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Old 11-21-2012, 09:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Crate training and house breaking.

My house is completely puppy proofed. Times like this im glad our house is all hardwood floor but for the area rugs i pulled up having 2 puppies for the moment.

Ive been working with Jynxie but it doesnt seem to be taking affect. Ive worked with her from day 1 and im at home all day basicly unless i go shopping or like tomarrow i wont be home due to family get together for the holiday. But ill take her out when she starts the sniffing circling like shes going to sqaut and she will go pee but not poop. I leave her out for awhile and all she wants to do is play and i have to fight to get her back in the house and sometimes have to manually retrieve her because she conviently goes deaf. She comes back in and 2 minutes later she sqauts and pees again after just going outside. I yell at her NO outside and take her back outside and she thinks its playtime again.

I need to figure a way to get her to figure out Outside is potty time not play time and inside is not where you potty. When i crate her when i leave (for her own safety) She barks from the time i leave until i return which i can hear her barking he head off from outside the house. Id swear someone was murdering her. She also poops in her crate even if im gone for a hour.
shes 7 almost 8 weeks now i believe. I know shes to young to get the idea this fast but whats a good ideal to get her to adjust easier to the crate? What way is the best for dobies to learn to be housebroke as well?

Cant wait til she is older get past all these puppy issues. The only downfall to owning a cute puppy lol
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First and most important thing: she is seven weeks old. She is not even physically capable of being house broken at this age. She should not even be away from her breeder. I know the situation that landed her in your care, but believe me when I say that expecting anything whatsoever from her at this age is expecting way too much. If your other pup is catching on (I think I remember one being about two weeks older, but can't recall which is which), I would chalk that up to age or luck.

That said...

1. Don't wait for her to start sniffing. Take her out after every time she eats, drinks, plays, or wakes up, plus every 20-30 minutes, or obviously if she seems about to go (sniffing, etc.).

2. What I have always done is for the first few weeks, playing is indoors only. They will still want to run around and engage with you outside, but don't do it. Just wait her out. If you're outside for an hour, you're outside for an hour. When she goes, praise, reward, and immediately inside. Personally, I don't even wait for them to pee if they've only pooped or vice versa for a couple weeks, because I've found it effective to make the connection for them that going potty = going back inside, especially in the winter. I've found that it clicks a little sooner if going inside immediately follows going potty. If she still needs to do one or the other, well...you'll be out again within 15 minutes, anyway. When she goes, squat down so that she will run to you, pets and praise, pick her up and inside.

3. A 7 week old pooping in her crate is really not surprising, but how big is her crate? If it's so big that she feels like she can poop and easily get away from it, it's more likely to happen. A puppy being crate trained should have just enough room to be comfortable in there. If this is an issue, check out crate dividers - very handy.

4. As for making her comfortable in there - Crate Training has some good information about crate games and crate training. At 7 weeks, though, again...normal. Most of it is simply a matter of patience.

5. Give her some time. It is really, really unreasonable to expect any puppy to even approach house-broken before 10-12 weeks, and there are many, many dogs still working on it at 16 or so. 7 weeks is way, way too soon to have any expectations. I don't give these pointers in the spirit of "this might help you fix your problem," because right now (as far as house-breaking goes, anyway...) there is not a problem. I give these pointers only in the "general guidelines for how to do it" sense. Good luck.
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I dont know i guess i didnt clarify the post or something. I said i know she is to young being 7 weeks. i was simply just asking what were the best methods to help ease her into the crate idea and what was the easiest way to housebreak a dobie. Im just working with the normal method ive always used and i didnt know if there was a easier way for a dobie to catch on then what im doing.
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I got my pup at 7 weeks also and she learned crate training within the first week. There is nothing wrong with getting your pup at 7 weeks! what I did with my pup is put her in the crate and about every hour I took her out, I praised her and gave her a treat when she went potty. I would than play outside with her for about 30-45 minutes if she went potty again within that time I would again praise and give her a treat. I would take her back inside to her crate and do it all over again. When she ate I would take her outside after she was done and just play with her and wait for her to go potty (usually about 20-30 minutes after she ate) she never went potty in her crate but I had the one with a divider so I only gave her enough room to lay down in it as dogs usually won't mess where they sleep. Now she is 6 months and completely crate trained and only goes potty outdoors. She will go straight to the door in the morning to go potty. Good luck!!


