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Old 09-01-2012, 07:39 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Introducing Miss Jaina Dogmoore!

Finally have a chance to sit at my computer and post up images! She's settling in rather nicely. I've had to give her and my cats a few droplets of chamomile to calm them down.

Did her registration papers today. She's to be named Foxfire's Monster Masher KO (where KO stands for Knock Out), or Jaina, or Miss Jaina Dogmoore when she's being bad

Yesterday morning when I was done getting ready to go out, she'd only eaten half her breakfast, and managed to spill the entire bowl of water I'd given her:



So many interesting things in the yard, but she just wanted to stay near me It was hard getting her to chase a rope.






Today in the car on the way home, after having been to the dog show to get her papers done:





Hey, lady! What're you doing sitting in front of that instead of petting me?!

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Old 09-01-2012, 07:50 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Aw cute, what a heartbreaker! How old is she? I guess you're going to show?
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Aw cute, what a heartbreaker! How old is she? I guess you're going to show?
She's about 17 weeks now, so just over 4 months. I took her today and watched a bit, but the plan is to do obedience/rally and then in another two years (well, year and a half to two years) to start doing agility. Of course, teaching her how to jump is going to be interesting... she doesn't even like jumping out of the car. I've had to carry her out, otherwise she gets confused I'm considering just getting her a ramp for the car.
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She's very cute! I don't think you'll have to use a ramp. As she gets bigger she'll figure out how to hop in the car.

I think I didn't realize she was an older pup in your other post about socializing. As long as she's had that last DHP-P her shots should be in order until her rabies is due.

In your case, I'd give her a few days to settle in and she'll most likely be fine going out and about. (I was thinking she was 10 week old pup. I am very careful until they get that last distemper shot.)
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She's very cute! I don't think you'll have to use a ramp. As she gets bigger she'll figure out how to hop in the car.

I think I didn't realize she was an older pup in your other post about socializing. As long as she's had that last DHP-P her shots should be in order until her rabies is due.

In your case, I'd give her a few days to settle in and she'll most likely be fine going out and about. (I was thinking she was 10 week old pup. I am very careful until they get that last distemper shot.)
According to her papers, she already has distemper and others (I forgot the whole series) In another two months, though, I'll be taking her into the vet to get her rabies done.
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She's beautiful.

I don't think I'd be too concerned about jumping. When I bragged to our agility instructor what a good jumper Joe was, she quickly dampered my enthusiasm by asking about my control of Joe and how good was his recall off lead. She said any dog could learn to jump but it was critical that I have control of him with good recall. We went thru two full 8 week obedience sessions before we could start beginning agility.
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She's beautiful.

I don't think I'd be too concerned about jumping. When I bragged to our agility instructor what a good jumper Joe was, she quickly dampered my enthusiasm by asking about my control of Joe and how good was his recall off lead. She said any dog could learn to jump but it was critical that I have control of him with good recall. We went thru two full 8 week obedience sessions before we could start beginning agility.
Good to know

Once the agility school in my area kicks off again (they're just finishing a session), I'll be starting her up - I don't know when they'll have more just yet, but I'm already working on her with "sit" and come. So far, she recalls well, as long as she's not trying to "protect" me from something (like the cat). I think the hardest thing with her is going to be to teach her to focus on me, even if there's something she thinks is "threatening".
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Very cute redheaded girl-who are her parents?
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Very cute girl (this is what I do for water in a crate stainless steel bucket they make smaller one then use a double snap usually brass has a snap like on a leash but the snap is on each end) I snap one end to the wire crate one end to the bucket handle harder for them to dump the water out so they have water while in the crate. Once in a great while you can find a stainless steel bucket that has a flat side but those are hard to find.
My bucket has been used for two Bouvier s and Buddy when I was crating him just keep the bucket for the next pup. Good luck with your pup she is really quit.
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Love the name..."Monster Masher" That is really cool!
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I wanted to say "she's really beautiful", too! Congrats. I just love all these babies. I guess I didn't realize that I would fall so very much in love with a BREED. But, I am smitten. I love all the pictures, stories, videos, calendars, you name it. If it's a Dobie, I love it.
She really is a beautry. Best of luck in all your goals. Many happy years of love and learnin.
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Ok she's adorable etc etc etc but omg BEST. NAME. EVER. Oops my nerd is showing let me cover that back up. Seriously cute red head you've got there
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Ok she's adorable etc etc etc but omg BEST. NAME. EVER. Oops my nerd is showing let me cover that back up. Seriously cute red head you've got there
lol I assume you are referring to "Jaina"? I have to say I LOVE IT! haha .. yes my nerdiness is showing too! When I saw Jaina Dogmoore I cracked a huge smile! Lets hear it for all the WoW nerds out there!! She is definitely a cutie too, love that adorable little face!
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My friend actually has a cat named Jaina after Jaina Proudmoore haha
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Thanks - I'll keep this in mind. I looked at a few kennel bowls, and have one on the way so that she always has water on hand I bring her to water every time before we go out and just after, just so she knows where it is.

