ZeldaRules

Wow, more insults, surprise surprise.


Merely expressing one's point of view is not the purpose of this forum. Her ill advice/method DOES matter. Here is an excerpt from the forum manifesto that is a sticky on the new member into section that you seemed to have missed:


"Our Expectations:

As with every new member that decides to join our community, we ask everyone to have a patient and open mind. You need to look around and decide if this is the community you want to be part of. We have some very strong beliefs here. Our first and for most is that we want to better the breed, so we are very passionate about this and everyone needs to be aware of this. Our community is very dedicated to welfare of the Doberman. They will always have the interests of the Doberman first. You may not appreciate some of the community responses all the time, but you need to understand where we are coming from. New Members should not be “put off” or take offense to responses to your questions, just because you do not like the answers. Our community is very willing to help each other. Take the time to learn and understand before you take offense to a response."


I think it's time you two got a room already and I'm not sure what my reproductive organs have to do with this discussion. I'd go on but I don't want to stoop to your 19 year old level.

Jenn

Lets say did you go to school? Or are you still there?
Because you are acting like a child. You are on a public forum... Seriously how old are you?
You spend so much time disagreeing with anything and everything.
Did you come on here looking for advice on your dog?
Or were you looking to pass some time at work/home to have a online arguement?
You should spend the time your wasting here argueing, with your puppy that is deaf. u would of made more of a progress putting your effort into something constructive than trying to wind up other members.

Il conclude this to,
What can we do with you?
We point you in the right direction, with FULL VISION on your side, yet you still cant SEE!
Endless cause being my hashtag/p.s/or sidenote.

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smudgeid

HELLO! I've posted a couple of times & the OP hasn't answered. I'm hoping for something different this time:

Are the 7 - 9 poops a day solid or runny? (If he's got diarrhea, he's got issues beyond training.) You mention rice, have you tried pumpkin? When he's solid, do you still have issues?

Does your puppy graze, or do you keep him to 2 or 3 meals a day?

Do you walk your puppy about an hour after he eats?

Isn't San Diego in the US? Why does your profile say US & you say Mexico? Where DO you live?

Thanks for your on topic response.
Kate

KCFilley

OP,

You have a beautiful young baby puppy. He is adorable, just adorable. Please remember he is only a baby.

All I can say is with a ton of patience and time, you can mold that little puppy into being a Doberman you will enjoy and one who will do all he can to be your protector when he's grown. Give him a fair chance. Give him time with you. Give him training. When that doesn't work, start over again. If you don't have time to work with this puppy, then please place him with a rescue.

If you don't do this, I believe you will end up with a timid, shy Doberman who digs holes in your yard, chews up any thing he finds and barks at everyone and everything. He won't come when he sees you want him to come and he'll jump on you and others for the attention he has never received. You will have no one to blame but yourself. You certainly can not blame that puppy.

He has no business whatsoever being left outside. Dobermans have to be with their owners, right by their side. That is the way they are bred. It's in their blood.

If you brought this puppy inside with you and trained him properly, taking him outside repeatedly on a leash to the area in which he's supposed to potty, you might be surprised how quickly he learns. No need to yell, hit or rub his face in feces. When you rub his face in feces, you are doing that for yourself to subside your own anger, not to train your puppy.

If you don't spend the time and patience with your pup, then get over the pee and the poop. Clean it up and move on. Tell your mother to change another diaper and move on. Stop blaming this pup. He does not understand what you want and it's difficult to train a dog via mental telepathy.

When I read your post I went over to my Taylor and hugged and kissed her and told her she would never have to live with someone who treats their Doberman like your puppy is treated. I can't even fathom rubbing my pup's face in feces. Especially a handicapped puppy with a hearing problem.

Bless his heart and shame on you if you fail this puppy.

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SpaceCowboy

lol you're hella cool. look guys im RFR with my cool dude attitude, i just admit to not reading things after being exposed. You're a true character. Thanks for proving my point of only reading what you wanna read tho. I ain't mad, I just think its messed up you don't answer fans.

ZeldaRules you're mad. You're mad at 19 years of age you don't have the wealth or intellect I have now, and by the looks it, you've still a long way to go. Quite and simple. No other way to put it. I'm a humble person for the most part but when things need to be called out and pointed out, i'll take care of that. There's a reason why I drive a MB and went straight to a prestigious 4 year Uni, but enough of my personal life, got better things to do than stripping down to the level of some egoistical posters who think they're the big cheeses around here. I could care less, its an internet forum and thats how I'm treating this as such. No more, no less. This is as personal as i'm going to get and all others that continue to come back like boomerangs with their uselessness will just be ignored from now on. Mark my words. I sure as hell got better things to do, just stripping down to your level on this based rare occasion. Thank you thank you.

Permanently back on topic from this point -----------------------------

smudgeid: I believe I have answered those questions somewhere along this thread, but since it was hijacked by flamers as the above, i'll be kind enough to repeat myself. it is inconsistent. Sometimes it'll be the runs and other days solid. I assume when he gets the runs it is from him picking away at the adult food though.

I have not tried pumpkin itself, only pumpkin treats which he was very inconsistent at eating. Sometimes he would eat them, other times he would ignore them. I did walk him after he ate when he was in the U.S. but since he no longer is, he is not walked consistently unless i'm present.

kcfilley, i know this and i care deeply about him, otherwise he wouldn't be the desktop background to my macbook to remind me of him everyday(not that i'd forget) once again, i try please believe me, i'm doing the best that I can. His face is not rubbed against his feces, I've made this clear multiple times now. Please stop assuming so, same goes for the anger part. I don't walk around being angry at him all the time or even consistently, he only ticks me off when he squats in front of me to eliminate in the balcony.

