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Old 12-03-2007, 07:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Dog Biting Back of Leg


I have a question about my Doberman puppy biting the back of my leg. I take him out off leash sometimes and sometimes he attackes the back of my legs and it brings blood. He must be playing. It's hard to catch him to put on his Herm-Springer. I have to put it on before we go out. Without a stick (sometimes I forget) I have to go down on my knees, then I am attacked from the back. Why does my dog do this? Is this just the puppy in him or what? It's hard to believe this is playing. The bites are hard and into the skin and they make you fall to the ground. They sure don't feel like play bites.

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Old 12-03-2007, 07:49 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I have the same problem

I have a small problem with the same issue. Quentin is 8 months old and does the same thing to my husband, he does not do it to me. I established the leadership rules early to let him know who the boss is. I also had him fixed early. This may sound stupid but I don't care since it is true. I watch a lot of The Dog Whisperer. I taped all the shows for awhile and it helped me so much you can not believe. I also have tried to learn not to treat my dog like a baby. According to all the information I have read and watched, you dog may love you but has no respect for you when he does this. Violence will not get respect, establishing yourself as the leader will. I can't tell you how to do this since I'm learning myself. Watch The Dog Whisperer and research dog training and leadership rules. Here are a few, 1. Do not let your dog on the couch or the bed. 2. Never give your dog a treat w/o making him do something to earn it, such as sit or lay. 3. Always go through the door before your dog. 4. Never call your dog to you then punish him. 5. Don't get mad, just be firm. 6. Only tell him something once then punish him, not hit or yell, small jerk of the leash or aat reprimand. 7. Exercise him plenty. 8. You eat first even if just a cracker (I act like I'm eating my dogs food and spit in it before I give it to him so it will smell like me). 8. Sometimes stop giving attention before your dog is ready to stop, leave him wanting more (I have a hard time with this, I want to hug and kiss them to death).
You probably know all this since you own a Doberman, just trying to help. Quentin does this to my husband everyday when he gets home but has not drawn blood. Just seems like if this stuff did not work, he would be doing it to the smaller person, know what I mean. I also taught Q basic obedience then took him to a class that taught the same thing to socialize him.
We will have to compare note and see how it is coming along. If you find a way to fix it, let me know and I will tell my husband. He won't listen to what I say.
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Old 12-03-2007, 08:24 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Luckily I have no dogs that push the dominance envelope, but they definitely do whatever they please to Donnie, but never to me. When he gets home from work they jump all over him pawing and out of control. They also absolutely maul him on the couch and have no physical boundaries with him. Cher also incessantly licks his face, which I personally can't stand. The dogs never jump, paw, lick my face, or jump on top of me on the couch at all. Donnie lets them all barrel through doors ahead of him, which I never do...the list goes on. I have learned it's a battle I will never ever win with him and he will never change. He is much more stubborn than a dog ever thought of being. LOL
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Old 12-03-2007, 08:33 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Rudy is going to have to learn that I have a Herm Springer, and I will use it as much as I have to untill he treats me with respect.

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Old 12-03-2007, 08:52 PM   #5 (permalink)
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At some point, you will need to correct the h#ll out of that dog. Maybe not at this point though, as it doesn't seem he respects you.. and he could turn around and bite you even harder. Actually, it would be best to not let the behavior happen at all. Take him out on leash only. You must keep up with obedience training to establish your relationship with him as well. Every day work him in obedience and put him up. Make him work for his food, toys, and I would ban him from furniture as well.
Have you heard of the nothing in life is free training? It might be a good place to start.
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Old 12-04-2007, 07:03 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Jim.....Rudy needs to be collared all the time now, you have got to get some respect and control NOW, and you can do that by using the prong in the house and out for walks. I think you need to keep him on the leash while outside too, I've had to do this with Petey because of how he had been playing with the other dogs....it totally changed how he looks at me. When I have him on the leash, he KNOWS I'm the boss. Rudy is going to be a very big boy given his Euro lines, and this problem will not just go away, it could get more dangerous for you and him. Biting is NOT ALLOWED EVER, except on toys.

I am reading the book, "Bones Would Rain From The Sky." I think every single dog owner should read it. It explains how dogs look at relationships. I just love the book. I had it on my list to read and then my mentor on here told me to read it, I find it so good, I bought a copy. There is also a free website with tons of the authors articles.

http://www.flyingdogpress.com/

Do the NILF training with him too.
http://www.pets.ca/articles/article-dog_nilf.htm

Good luck Jim...this puppy raising takes a long time!!!

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Old 12-04-2007, 06:10 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Ok Carol, but I have seen blood marks on his neck from the prong collar. Should I be worried about that?

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There shouldn't be any blood on his neck from the prong in normal training, if there is it isn't being used correctly.
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Carol told me to keep it on while he is in the house and outside too.

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Only have the collar on when he is up playing and interacting with you.....don't let him sleep on it all night long. Hang a small tab(leash) to the collar, something that won't catch on anything, and you can give him a quick correction, tell him a very firm NO and let him see in your face that you are really UNHAPPY with what he is doing. Do it every single time he bites you. It won't take long for him to want the happy smiling Jim back instead of the angry frowning Jim. Are you sure that the collar is fitted correctly? Post a picture in here so we can see. Petey has a few bumps on his neck....and one was bleeding the other day.....not from a correction....just because it was under the collar and got nicked.

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