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lol I assume you are referring to "Jaina"? I have to say I LOVE IT! haha .. yes my nerdiness is showing too! When I saw Jaina Dogmoore I cracked a huge smile! Lets hear it for all the WoW nerds out there!! She is definitely a cutie too, love that adorable little face!
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Hehe, most of my pets end up with kind of geeky names. I knew when I got a dog, I wanted to name her after one of my favorite strong, female characters. Jaina Proudmoore, in my opinion, is a very strong person. Otherwise, she probably would have been Chell or Kaylee (the engineer from Firefly). I'm not an Alliance player by any means, but I think the name fits her really well
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Finally have a chance to sit at my computer and post up images! She's settling in rather nicely. I've had to give her and my cats a few droplets of chamomile to calm them down.

Did her registration papers today. She's to be named Foxfire's Monster Masher KO (where KO stands for Knock Out), or Jaina, or Miss Jaina Dogmoore when she's being bad

Yesterday morning when I was done getting ready to go out, she'd only eaten half her breakfast, and managed to spill the entire bowl of water I'd given her:

Congratulations on your new family member. I have to ask though--are you sure that KO stands for Knock Out? Usually when you find Foxfire and KO on the same registered name it's because the puppy was from a litter co-bred by Michelle Santana and Kim Owen. There is a bitch called Marienburg's Inaqui Knock Out--I noticed when they bred her they were using KO as part of the puppies names since their mother was called Kayo.

You'll have fun with her and I wouldn't bother to get a ramp--by the time you teach her to use it she'll have figured out how to hop in the car.

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Congratulations on your new family member. I have to ask though--are you sure that KO stands for Knock Out? Usually when you find Foxfire and KO on the same registered name it's because the puppy was from a litter co-bred by Michelle Santana and Kim Owen. There is a bitch called Marienburg's Inaqui Knock Out--I noticed when they bred her they were using KO as part of the puppies names since their mother was called Kayo.

You'll have fun with her and I wouldn't bother to get a ramp--by the time you teach her to use it she'll have figured out how to hop in the car.
Yah - I'm probably going to spell out Knockout on her. I just figured "monster masher" may already be used (I'm used to this type of naming due to having registered horses in the past).

I do have a question though - she's still settling in, and Marty had a few guests over last night (his brother and two friends). I noticed she's really nervous around men and cats (one of them has 3 cats, so she won't even go near him). I gave her some beef broth with chamomile seeped in it to help soothe her (she loved it). I've also been playing with her, taking her outside, etc - essentially, running myself ragged, lol. She nearly has "sit" down, but I think she's still pretty bored.

I've offered her several toy alternatives. Hid a treat in one, kong with peanut butter, organic rawhide, stuffed animals (supervised) - she won't touch any of it for more than a half a minute or two. Is this pretty normal for a puppy just settling in? I took her out in the back yard several times, and got her to play, but all she wants to do is sit on the porch and stare at me.

Anyway, just wondering if anyone has more ideas of how I can keep her entertained

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Yah - I'm probably going to spell out Knockout on her. I just figured "monster masher" may already be used (I'm used to this type of naming due to having registered horses in the past).
I don't think Monster Masher has been used--I think that Monster Mash has been (or maybe that was a second choice name in one of the early litters that were sired by Meadow Monster)

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I do have a question though - she's still settling in, and Marty had a few guests over last night (his brother and two friends). I noticed she's really nervous around men and cats (one of them has 3 cats, so she won't even go near him). I gave her some beef broth with chamomile seeped in it to help soothe her (she loved it). I've also been playing with her, taking her outside, etc - essentially, running myself ragged, lol. She nearly has "sit" down, but I think she's still pretty bored.
You probably already answered your own question. She really hasn't had enough time to recover from leaving her familiar surroundings and moving into a whole new life. Most puppies end up having to be taught games--no two people or families tend to play with pups the same way. She doesn't know any of these people that she's meeting--as she meets more people she'll be more comfortable around them. Men, unless she was raised around a man with similar mannerisms can be intimidating for puppies--and cats may be a whole new smell for her--Michelle doesn't have cats and Kim doesn't have inside cats.

I'd also not be too solicitous of her in these circumstances. Casual works better for convincing puppies that what is going on and who is there is OK than a lot of cajoling which often makes a puppy think that they are right and something is WRONG!.