Surely i'm the only one acting like a child around here, right?
I believe i've answered most, if not all of the worthwhile questions to this point. If I may have missed some do point them out, i'll get to them when I have a chance. I'm still drawing up a detailed outline of his schedule. Night.

falnfenix

oh, to be 19 and full of vinegar again.

i stand by my suggestion. take a step back from the forum. you're not helping your case by being inflammatory (neither are those with whom you are arguing), and you're just coming off as the child you so recently were.

i know you'll just think i'm trying to pick a fight, but i'm not. i just want you to take a step back, avoid the forum for 24 hours, then come back with a clear head. do you think you're capable of that? i know i had trouble with it back in 2000 (when i was 19), but i'm just asking you to try. you might be less argumentative, and other people might be more willing to work with you.

RedMaro

I was going to post on this thread until I saw you drive a Mercedes Benz. I don't think I can compete with that.


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Rallypup87

SpaceCowboy, You are extremely rude. People are trying to help you here, not hurt you. The fact that you are 19 does shed some light on why you cannot take the constructive critisism that these seasoned members of the forum are giving you.

I would not come on here posting saying that you have a outdoor doberman, it surely will and cleary has started an aurgument which you will not win.

You are wondering why people are getting irritated with you? You say we are not reading what you are typing correctly? You want advice but then bash someone else when they give it and you "quote" them and bash them some more while being seemingly sarcastic?

RESPECT IS A TWO WAY STREET my friend, maybe learn to give a little before you expect to receive some back from the honored members here.

ZeldaRules

Proof that money and a degree can't always buy you personality or the knowledge to properly care for your pets. At 19 I was on my own, in my own apartment, and properly raising a puppy. Space does sound like a 19 year old with a Mercedes....

Hilary

Hmmm, see now I'm thinking troll again! I can't make up my mind on this one.

Then again, I can totally see a 19 year old guy with no life experience and unexplainable pride acting like this, so maybe it's legit....

Hey SpaceCowboy, did you ever say where you live? San Diego? MX? Which is it?

Hilary

And, FWIW, I hope you go on to make beautiful babies some day!

Rallypup87

He also likes to mention how much he is on this forum on his iMac or macbook, something of that sort...good grief! You think with that much money and "schooling" you could buy a clue.

monicaei

I'm sorry if you missed it, but no less than 3 (three) times did I offer up the following advice...

CRATE. TRAIN. THE. DOG.

I also explained why... If you aren't around to praise or correct, he doesn't know what you want.

Now, troll, I get that you may be offended that I said your trolling was good but not great. Hissy fits don't IMPROVE ones trolling. The are very basic. The original creativity (special needs dobe, living outside, occasionally tied up, poop training, etc) was good. Have you run out of ideas that would inflame the group, and resorted to this instead?

Edit: I just caught it... The financial thing, yes, that is noteworthy phase 2 trolling. Sorry, I didn't give you enough credit. I just skimmed the rant post. Seeing others comments, you did indeed attempt a new troll!

Beaumont67

^^^^ Exactly, sounds like "trailer trash" dobe ownership...IMO !!

SpaceCowboy ^^^^ O'h REALLY...find this hard to believe.
Please don't try and impress me with your immature age of 19 y/o.
Since your spoiled brat and young life is soooo much perfect (early on):
I feel like you are probably very entitled $$ wise feeding and living off good old Mom & Dad financially & their sole work effort.

BMW success, only comes to a very-very small percent of our youth population.
Starting with gifted IQ brains, much hard work, a little business savy, nice niche plus some marketplace luck & personable likeability.
^^^^ I don't read any of these qualities, into your posts !!
B.S. I say, you did it all, by your little own self ??

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miranadobe

You would have an easier time if he was inside with you, under your immediate and constant supervision (if you can't crate, then keep him on a leash tied to you/your waist), teaching him how to alert you to his need to go out so you could bring him directly to the designated spot to teach him specifically that's where to go.

There's a reason you don't give him free unrestricted unsupervised reign in your house - you don't want him eliminating any/everywhere. But you are doing exactly that with him being outside all day. Giving him free reign of the yard with periods of him being unsupervised (or supervised through the window, or "the 15 seconds" you look away, or whatever.) Consistency is truly the key in potty training, no matter what "method" you use.


If you can't do it because you are "30 miles away", and your mom can't do it, and you won't crate train, then you either learn to live with this dog eliminating where ever he wants, or you give him to someone else who can. What other solution were you hoping for? There isn't a successful method of teaching a dog ANYTHING that doesn't involve consistency and clarity n YOUR part.

Aww, crap (on the "balcony"), I'm a day late and a drama-dollar short!

ZeldaRules

Only dogs for me, but thank you

BenVera

Ah ha! Now I understand why the OP has ignored my posts to contact his local rescue. Once he not-so-subtly mentioned he drives a Benz, it dawned on me that he's hanging onto this dog because the Doberman, like the Benz, is a "status symbol" for him to show off to his "crew".

Hilary

Having had both, you may be onto something....

BenVera

I concur with ZR. I'll stick with my fur kids.

greenkouki

closing this thread as it's no longer a productive discussion

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