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Old 11-16-2012, 01:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Housebreaking?

Hi all!

I'm new to this site and finding it so helpful! All your pics are beautiful!

I have a 14 week old male. I have had him since he was 8 weeks old.

How long roughly till they get the idea of going outside to the toilet?

I am taking Ozzie out every times he eats, wakes, plays and every 15-20 mins inbetween. He will pee in the house quite the fellow and doesnt seem to be getting the jist of it at all. He gets so much praise for going outside and a stern 'No' when indoors.

The only reason I ask is I tried to enroll him on an obedience class and the lady running them was surprised he was not housebroken already and said this was the easiest part!

I have a 16 month old weimaraner bitch and with her it did take around 10 weeks but the penny seemed to drop overnight!

How long on average have your dobes taken? Are males generally harder to train? Any advice greatly appreciated!
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Old 11-16-2012, 02:27 PM   #2 (permalink)
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My male was solid on potty training by about 11-12 weeks. It seems like you're doing things right - are you crate training? That can be a huge help.
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Old 11-16-2012, 03:25 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Hi Brianne!

Yeah I'm crate training as my Weim is crated during the night for the safety of our home!

He has pooped and peed in his crate a few times but not for over a week now. I can be standing outside for twenty mins waiting for him to poo then as soon as we're in the car he'll go ( much to my weims utter disgust!)

I thought he may be quite quick on the uptake with watching my other dog go outside.

I'll get there eventually I guess!
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I think what could really help is if, instead of just saying no as he pees in the house, say no no no while you carry him outside (not in a really harsh voice, just a disapproving one), and then immediately change the no to a YES! and perhaps a happy dance when he pees outside. This way he not only knows that peeing inside is wrong, but he also knows that peeing outside is right!

Yes, most pups are good to go around 12 weeks.
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Old 11-16-2012, 04:26 PM   #5 (permalink)
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We used the "outside outside outside outside outside" technique. He peed inside, I repeated it a few times and took him out. When he went anywhere near the door, I asked "outside?" and he went outside. When I thought he had to pee I'd take him to the door and say "outside" then take him out.

Don't be too discouraged, sometimes you think "he just doesn't get it" and then one day, it clicks... "OOOHHH I pee OUTside!" Honestly, it was like night and day for us.
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Old 11-16-2012, 06:09 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Thanks for all your advice! I'll give it all a go. Funnily enough though tonight he started whining in his crate so I went to let him out, he bolted right out the door and did 2 pees!! Yay!! But..... I waited and waited for him to poo as it'd been about an hour since his last feed. He wandered about for the best part of ten mins then ran back to the door. 2 minutes later, pooped on the kitchen floor but when he saw me he ran behind the couch so kinda thinking perhaps the pennies dropping?!!? Please let this be it!!
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Old 11-17-2012, 12:30 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Well, you're puppy shouldn't actually be afraid to poop. That isn't the point in potty training. Rather, you're puppy should want to poop outside because when he does he gets praise, treats, dancing, etc. and the whole world's all about him for a minute. I hope you haven't been scolding him for pooping inside, or else he'll never poop around you. Not even outside.
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Old 11-17-2012, 12:53 PM   #8 (permalink)
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No, no not at all. I know this can be the case. When he goes inside I take right out although he's clearly finished. I think he knew he shouldn't of. When outside when he's done he comes running over and gets praise like he's all pleased with himself. No accidents today!
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Yayy! Once you get through one whole day without accidents it gets easier. It's as if then you know something's beginning to sink in that tiny skull.
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I don't think that it's all that unusual for a pup to still be working on it at 14-16 weeks, and it sounds like you're doing things right. It'll happen for you soon!
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Old 11-17-2012, 06:19 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Thanks! Definitely had a better day with Ozzie! It gets disheartening when I hear of others who cracked it within days or have never had an accident indoors! I think where am I going wrong! Just frustrating I guess but we'll get there. He is such a little darling! Wasn't particularly interested in us humans at first, just my wim but is now so excited to see me and very affectionate! Learnt sit, come, down all within hours! At meal times he would jump up at the counter top when I was preparing their meals and my wim would knock him down as if to say ' don't do that just sit and wait' ! So now he sits and waits patiently! Such a joy! Kinda getting sidetracked off the subject now! Thanks for all your help!
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Sounds like you are doing the right things with taking him out often enough (every 1/2 hour or so), and after eating, sleeping, playing, etc.

However if he is peeing in the house, he must be out of sight for long enough to do that. Keep him confined in the same room with you, either on a long lead or using baby gates. Never let him out of your sight. Puppies will notoriously sneak into another room for what seems like a split second to eliminate. If you can't watch him for whatever reason, put him in the crate.

The key is watching him every minute so you can watch for subtle signs of him looking for a spot to go, or catching him as he goes and then redirecting him outside.

There's a saying that if the pup is allowed to go in the house, its your fault - not theirs - for failing to watch them close enough. Dobermans are very smart and if you are consistent and put in the time and effort, he should be catching on quickly
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Yeah, I would pick him up and run outside while saying "outside, outside, outside..." and then I said "PEE PEE" really happy and high pitched as he did it, outside, and said "YES! PEE PEE!" and acted all silly... his tail would wag like crazy and we played after, then went back in.

It's great now, Riley will actually go "pee pee" on command. If we were outside, and about to go in, but I didn't see him pee first, I would say "Riley, go pee pee!" and point to the yard, and he'd run over, pee while staring at me, then run back over to come indoors, lol, it's so great! He also stands near the door when he needs to go out, as well.

Though I have to admit, I don't really give him any chances to make mistakes. I know how long he can hold it. And I have a sort of schedule for what times I let him out now. He knows the drill, and we haven't had any accidents since he was 12-14 weeks old. Last accident was in his kennel and it was my fault. Never happened again.
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I think you're doing everything right too. Dobies house train quick, but yet, each one is an individual. Some take a little longer before than can control it and/or learn to tell you. I've been training my Dobergirl (18 weeks) just like you, and she would still have occasional accidents (only pee) especially when she was playing. It was only within the last week or two that she has stopped. To make her needs even more noticeable, I hung two cat toys with bells from the door, and jingled them before I took her out each time, but I didn't need to do it more than once! She got the idea immediately!! Of course she will ring the bell when she wants to chase the feral cats outside, but at least I know she wants to go out, and can decide for myself if she really had to go or not...

I think your pup will do just fine. It's right around the time it'll start "turning the corner" with its housebreaking. My other Dobe didn't train until 4 months either. That's still great! My male Bichon didn't reliably house train until he was almost a year old!!


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