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There is nothing wrong with getting your pup at 7 weeks!
7 weeks is too early.
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I agree with all the points made by Brianne29 who has given you some great advice. (Except my opinion is that pups can be house trained by 7 weeks in that they know they need to go outside, some breeders to house train their puppies before they go to homes, and my boy was house trained by 8 weeks. But I agree its unreasonable to expect a 7 week old to know this quickly without a lot of training and its unreasonable to expect them to hold it)

I really wouldnt yell at a puppy for going to the toilet inside, infact I wouldnt yell at a puppy for not understanding any command, I would only ever reprimand (a calm, firm AH-AH from me) a dog who knows a command and purposely disobeys it. Its not very fair to be told off for something he doesnt understand! He might want to end up hiding it if you tell him off.

I used the same method Brianne29 stated; take the pup outside every 20 minutes or so or if you see any signs of needing the toilet, pick him straight up and run him outside. I would even pick my boy up half way through peeing and plonk him down on the grass and praise him for doing the last second on the grass! We also give the act of going to the toilet a word ('toilet') which I now use a command when I want my dogs to empty (for example, before going in a car ride or going into the vets)

Ive never had two puppies at one time, but Ive read having two puppies at the same time can keep them acting younger and more babyish for longer.
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...There is nothing wrong with getting your pup at 7 weeks!...
It is actually illegal in many states to sell puppies prior to eight weeks. These laws were passed for the welfare of the puppies.
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There is something wrong with getting a puppy at 7 weeks besides it being illegal in many states.

A puppy needs that time with its littermates.

Dumping puppies prior to 8 weeks is something bybs do.
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I don't know i guess i didnt clarify the post or something. I said i know she is to young being 7 weeks. i was simply just asking what were the best methods to help ease her into the crate idea and what was the easiest way to housebreak a dobie. Im just working with the normal method ive always used and i didnt know if there was a easier way for a dobie to catch on then what im doing.
I followed this
Leerburg | How To Housebreak A Puppy or Older Dog

Dog is either crated, or in x-pen unless you are watching 100%
NEVER free roaming. Never even given the CHANCE to have an accident.

Do not let her wander around outside to potty. Take her out on a leash, and give her her queue word "Potty", if she goes, praise.
If not take her back inside, back in the crate. Don't let her wander around for a half hour. If you know she needs to go, but she is being stubborn, wait a few minutes, and then take her out again. Repeat, until she
goes.

Get her on a feeding schedule. She will need to go out right after to 30 minutes after eating. My dog always poops right after eating.

This method was incredibly easy for my pup. He learned he only gets let out of his crate/x-pen if he is sitting calm. not jumping all over the place and crazy really fast.
I didn't sleep for about a week due to his screaming in the crate at night, but after that he was perfect with his crate.
He learned outside on leash = potty and straight back inside and you get lots of treats.
He learned to ring a bell to go out, too fast, the problem was he starting ringing the bell every time he wanted something

People have problems when they are not consistent and give in. DO NOT GIVE IN. They learn TOO FAST and its harder to fix once they learn they get what they want.
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There is something wrong with getting a puppy at 7 weeks besides it being illegal in many states.

A puppy needs that time with its littermates.

Dumping puppies prior to 8 weeks is something bybs do.

Where I'm from it is perfectly legal to get a pup at 7 weeks! You're able to get them at 5 weeks old in AZ! Don't judge!
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Where I'm from it is perfectly legal to get a pup at 7 weeks! You're able to get them at 5 weeks old in AZ! Don't judge!
Where are you from? That is a terrible, terrible idea. Whoever makes the laws where you live obviously don't care about the well-being of puppies one bit...
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44-1799.04. Animal care requirements; violation; classification
A. A pet dealer shall do the following:
1. Maintain facilities in which cats or dogs are housed in a sanitary condition.
2. Provide cats or dogs with potable water and adequate nutrition.
3. Provide adequate space that is appropriate to the age, size, weight, species and breed of cat or dog. For the purposes of this paragraph, "adequate space" means sufficient space for the cat or dog to experience normal body movements without having to make contact with the sides or top of the enclosure, including the ability to stand up, sit down, turn about freely and relax in a natural position.
4. If cats or dogs are housed on wire flooring, provide a resting board, a floormat or another similar device that is maintained in a sanitary condition and that allows the cat or dog to rest off of the wire flooring.
5. If a cat or dog is afflicted with a contagious disease, handle the cat or dog in a manner that is required by section 44-1799.01, subsection B.
6. Promptly provide appropriate veterinary care when it is necessary.
B. A pet dealer shall not offer for sale a cat or dog that is less than eight weeks old.
C. A pet dealer who violates subsection A of this section is guilty of a class 1 misdemeanor.
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It is, in fact, not perfectly legal in AZ, but rather a misdemeanor.
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First and most important thing: she is seven weeks old. She is not even physically capable of being house broken at this age. She should not even be away from her breeder. I know the situation that landed her in your care, but believe me when I say that expecting anything whatsoever from her at this age is expecting way too much. If your other pup is catching on (I think I remember one being about two weeks older, but can't recall which is which), I would chalk that up to age or luck.

