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chasroth · 11-10-2012, 04:03 PM

My puppy Luca had another bout with vomiting and diarrhea again. I had him at the vets and he checked out ok she said if it happens again we may have to look into it medically. She thinks he got into something. I am still having trouble increasing his food without him getting the runs. She said he can go on his regular diet today. I fed him kibble mixed with oatmeal this morning now he is straight runs again. His poop was solid this morning. Looks like its bland diet for him but I don't know what to give him besides chicken and rice. I would like for him to get nutrition from it to. Any suggestions on what to give him. Plus I am thinking of putting him on a limited ingredient diet any better than others. What would you guys recommend. Thanks so much

falnfenix · 11-10-2012, 05:30 PM

what is he eating currently?

chasroth · 11-10-2012, 05:48 PM

He is eating TOTW. I dont know if I'm giving him to much. I was trying to increase his food to 4 cups a day. He was on 3 with boiled chicken and rice he was putting on some weight than when I put him on just kibble the diarrhea came on again. Now he isnt feeling well again tonight he vomited and he is shaking from cramps I am lost.

falnfenix · 11-10-2012, 05:51 PM

it's possible he's allergic to the protein source, depending on the "flavor" you're feeding. what other foods have you tried?

chasroth · 11-10-2012, 05:56 PM

He was eating nutro max when I got him and seemed ok with that than fromm large breed puppy was what I put him on. That seemed ok but than I put him on 4 health because that is what my other dogs eat and he was doing well but he seemed underweight and I couldnt increase the food without him getting the runs so I put him on totw and it seems the same things are happening. The vet threw around maybe he has irritable bowel syndrome. I was thinking of putting him on a raw diet. If anyone could help with this I dont know where to begin. How much or what to feed him plus the cost. Thanks

chasroth · 11-10-2012, 05:57 PM

He was fine on the salmon but I added lamb. Is it possible to not tolerate the lamb.

falnfenix · 11-10-2012, 05:59 PM

i looked into feeding raw recently and it's a giant pain in the butt, not to mention expensive.

yes, it's possible the dog cannot handle particular proteins, just like how some humans cannot handle lactose or eggs or peanuts. i am NOT a nutrition expert, but in your shoes i would go to a restricted ingredient diet and see how he does on it.

Rosemary · 11-10-2012, 06:19 PM

If you want to look into feeding raw, this group was recommended by AvianAntics in another thread. rawfeeding : Raw Feeding for dogs and cats!

ajp240 · 11-10-2012, 07:03 PM

Not sure how old your puppy is but I can tell you that when I was accidentally overfeeding, she got the runs. I tried to get her to four cups a day too, because I thought she was too skinny. Instead, it just made her sick. They go through lanky phases where they haven't filled out, and that's ok.

My dog is a little over 7 months and is getting 3.5 cups a day. Overfeeding will result in diarrhea!

Rouleaux · 11-10-2012, 07:09 PM

I started Rou on Orijen LB puppy. He had the "squirts" for a good week and a half at least. By day 3 or 4 I just couldn't stand to see him with the runs (it was not affecting him at all- normal activity and puppy personality, and he was holding it!) so I made him some boiled white rice for 2 days (small amounts morning and at night), then began mixing his kibble in gradually- very gradually. Normal stools since- but boy are they stinky! The high quality food has a trade off for sure, but you can always find it

70X200 · 11-11-2012, 07:10 AM

Has your vet done any tests from stool samples or are they just giving you their best guess? My first vet was more concerned that I had his ears cropped than the issues I was bringing him in for. Finally have a good vet who did some testing from stool samples. Antibiotics administered to correct a bacterial issue. Diarrhea issue has been resolved. Insist on some testing.

chasroth · 11-11-2012, 08:10 AM

He had a fecal and giardia test done.

**Patches Mom** · 11-11-2012, 11:54 PM

Whoa back up when you change his food are you doing it over a couple of weeks old food with a little bit of the new food then gradually over time you switch to all new food. If you are just changing food with out doing it gradually that can cause the runs also. You might do the chicken/rice add plain pumpkin it is good for diarrhea and also good for constipation. I would pick one food and stick with it the TOTW may be too rich for a puppy when my Buddy was a puppy I fed him Canidae suppose to be for all ages.Dog food reviews is a good way to check out food should come up when you google it do not have the web address at present. Good Luck

Whiskey · 11-12-2012, 01:20 AM

How old is your pup? Seems like a lot of food changes for a baby... that coupled with possible overfeeding could be the issue.

stryker2 · 11-12-2012, 06:29 AM

You can also feed cooked ground turkey and white rice. Also add plain canned pumpkin. Add some Digestive Enzymes and Probiotics.
Feeding RAW most of the time is the best way to go. Our boys are on Bravo RAW 3 days a week. There is also Primal, Stella Chewys, Wysong, and others. You can try Dehydrated RAW like Honest Kitchen, Dr Harveys (you add raw meat to it).
Try break his feeding into smaller meals 3-4 time a day.
Most puppies also eat way too fast. Look for one of the food bowls that slow down feeding. You can find them at Petsmart, Petco, Pet Supplies Plus. Get a Stainless Steel bowle. You also can use this time as a training opportunity and feed him his kibble by hand. That will really slow him down.
If you feed treats. Only feed good treats. No Corn, Corn Gluten, Wheat, Wheat Gluten, or Soy. No Rawhide. Nothing made in CHINA!

kpal4978 · 11-12-2012, 07:33 AM

You said he did well on the Fromm, why not just go back to that... gradually?

I feed fromm and I love it. If it was one of the few things your little pup seems to tolerate, why not just deal with the fact that he has to have different food than the other dogs, and give him the fromm?

chasroth · 11-12-2012, 04:02 PM

He is. 4.5 months I changed his food very gradually. But I put him on raw right now. I always wanted to do raw and I joined some groups to help me through the transition.

Coco Loco · 11-12-2012, 04:16 PM

What are you feeding Luca raw? Is it premade or your own diet. I feed raw. Too much organ meat can cause runny stools. It is possible for dogs to be allergic to a protein source. I know some dogs are allergic to chicken and this is often the protein you start with. Coco loves chicken and has no trouble with it. I have fed Coco raw for 2.5 years now and totally switched her over one day without a transition. She was fine but was a mess on kibble. Good luck. It is hard sometimes to find the right food for these guys.

chasroth · 11-12-2012, 04:23 PM

I just started raw. He is on chicken right now probally just that for at least 2 weeks.

Rockindaddy1967 · 11-12-2012, 04:31 PM

My new pup had the runs when I got him home tried the chicken rice thing helped a little,then tried100% pumpkin w plain yogurt in his food about table spoon of each.Stools firmed up within a couple of days

Bello · 11-13-2012, 01:57 PM

Bello had the same problem as a puppy.A fecal test showed a parasite.He was put on meds and the problem cleared up.Our vet also suspected a bowl syndrome or food allergies at first.