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Old 12-02-2012, 09:50 PM   #1 (permalink)
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For anyone who actually cares i just wanted to say the pups are doing good and healthy now. Loki being 7 weeks and Jynx being 9 weeks (i think) havent really kepted up with dates been busy. They both have a clean bill of health as of right now. Jynx still hates her kennel when im not home. I guess she will eventually adapt. She is super smart and is learning quickly on house training. Got aways to go with her though as far as introducing her to new things. She did display some food aggression the last couple days which i quickly got under control. She no longer is growling i just have to keep a eye on that so she knows its not okay behavior. (its only with other dogs) I changed up there diet because i thought she looked alittle thin but the vet said she is perfect weight blah. But i switched her to a large breed puppy formula instead of a regular puppy formula and thats when the food aggression occurred i think she likes the new food. Loki goes to my friend in a week. If i wasnt against owning a male i would keep him but she has been waiting patiently and coming over for play time with him to bond.

I was up in northern arkansas the other day and was within 30 minutes of there breeder so i called him and asked to see his remaining puppies (since he has been advertising them, people must have backed out) once again he met me at the gas station with a litter (loki's litter in the back of his truck) 4 puppies in total i believe. They climbed under his toolbox scared and he was grabing them out by there hind legs and dangling them in the air. There skin and bones. They have mucousy blood specs in there poop. probably the worms and coccsidia. The little runt was acting funny and had this huge knot on her head. I was feeling it and he didnt even know so i brought it to his attention. He said the mother had been biting them and probably bit her in the head. I think she had a fractured skull. I wanted so bad to take her home but he wouldnt give her away. So i resisted and left. he said he was meeting other people there to look at pups too. so tomarrow im calling AC again so maybe just maybe they will go out to one of these addresses i got and see her and maybe get her the medical help and the rest of the puppies the help they need.

you can bash me all everyone wants for even considering taken that poor girl but she was in bad shape. But i wasnt about to pay for her and and the probably thousonds of dollars in medical bills like poor halla's story
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For anyone who actually cares i just wanted to say the pups are doing good and healthy now. Loki being 7 weeks and Jynx being 9 weeks (i think) havent really kepted up with dates been busy. They both have a clean bill of health as of right now. Jynx still hates her kennel when im not home. I guess she will eventually adapt. She is super smart and is learning quickly on house training. Got aways to go with her though as far as introducing her to new things. She did display some food aggression the last couple days which i quickly got under control. She no longer is growling i just have to keep a eye on that so she knows its not okay behavior. (its only with other dogs) I changed up there diet because i thought she looked alittle thin but the vet said she is perfect weight blah. But i switched her to a large breed puppy formula instead of a regular puppy formula and thats when the food aggression occurred i think she likes the new food. Loki goes to my friend in a week. If i wasnt against owning a male i would keep him but she has been waiting patiently and coming over for play time with him to bond.

I was up in northern arkansas the other day and was within 30 minutes of there breeder so i called him and asked to see his remaining puppies (since he has been advertising them, people must have backed out) once again he met me at the gas station with a litter (loki's litter in the back of his truck) 4 puppies in total i believe. They climbed under his toolbox scared and he was grabing them out by there hind legs and dangling them in the air. There skin and bones. They have mucousy blood specs in there poop. probably the worms and coccsidia. The little runt was acting funny and had this huge knot on her head. I was feeling it and he didnt even know so i brought it to his attention. He said the mother had been biting them and probably bit her in the head. I think she had a fractured skull. I wanted so bad to take her home but he wouldnt give her away. So i resisted and left. he said he was meeting other people there to look at pups too. so tomarrow im calling AC again so maybe just maybe they will go out to one of these addresses i got and see her and maybe get her the medical help and the rest of the puppies the help they need.

you can bash me all everyone wants for even considering taken that poor girl but she was in bad shape. But i wasnt about to pay for her and and the probably thousonds of dollars in medical bills like poor halla's story
And yet, you JUST said, on another thread, that you still consider paying this ******* as "saving the puppies," and that you would buy from a BYB again.

You reward animal abusers with money.