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I've offered her several toy alternatives. Hid a treat in one, kong with peanut butter, organic rawhide, stuffed animals (supervised) - she won't touch any of it for more than a half a minute or two. Is this pretty normal for a puppy just settling in? I took her out in the back yard several times, and got her to play, but all she wants to do is sit on the porch and stare at me.
Yeah--that's not unusual behavior for a puppy who has just made a major change in its life--like from one home to another. I'd limit the number of toys you offer. I prefer not to stick treats into toys--I want puppies to be hungry for meals and I want the puppy to believe that I and other family members are the purveyors of all treats. I've found over the years that dog toys that smell like dogs who have played with them in the past are much more desireable than new toys so if you have any of them you might try her on those.

If she wants to sit on the porch and stare at you let her. She just figuring out her new surroundings. Let her settle in and get comfortable with her new home, her new people and introduce her to toys one at a time. Teach her give and out and start playing things like fetch with her--rolling a ball slowly away--you don't, at this point really know how she plays and she doesn't know your games and your rules.

I had a puppy who sat under the kitchen table and watched the big dogs for almost three weeks before he was ready to come out and join in on games, training and treats. He caught up in no time flat.

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I don't think you really have to entertain puppies--when they get comfortable in new places with new people they become more interactive and really the best thing of all is if you have a puppy who can spend a fair amount of time entertaining himself. If you want to entertain dogs I can loan you a couple who don't think I spend nearly enough time entertaining them. But often the best entertainment is for the dog to simply be with you as you do things--so I guess I'll get off the computer and take the dogs out to help me do some yard work.

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I don't think Monster Masher has been used--I think that Monster Mash has been (or maybe that was a second choice name in one of the early litters that were sired by Meadow Monster)
Gotcha. That works for me - I liked just Monster Masher more, anyway



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You probably already answered your own question. She really hasn't had enough time to recover from leaving her familiar surroundings and moving into a whole new life. Most puppies end up having to be taught games--no two people or families tend to play with pups the same way. She doesn't know any of these people that she's meeting--as she meets more people she'll be more comfortable around them. Men, unless she was raised around a man with similar mannerisms can be intimidating for puppies--and cats may be a whole new smell for her--Michelle doesn't have cats and Kim doesn't have inside cats.
The cats have confided themselves into one of our side rooms and its attached bathroom. One of them will come in to where me and Jaina are and lay in the closet, but I'm leaving Jaina's collar on her for now in case I need to break anything up. Just taking it easy - but I also don't want to risk her health, or the health of the cat, by not being prudent..

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OK. I'll calm down a bit - try to not be as "concerned" when she's pacing and acting anxious. She's having fun destroying an envelope right now (she's tearing off strips of it and setting them next to her).


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Yeah--that's not unusual behavior for a puppy who has just made a major change in its life--like from one home to another. I'd limit the number of toys you offer. I prefer not to stick treats into toys--I want puppies to be hungry for meals and I want the puppy to believe that I and other family members are the purveyors of all treats. I've found over the years that dog toys that smell like dogs who have played with them in the past are much more desireable than new toys so if you have any of them you might try her on those.

If she wants to sit on the porch and stare at you let her. She just figuring out her new surroundings. Let her settle in and get comfortable with her new home, her new people and introduce her to toys one at a time. Teach her give and out and start playing things like fetch with her--rolling a ball slowly away--you don't, at this point really know how she plays and she doesn't know your games and your rules.
Sadly, I don't have any toys from our previous dogs - they died about 5 years ago. All I have is the collar from one of them (it's a choke collar the dog had when it was rescued, so not one I'll ever reuse - I just kept it for the memory). She's got a rope and a ball that I'm showing her how to fetch with (she's figuring out how to fetch the rope, and with the ball she figured out pretty quick that she can nose it), but even those can be pretty disinteresting for her. I'll keep at it - and just shower her in praise in those rare moments when she figures it out

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I don't think you really have to entertain puppies--when they get comfortable in new places with new people they become more interactive and really the best thing of all is if you have a puppy who can spend a fair amount of time entertaining himself. If you want to entertain dogs I can loan you a couple who don't think I spend nearly enough time entertaining them. But often the best entertainment is for the dog to simply be with you as you do things--so I guess I'll get off the computer and take the dogs out to help me do some yard work.
Thank you, I just wanted to be sure there wasn't more that I could do for her right now. She's an absolutely fantastic dog, and I'm really looking forward to getting to know her better. She finally wore herself out worrying about our "other dog", and fell asleep:






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Oh! She's so cute! I love her new name too! Welcome to DT Miss Jaina!

Give her time and I'm sure she'll be a great jumper....especially if M thought she'd be good for agility. My girl hasn't stopped jumping yet so be careful what you wish for!

Love the shots of her and "the other dog" in the mirror. Its always so fun to see things from their perspective.

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