it and so far the toy stealing is all I've seen which is something Justice has done since day one... It's gotten a lot better too. They don't fight at all except when Sacha gets tired of her stealing her toys/bones.. and then its not really a "fight" its like a scuffle and Sacha usually goes back to her bone, but now since I have been sitting between them or separating them it hasn't happened again.

I didn't really even know about littermate syndrome until I got on here! then started having people send links and looking through it all, and I started separating them as much as I could, aside from when me and dad are sitting there in the room while they are out together.

When we leave to go anywhere, Sacha is in the kitchen behind a baby gate and Justice is doing crate training right now.

I'm going to google it like you said to maybe get some more ideas about avoiding that, most definitely. thank you again!!

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