kindafugly

I still find myself struggling with name idea for these two puppies. They cant remain nameless forever.... LOL

Im looking for unique elegant names what can have a cute nick name.
For a boy fawn pup and a red female pup.

I was thinking maybe Sasha or Ruby for the red girl but then again i cant think of any cute nick names for those name so i scratched that off the list and back to point blank again. LOL

kindafugly

Maybe Thor for the male? ugh naming is SO hard

RedFawnRising

How about Ill Eagle for the four-week-old boy, and Grace (as in, ending up just like her Mama, but for the Grace of the spay-gods) for the girl?

Did anyone ever publicly name this POS greeder you purchased from?

I know he has, like, at least five more litters to sell, would really be the responsible citizenship thing, to warn others off from him.

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eternal_dream

I know I'm naming my little girl Deja. Like Deja Vu. But you can't really shorten that much more.

I always thought Maximus "Max" was cute for a male dobie. However I'm going to be honest, if we ended up with a boy we were going to name him Wego, from the beer ad "Here We Go". I think it's cute even if it did come from an ad.

There is Junebug or Ladybug for the female. Shortened to June / Lady, or Bug.

kindafugly

You know red fawn, I think ive been very nice as to answering everyones questions. In private message and on forums. Just because id rather not bash people publicly doesnt mean you have to be so rude and ignorant.

I can glady call the guy up and ask for my money back and return the puppies so he can in return sell them for more. Everyone almost makes me feel like im not even fit to have these puppies and they were better off where they came from.

I did the right thing for these puppies and i can sleep good at night knowing they are being taken care of like they should. My friend reccomended me to this board and im not quite sure why. I think ill glady just take my leave from here so i dont have to disgust anyone anymore.

monicaei

You have gotten very good advice from some of the most knowledgeable and expierenced memebers on this forum in an effort to ensure the very young puppies actually survive. You should be extremely happy your friend directed you here.

You made a very poor choice by purchasing these puppies. I'd just sit back and take it all in at this point. The criticism you are getting is hardly undeserved. Stay, learn, and don't pitch a fit.

kindafugly

Im sorry i wont take it any longer, This thread was about name ideas. If im constantly going to be bashed from here on out on every thread in regards to these puppies theres no point of being here. What is done is done and if i had it to do over again would i not buy them. No i still would have taken them. It would take someone with no heart to be in that situation and see these guys and walk away knowing where they were going back to and ending up. Im sorry this does not fit everyone elses standards. There wont be a day i wont try to assist a animal in need if i have the means to help and make his or her lifes better. So i will never regret the decisions i make towards animals.

And $200 i really dont consider that giving the breeder that much money for both of the puppies.

monicaei

The people you are insinuating have "no heart" are the ones in the trenches of rescue. Might wanna think on that for a few minutes and wonder WHY you are getting the responses you are.

You aren't seeing the forest through the trees, though. The adult dogs, your puppies dams and sire, are still in that situation. every time that greeder is rewarded by selling puppies it ensures that situation will continue.

2 puppies found a good home. What about all the rest? How many litters are we talking? 2 litters 2 weeks apart makes me guess quite a few

kindafugly

What do i do about the rest? If they wont sell the adults you cant steal them. Like i said i am going to contact the countys animal control tomarrow to have them check into the situation.

But truth be told this goes on everywhere. If he is properly caring for his dogs and breeding them in humane conditions nothing can be done anyways. Puppymills are USDA liceanced and allowed the breed hundereds of puppies and sell them as long as they meet the required care for the mother and puppies. So besides have AC check into the situation and if all checks out nothing more can be done.

Like i said previously i fostered for a rescue many years ago the things ive seen in that time span and no one can do anything about it other then be thankful you made a difference in those dogs lifes you have made better. If i didnt take those two pups someone else would have for more money and probably ending up breeding them. Theres so many things we can say might have happened or will happened.

Im not trying to be a ass or hard to deal with. Im just asking besides contacting animal control and if they cant do nothing what more can someone do? This happens alot around here and all to often.

Coco Loco

I think you should stay and try to learn as much as you can about this wonderful breed. People on here do not like bybs for good reason. They are disgusting, worthless creatures who do not care where their dogs end up or if they live or die. Ask me how I know....I too made the mistake of going to a byb before I knew better.

My words of advice for what they are worth....stick around, absorb as much as you can, thicken your skin and don't make it seem like you are defending the byb.

Now I always have trouble picking names for pets or kids. You need a good name you will always like. I like Ruby. I think there are lots of nicknames for that. I have always liked the name Rocco for males.