That said...

1. Don't wait for her to start sniffing. Take her out after every time she eats, drinks, plays, or wakes up, plus every 20-30 minutes, or obviously if she seems about to go (sniffing, etc.).
With my boy we would set a timer. When the timer went off the dog went outside and stayed outside until he pottied, then we'd come inside and restart the timer. Regardless of where the timer was at we'd also always go outside right after coming out of the crate and after eating.

2. What I have always done is for the first few weeks, playing is indoors only. They will still want to run around and engage with you outside, but don't do it. Just wait her out. If you're outside for an hour, you're outside for an hour. When she goes, praise, reward, and immediately inside. Personally, I don't even wait for them to pee if they've only pooped or vice versa for a couple weeks, because I've found it effective to make the connection for them that going potty = going back inside, especially in the winter. I've found that it clicks a little sooner if going inside immediately follows going potty. If she still needs to do one or the other, well...you'll be out again within 15 minutes, anyway. When she goes, squat down so that she will run to you, pets and praise, pick her up and inside.
WHat I did is didn't allow ANY play outside until my dog did his business. I'd sit and wait and be the most boring person ever and then, once he pee'd/poo'd/both I would praise him and tell him that he was good and then we'd play. Now, when he runs outside the first thing he does is potty and then he runs around like a maniac.

3. A 7 week old pooping in her crate is really not surprising, but how big is her crate? If it's so big that she feels like she can poop and easily get away from it, it's more likely to happen. A puppy being crate trained should have just enough room to be comfortable in there. If this is an issue, check out crate dividers - very handy.
I agree.

4. As for making her comfortable in there - Crate Training has some good information about crate games and crate training. At 7 weeks, though, again...normal. Most of it is simply a matter of patience.

5. Give her some time. It is really, really unreasonable to expect any puppy to even approach house-broken before 10-12 weeks, and there are many, many dogs still working on it at 16 or so. 7 weeks is way, way too soon to have any expectations. I don't give these pointers in the spirit of "this might help you fix your problem," because right now (as far as house-breaking goes, anyway...) there is not a problem. I give these pointers only in the "general guidelines for how to do it" sense. Good luck.
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If you take them out on about a 6 ft leash it helps keep them focused tell them go potty ,hurry up or what ever words you want to use just use the same words each time. Stand in one spot let them go all around you till they find the spot then Praise like it is the greatest thing you ever saw. If they do not go in about 20 minutes go back in and crate them or tie them to you them go back out in about 30 minutes.pups need to go out after naps,playing, eating & drinking 1st thing in the morning last thing at night depending on the age of the pup you may need to take them out at night too. Always use a pet urine enzyme to clean up all traces of urine or feces you can use a black light to find all traces. It takes about 3-6 months of contestant training to house break a pup the more accidents they have the longer it takes. Hang a bell on the door you go out you ring it until the pup gets the idea how to ring it yes sometimes they ring it to go look at a squirrel but its a phase they go though you just have to go though it with them. Do not forget to praise each time they go to reinforce the potty training. If you are consistent you will also have a pup/dog that will go potty on command comes in handy when it rains,snow, is icy, on a trip at night . People will think you are a amazing trainer too. Good Luck with your new baby.
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Where I'm from it is perfectly legal to get a pup at 7 weeks! You're able to get them at 5 weeks old in AZ! Don't judge!
WTH does "judging" have to do with it?

It's common knowledge--and common sense--that puppies are better off with their siblings until eight weeks of age.

As was already pointed out to you--you are also totally incorrect that it is legal to sell puppies under eight weeks old, in your state. That law was put in place for the well-being of the puppies.

