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Salamander · 11-30-2012, 11:52 AM

Remember that awful 80's song "She's A Maniac"?

Well, there ya go...LOL

She looks skinny to me but I probably worry too much.

[oh, who am I kidding? I worry about everything]

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Originally Posted by Salamander

Gosh...I can't take credit for her recovery.

All the financial help and prayers she's received did it...

And she is a little keg of doggie dynamite, that's for sure.

Odin was such a good boy as a pup, always sensible and serious.

She's a relentless little maniac!

Since she's in her 'demon possessed stapler' biting phase, I've been calling her "Weasel" from the Zappa album "Weasels Ripped My Flesh"....

[she doesn't answer to Halla...some dogs pick their own names. Ive had few who simply refused to acknowledge the name I wanted them to have]

Salamander · 11-30-2012, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Dobes&Hounds

If that were my puppy I would take her to an orthopedist. She looks like she is moving the leg outward to avoid bending the stifle joint.
Even though it doesn't hurt her now my biggest concern is that she could get early arthritis in that joint.

I have tons of concerns for her future and that's one of them.

She's scheduled for an x-ray next week so we'll see if anything's ever been broken.

There's only one dog chiropractor I can get hold of and that's only sometimes and she's not that great, especially considering what she charges for what little gets done.

I switched from her to Odin's physical therapist with much better results.

I'm going to have to hunt for a dog orthopedist.

Don't think there's any around here.

:-\

Salamander · 11-30-2012, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dobiewankanobi

I'd say the weirdness to the gait is a compensation for something else going on.

That's my worry, too.

She reminds me of Dobe puppy I raised and trained for my uncle who came to me with rickets back in the mid 70's.

I'm not sure how to get D3 into her because that's not safe and there's not a bit of sunshine here for her.

Salamander · 11-30-2012, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dobes&Hounds

If that were my puppy I would take her to an orthopedist. She looks like she is moving the leg outward to avoid bending the stifle joint.
Even though it doesn't hurt her now my biggest concern is that she could get early arthritis in that joint.

Yay!

I found an orthopedist in Frederick about 50 miles from here.

Not bad considering the only others I could find were clear down in Annapolis.

Thanks!

ladyballplayer · 11-30-2012, 01:09 PM

So Halla and my Diesel and siblings from different litters (same parents, same BYB) ao I always want to follow Halla's progress.

I can say "D", as we call Diesel, has shown none of these characteristics in his legs that Halla is displaying. If the change in diet does not resolve things soon, I would consider an orthopedic visit if at all possible.

Are you planning on showing er and tat is why you are concerned about conformation?

Salamander · 11-30-2012, 01:31 PM

Diesel wasn't broken in pieces and half dead, either.
He'll probably be fine.
The Briarwood dogs are known for longevity so be happy for that...

No, she's not going to be shown.

I just want her little body all fixed up *now* so she has no problems later and lives the best possible life imaginable.

I'm 99% sure this isn't a conformation issue.
I believe it's an injury or symptom of all that she's been through.

I need to fix it to be satisfied that everything that can be done for her will be.

I'm determined to get her as 'back to normal' as possible.

To me, there is no qualitative distinction between a free BYB puppy and the grandest champion dog.

They *all* get treated like winners....

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Originally Posted by ladyballplayer

So Halla and my Diesel and siblings from different litters (same parents, same BYB) ao I always want to follow Halla's progress.

I can say "D", as we call Diesel, has shown none of these characteristics in his legs that Halla is displaying. If the change in diet does not resolve things soon, I would consider an orthopedic visit if at all possible.

Are you planning on showing er and tat is why you are concerned about conformation?

Dobiewankanobi · 11-30-2012, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Salamander

That's my worry, too.

She reminds me of Dobe puppy I raised and trained for my uncle who came to me with rickets back in the mid 70's.

I'm not sure how to get D3 into her because that's not safe and there's not a bit of sunshine here for her.

Are any of these near you?
Kerianne Hanlin DVM Elkton MD 410-398-8100 North East Animal Hospital, Elkton, Maryland
Susan Mende DVM Lothian MD 410-741-1473 wolfcreekequine@verizon.net
Malinda Venegas DC Sykesville MD 410-988-2122 MAL919@hotmail.com

Found them on the ACVA website. www.acvadoctors.com

ladyballplayer · 11-30-2012, 02:19 PM

Keep us posted on this little girl. "D" and I have a special interest in her

Salamander · 11-30-2012, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dobiewankanobi

Are any of these near you?
Kerianne Hanlin DVM Elkton MD 410-398-8100 North East Animal Hospital, Elkton, Maryland
Susan Mende DVM Lothian MD 410-741-1473 wolfcreekequine@verizon.net
Malinda Venegas DC Sykesville MD 410-988-2122 MAL919@hotmail.com

Found them on the ACVA website. www.acvadoctors.com

The closest is a good 2 hours away.

[everything decent is always far away from me]

Salamander · 11-30-2012, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ladyballplayer

Keep us posted on this little girl. "D" and I have a special interest in her

Sure will...

kindafugly · 12-01-2012, 10:13 AM

Video screams Luxating patellas to me. If you could get her to sit still and you take her knee and move the joint in a normal walk position and see if you fee any poping or looseness or tenderness. That would give you a idea if its a luxating patella and the joint isnt siting right. A simple x ray would confirm or rule it out. if it confirms it a regular vet would be able to tell you what degree it is.

Ive seen dogs with luxating patellas.

Salamander · 12-01-2012, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by kindafugly

Video screams Luxating patellas to me. If you could get her to sit still and you take her knee and move the joint in a normal walk position and see if you fee any poping or looseness or tenderness. That would give you a idea if its a luxating patella and the joint isnt siting right. A simple x ray would confirm or rule it out. if it confirms it a regular vet would be able to tell you what degree it is.

Ive seen dogs with luxating patellas.

I'll have the vet do that.

That little hellcat won't sit still for me.

She thinks I've been put on this earth strictly for her chewing pleasure.

The couple of times I've successfully tried to manipulate it, I'm not feeling any 'shelf sign' at all and it hasn't felt abnormal to my hands but I'm not a vet.

My mom's Chow had obvious LP and I could feel that with winter gloves on, figuratively speaking.

I have noticed that it generally shows up after she's been running around too much.

kindafugly · 12-01-2012, 10:39 PM

just let us know what your vet says. To me it looks like a low grade LP. I saw a dog once with such bad LP both of her knees bowed out and made her legs look deformed. As she grew it got better and didnt require surgery

Salamander · 12-02-2012, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by kindafugly

just let us know what your vet says. To me it looks like a low grade LP. I saw a dog once with such bad LP both of her knees bowed out and made her legs look deformed. As she grew it got better and didnt require surgery

That's the most hopeful thing I've heard in a long time....

She actually seemed a little better yesterday.

We're letting her exercise to build up her leg strength and it seems to be working.

Maybe the food change is helping, too.