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Old 11-10-2012, 04:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Bottle feeding and Socialization of young puppies

Ok i got two puppies. Ones 4 weeks & the other being 6 weeks. Im of course bottle feeding. Now my concern this is a working breed and needs alot of socialization which they are lacking from not being with there mother til 8+ weeks.

Does anyone have any advice and good reading for proper socialization of these breed. Anything greatly appreciated.
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Old 11-10-2012, 04:14 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Thick skin. Remember that. Good luck. Are they both fawns?
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Ok i got two puppies. Ones 4 weeks & the other being 6 weeks. Im of course bottle feeding. Now my concern this is a working breed and needs alot of socialization which they are lacking from not being with there mother til 8+ weeks.

Does anyone have any advice and good reading for proper socialization of these breed. Anything greatly appreciated.
In the interest of helping the puppies, I'm ignoring why you have them at such a young age, and 2 of them to boot..... my tongue is bleeding right now!

They do not need to be bottle fed at this age. By 4 weeks, they are ready to be weaned to a meal that has a mushy consistency. Buy a good quality puppy kibble (not at the grocery store - find a good feed store) - soak some in water for at least 15 minutes - add some milk replacer for puppies and either mush it by hand or use a food processor. The milk replacer I use is a powder made by Natures Farmacy. http://www.naturesfarmacy.com/store/...ary=&keywords= At 4 weeks they should be able to lap it up and at 6 weeks they will eat it a little less watery. You should be feeding the 4 week old at least 5 times a day and the 6 week old at least 4 times a day right now. I would think that about 1/2 cup or a little less for the 4 week old 5x a day should be good and a little less than a cup 4x a day for the 6 week old.... I'd rather have some left over than not feed enough. Fresh water should be available at all times. Protect the 4 week old from the 6 week old - in a few weeks they should be able to hang out together, but you will want to crate them separately and work with them separately so that they bond to humans and not just each other.
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I dont have thick skin. When i picked these guys up i almost came home with three dogs because there was this poor beagle in the middle of the hwy. By the time i turned around he or she ran into the woods. I thought about that poor beagle all the way home He has a collar on too. I have a soft spot for animals and always have. Which isnt a bad thing but isnt a good thing always either.
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In the interest of helping the puppies, I'm ignoring why you have them at such a young age, and 2 of them to boot..... my tongue is bleeding right now!

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Best plan at this moment, IMO. This lady's dogs probably need serious advice.

Thanks Fitzmar. The biting of tongues isn't limited to you.
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Thanks for the info. They are seperated right now because of the size difference and i dont want the female to hurt the boy accidently playing. The 4 week old does have teath poking in. I have bought canned wet puppy food and i was going to try and thin it with the milk replacer and see if he will take to it. I currently am home all day so taking care of them isnt a issue. I gotta speak to the vet about if theres any safe options for getting fleas off them. I think the only thing i can do is bath them with dawn dish soap atm.
Also get the vet to deworm and give shots at the appropriate ages as well. Gotta a long road ahead but its worth it.
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Thanks for the info. They are seperated right now because of the size difference and i dont want the female to hurt the boy accidently playing. The 4 week old does have teath poking in. I have bought canned wet puppy food and i was going to try and thin it with the milk replacer and see if he will take to it. I currently am home all day so taking care of them isnt a issue. I gotta speak to the vet about if theres any safe options for getting fleas off them. I think the only thing i can do is bath them with dawn dish soap atm.
Also get the vet to deworm and give shots at the appropriate ages as well. Gotta a long road ahead but its worth it.
There are wormers that you can safely use now, but I would absolutely have the vet do it for you. Definitely get the fleas off them. Make sure that they don't get chilled at this age when wet. I would ask the vet about what kind of shampoo to use. I've never had fleas so really don't have any suggestions on what to use.
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Bottle feeding isn't needed. Soak the food in some warm water or add a little warm goat milk. Feed 3-4 times daily. I actually blend the kibble to a powder for puppies that are 4 weeks and add the goat milk.

Don't take them places yet as they are VERY vunerable to diseases right now. They cannot possibly have decent immune systems.

Once they are older, enroll them in ob class seperately. Take them seperately to their own classes. Crate them seperately. Feed them seperately. Interact with them seperately.

Honestly, I think you should turn at least one of them in to a rescue. Raising two puppies is very difficult.

I really really really hope you didn't buy these puppeis as all that would do is to encourage this shitty breeder to keep pumping out puppies over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.

Sad. This whole thing is so sad. And not just for the puppeis that are here now, but for the countless more that will be born.
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They did good all nite, They did bark alot throughout the nite. Im guessing missing and looking for there mom yet.

The little boy is starting to eat some of the wet canned mixed with formula.
I dewormed them with a safe wormer for 3+ week old puppies weighing more then
2 pounds. It covers tape,round & hook. Which im sure they have tape worms with the
number of fleas they had on them. Ive used the wormer with past rescues so i know
its safe and gentle.

I got there nails clipped, a good warm bath and dried to remove those nasty bugs on em.
The little boy when i took a nap earlier took a nap with me curled up beside me and slepted
by me until i woke up which ended up waking him up lol. Bf kepted the girl entertained with letting her play in the yard. She likes to follow and try and trip ya lol.

So all in all so far so good.
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