Then you want sympathy and attention for the plight you got yourself into in the first place.
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Where do you get i want sympathy and attention? I guess i missed that.
I was putting a update for the people who care to see a update. Coco on another thread mentioned also making a compliant against the guy. Maybe if enough people made complaints they would check into it because i know the conditons of those puppies as of right now and i know a animal control officer if he seen them right now would have to do something. Id hope.
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You had the opportunity to set it up with AC.....since you were meeting him and all.......

I'm sorry, you spew garbage.
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it was like 8 at night and didnt even know i was going to call him til i was on my way home nor did i even think about animal control then.
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I don't know how you can spend one minute NOT thinking about Animal Control, but it speaks volumes, as do most of your other posts.
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You should have thought about animal control. It was the correct and logical thing to do. Yet you did what amounted to participating in this animal abuse. Shame on you. You had an opportunity to do the right thing and blew it.
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Ok i blew it because it was 8 at night on a weekend where no one would be open and i have to wait til monday to make another complaint. Ok then. I see you point there.
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Id love for some of you to come to arkansas just for 1 week and see how things dont work the way they do in most states. No one here cares about animals.
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Ill admit things dont shock me much anymore here. I guess the 5yrs ive been here ive just given up with the rest of people. Doesnt mean i dont care. Just simply not shocked anymore. If you want the truth.
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You should have thought about animal control. It was the correct and logical thing to do. Yet you did what amounted to participating in this animal abuse. Shame on you. You had an opportunity to do the right thing and blew it.
Well there's the problem, VZ.
I'll be keeping these puppies in my thoughts.
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Theoretically, you can set up a meeting with him again, this time involving Animal Control. He seems to have no problem showing you puppies that have grave problems, and at this point, probably still views you as a prospective buyer.
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seriously? You went and saw MORE byb puppies? and thought about taking them home and contributing to the abuse? You my friend are a MORON!!!!
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Id love for some of you to come to arkansas just for 1 week and see how things dont work the way they do in most states. No one here cares about animals.
Um, I'm in WV.

I may have you one-upped--at worst, it's about equally bad, here.

Funny, I've never used that as an excuse to participate actively in the culture of animal neglect and abuse .
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seriously? You went and saw MORE byb puppies? and thought about taking them home and contributing to the abuse? You my friend are a MORON!!!!
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I've got you beat, I live in the middle of puppy mill central what with all the Amish farms around. You realize that quite a few places name Lancaster, PA as the WORST place to get a dog? Funny enough I'm getting a rescue, and was considering a breeder in a different state and was willing to drive all the way to just meet them.
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why go and see puppies and put yourself through the heartache of them being in poor conditions and being treated badly and not give animal control a heads-up? you can always call the cops and say an animal is being abused (wherever you were meeting) and they WOULD have come to investigate. This person just keeps digging themselves into a deeper and deeper hole!
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why go and see puppies and put yourself through the heartache of them being in poor conditions and being treated badly and not give animal control a heads-up? you can always call the cops and say an animal is being abused (wherever you were meeting) and they WOULD have come to investigate. This person just keeps digging themselves into a deeper and deeper hole!
I'm not convinced this really happened or the story was more for shock value..... If it really happened, this person sets a new record low for actually going to see this douche bag twice.

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Well to be honest i didnt expect them to be in that bad of shape. Like i said it was a last minute idea on the way back from taking my father up in that area. He saw them as well. Never once did it cross our minds to call the cops and clearly animal control wouldnt be open at 8pm. Its whatever though. My father said he is just a old farm breeder and thats how they do things (he is a old coon hunter) so his views differ too. Yes i wouldnt change the fact i bought these two puppies from him if i had it to do over. So bash me for it. Clearly my views differ from 95% of this forum. I can see how these guy would have ended up if i didnt take them. they would be just like those poor puppies he has now. All i can do is let animal control know the condition of the puppies he has currently since i SAW how bad they are. Beyond that it is out of my control.
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Yeah i like making up wild stories of animal abuse and neglect for i guess the fun of it since i clearly named the breeder and etc...
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So now the question to you, kindafugly, is what are YOU going to do about it?
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Clearly my views differ from 95% of this forum.
Does that tell you anything at ALL??
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