Too bad idiots and a-holes break the law.
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First off you need to stop misinforming people! As I told you in a previous post those are only PROPOSED changes and in fact NOT enforceable! Second, Just because it says 2011 doesn't mean it is enforceable! 2011 is when it was suppose to be heard in front of our legislative government but wasn't. Third if it was in fact illegal than why do our pet stores selling pups at 6-7 weeks old? Why aren't all the other dog breeders going to jail for it? Many people in AZ get their pets at 6+ weeks old. I'm not saying its right but misinforming people is horrible!

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WTH does "judging" have to do with it?

It's common knowledge--and common sense--that puppies are better off with their siblings until eight weeks of age.

As was already pointed out to you--you are also totally incorrect that it is legal to sell puppies under eight weeks old, in your state. That law was put in place for the well-being of the puppies.

Too bad idiots and a-holes break the law.
Yeah it too bad that idiots and a-holes are also completely misinformed and believe things that are false! If it were in fact illegal than why does our law enforcement do nothing? Why aren't people being charged with this so called misdomeanor?
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Also you should do a search on what AZ considers a "pet dealer"

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“Pet Dealer” - a person who owns a pet store
Less than 8 weeks old
Offer for sale

Breeders aren't considered "pet dealers"!!!!!!! Just an FYI for ya
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Also you should do a search on what AZ considers a "pet dealer"

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Breeders aren't considered "pet dealers"!!!!!!! Just an FYI for ya
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44-1799. Definitions
In this chapter, unless the context otherwise requires:
1. "Clinically ill" means an illness that is apparent to a veterinarian based on the veterinarian's observation, examination or testing of an animal or on a review of the animal's medical records.
2. "Nonelective surgical procedure" means a surgical procedure that is necessary according to commonly accepted standards of veterinary medicine to preserve or restore the health of the cat or dog, to prevent the animal from experiencing pain or discomfort or to correct a condition that would interfere with the cat's or dog's ability to walk, run or jump or to otherwise function in a normal manner.
3. "Pet dealer" means a person who owns a pet store.
4. "Pet store" means a commercial establishment that engages in a for-profit business of selling at retail cats, dogs or other animals, but does not include commercial livestock operations and commercial livestock auction markets. Pet store does not mean a publicly operated pound or a private, charitable not-for-profit humane society or any animal adoption activity that a pound or humane society conducts off site at any pet store or other commercial enterprise.
5. "Purchaser" means a person who purchases any cat or dog without intent to resell.



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3. "Pet dealer" means a person who owns a pet store.
4. "Pet store" means a commercial establishment that engages in a for-profit business of selling at retail cats, dogs or other animals, but does not include commercial livestock operations and commercial livestock auction markets. Pet store does not mean a publicly operated pound or a private, charitable not-for-profit humane society or any animal adoption activity that a pound or humane society conducts off site at any pet store or other commercial enterprise.
5. "Purchaser" means a person who purchases any cat or dog without intent to resell.

Again you're an idiot!!!! Where does it say BREEDER?
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3. "Pet dealer" means a person who owns a pet store.
4. "Pet store" means a commercial establishment that engages in a for-profit business of selling at retail cats, dogs or other animals, but does not include commercial livestock operations and commercial livestock auction markets. Pet store does not mean a publicly operated pound or a private, charitable not-for-profit humane society or any animal adoption activity that a pound or humane society conducts off site at any pet store or other commercial enterprise.
5. "Purchaser" means a person who purchases any cat or dog without intent to resell.

Again you're an idiot!!!! Where does it say BREEDER?
Duh !!

An establishment that sells dogs for profit.
It doesn't have to specify.



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Duh !!

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Haha I already proved everything in the other post! Check out cropping ears in LA! I'm sorry but in the USA it is specific I know not in the UK but you seem to know laws of ARIZONA, USA while you live in the UK..... My bad!!!!
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Haha I already proved everything in the other post! Check out cropping ears in LA! I'm sorry but in the USA it is specific I know not in the UK but you seem to know laws of ARIZONA, USA while you live in the UK..... My bad!!!!
Actually I don't agree that you have proven anything.

We have both read the clauses and interpret them in different ways.

For me the fact that they don't mention breeders in the omissions list, ( and fail to categorise them or single them out)
I then interpret then it must include breeders as a commercial outlet.

You interpret the fact that breeders aren't mentioned at all, that it cant or doesn't include them.

You have given me any facts to proof otherwise

Where we live has nothing to do with anything.


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