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VZ-Doberman

Would contacting the akc about underage puppies being sold do any good?

monicaei

Pfft. I doubt it. Those guys don't do anything. Now, contacting the local authorities since Kf acknowledges that she knows it's illegal in her area MIGHT (or might not).

Coco Loco

Please do call animal control. It's better to try to do something than to do nothing.

I don't think he is properly caring for his dogs in a humane fashion if he is letting pups go at 4 or 6 weeks old.

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VZ-Doberman

Kindafugly, what people here will tell you is that any money given to a byb like this is incentive to keep them breeding. If they make no money, they won't keep breeding because for them, it's all about the money. If the money dries up the dogs hopefully will be given to a shelter or rescue.

DT has so many people come here and say they "rescued" a puppy when in fact they merely rewarded and encouraged more breedings from the byb.

Stay and learn. You will be glad you did.

kindafugly

Well im not defending the guys breeding practices. I just and starting to feel attacked as if im the one who is mistreating these puppies. I have the biggest heart towards animals. The things ive seen in the few years helping the rescue.

I could go on and on with horror stories. This guy surrendered his Golden Retriever saying he was going to put him to sleep because he had lymes diease and he was treated but the dog is no good anymore. How can someone have a dog for 6yrs and want to put there dog to sleep after he was treated for lymes saying he isnt any good anymore.

Or a Dogo agentino i fostered and treated for generalized demodex. 90% hair loss, Secondary skin infections. He was 3yrs. He was going to be put down. He has to be treated for the rest of his life. When he was surrendered the breeder gave all his papers that he was imported from argentina with the best bloodlines. But he was no good because he had health problems.

The time that sticks out the most was i was asked to foster a mother with puppies that someone was surrendering. They never showed. a week and a half later they called back saying they went on vacation there ready to give up the dogs now. turns out they left on a mini vacation and left the dogs with a bowl and food and water with no one caring for them and were skin and bones by the time they got them.

Or the time i had to pick up puppy mill puppies USDA liceanced that were deemed not sellable. Poor puppy had a severe inguinual hernia. Bowels under the skin. When i dropped her at the vet for the surgery to save her life they had told me another week or two the hernia opening would have tightened up and cut off blood flow to the bowels and caused her to die.

this is just a few of the things ive seen...

kindafugly

And actually the puppy isnt 4 weeks old. Looking at the paperwork he is actually only 3 weeks. So he is being bottled fed along with some canned mixed with milk replacer. He is the sweetest guy ever and had adopted me as his mother.

and to the person who said about AKC. There not registered with AKC. Its CKC and ICA which ive never heard of.

monicaei

Then I wish you would have known better

But it is what it is, stay and learn. Welcome to DT

Coco Loco

Omg it's getting worse by the minute. You need to at least call on this pos letting a 3 week baby go from their mother. This is nuts. That boy needs a strong name to help him in his journey to live. If you don't want to call I will call for you just give me the details please.

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kindafugly

Yeah i found that out this morning when i was looking over there registration papers. He was born 10/16. If i knew he was only 3 weeks old i would have told him keep him til he is atleast 6 weeks and then id come back. I figured at 4 weeks i could bottle feed and get him out of the cold and start weaning at 5 weeks.

kindafugly

And i will call and let AC know in the morning. I found out alot of things are closed down today for veterns day but i thought that was yesterday? But as in my previous post he has sold his puppies at 2 weeks old he told me. He just isnt responsible for what happens after they leave. He made that very clear.

monicaei

3 weeks??? Update your other thread so the breeders helping you before can give additional advice.

WTH???

Coco Loco

I don't think AC closes on holidays. I know in Canada it doesn't. Still think he's a humane, caring guy letting pups go at 2 or 3 weeks old. He makes me sick.

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monicaei

I'm going hug my dogs and try to unread this

kindafugly

I will update it, Im having them checked by the vet in the morning as well. See what kinda parasites are in there cause im sure there in there. I already gave them a mild wormer my vet gave me 2 months ago. Its fine to use on puppies 2 pounds or more being 3 weeks plus.

I think im going to name the little guy Thor. I hate them being just nameless puppies.

But thanks for everyone being more understanding. I just hate feelings like im the one who are doing wrong when im not. Ive been doing alot of online research on raising dobies and reading topics on this forum.

monicaei

actually, I can only speak for myself but I'm feeling LESS understanding by each new post.

But I care about the welfare of Thor and unnamed female, so I'm trying hard to keep it to myself. If this is all true you NEED to be here (more than I NEED to tee off about all of this)