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Old 07-31-2012, 09:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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very rare chocolate doberman

So i was on my local online classifies and saw an add for a very rare chocolate doberman for stud. Wow really! VERY Rare! He didn't even know its rust not chocolate.Should i say something? Also there was a puppy that was half German shepherd half doberman and they have to sale it because its extremely hyper and bites. I feel bad for these dogs who will probably end up at a shelter.
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I have 2 VERY rare "light silver" dobermans. Sadly, I'm very selfish and want to keep the rarity for myself! I mean, if everyone could have one what would they be worth then???

Joking aside, damn people aren't very smart. Best wishes to those dogs.
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You can attempt to say something but if you directly contact them, they most likely will tell you off. What you can do is post a RE: post with some details about not so rare their Chocolate Doberman is and maybe link a website with Doberman info.
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I gotta ask... Is "chocolate" a red dobe, or something else? Can you post a link?
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OMG what a moron... not only does he not know his dog is red (or in UK, brown or sometimes chocolate, but not in US) - but he thinks a 10 month old is ready to breed!?!? Based on what - being cuddly? Or "rare"... LOL. Clearly knows diddly about his dog. Oh.
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And yes he will find someone with a female to breed to him.
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Another litter of BYB pups waiting to be conceived! Which may result in another 7+ pups that could end up unhealthy, in unfit homes, or in a pound. And those pups could end up bred and then the cycle start again

A better option for that "chocolate" male---->cut his balls off at the proper age and let him have a happy and healthy sex free life!
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Yeah post an information ad....that there are 4 standard colours (Black, Red, Blue, Fawn) and that NONE of them are rare...and also that a dog is NOT ready for breeding until at least 2 minimum.
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I am in one of those moods today and I just called the person and they still have the "rare chocolate" stud. I told them it's not chocolate the official color is red and rust and maybe they should educate themselves first about the breed. Needless to say they hung up on me but I did get to say what I wanted to. Like I said I am in one of those moods today OK update: the guy calls me back and tells me he is a vet and knows the proper names. I told him well you must not be an educated vet he goes on to tell me that he is black and when he gets older he will turn to chocolate because he is the first of his kind in the littler. Huh, oh well stupid is and stupid does.

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Well, I notice on here a lot of people calling the markings on their dobes "tan." There is no tan, it is rust. I have corrected a couple of people on this and am completely ignored. Am I wrong about the markings? You have black and tan Rottweillers, black and tan miniature pinschers, but dobes are black and rust, red and rust, blue and rust, fawn and rust. Has that changed?

And I don't think people are referring to their dobe's markings as tan because they actually are tan and veer from the breed standard...I think they are referring to them as tan because they don't know any better.

I didn't correct people to be rude, by the way (I always put a smiley face to show it was meant as a friendly comment/correction). I thought that the purpose of a forum like this, among other things, was to educate people.

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Hannah6, I think the term tan is used in Europe, but I could be wrong.


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the guy calls me back and tells me he is a vet and knows the proper names. I told him well you must not be an educated vet he goes on to tell me that he is black and when he gets older he will turn to chocolate because he is the first of his kind in the littler. Huh, oh well stupid is and stupid does.
Wow! That's as good as the brain swelling myth! Color changing dobe! If he's a vet, then I'm a mermaid...

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hmm color changing, well ummm, yeah

and okay ready, I use to call the red dobes chocolate, yup thats right, I have even said "I like the chocolate colored ones"

I now know it is red, and I have a red, who is a lovely chocolate brown but what really threw me was the first time I saw a fawn, that confused me as I use to think dobes were black and rust and only black and rust but I know better now
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I think everybody should call this guy. I tried earlier and got no answer. I am going to keep trying.
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Ok I just talk to this kid. He is only 18. he got the dog from a Mary Rawlings. He told me his vet said that his red was very deep for a red so that is why the boy calls it chocolate. He told me that the dogs hips were "clear" I explained to him that that couldnt be done until 2 years old. he said "oh". I tried to educate him a bit, but I think he needs to hear from more people to convince him that what he is doing is wrong!
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Ok I just talk to this kid. He is only 18. he got the dog from a Mary Rawlings. He told me his vet said that his red was very deep for a red so that is why the boy calls it chocolate. He told me that the dogs hips were "clear" I explained to him that that couldnt be done until 2 years old. he said "oh". I tried to educate him a bit, but I think he needs to hear from more people to convince him that what he is doing is wrong!
Babies forcing babies to have babies.

Get any info on the dog? Anyone know Mary Rawlings?
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Well, I notice on here a lot of people calling the markings on their dobes "tan." There is no tan, it is rust. I have corrected a couple of people on this and am completely ignored. Am I wrong about the markings? You have black and tan Rottweillers, black and tan miniature pinschers, but dobes are black and rust, red and rust, blue and rust, fawn and rust. Has that changed?

And I don't think people are referring to their dobe's markings as tan because they actually are tan and veer from the breed standard...I think they are referring to them as tan because they don't know any better.

I didn't correct people to be rude, by the way (I always put a smiley face to show it was meant as a friendly comment/correction). I thought that the purpose of a forum like this, among other things, was to educate people.


I have always said Red and Rust and Black and tan.... but am probably wrong....to the "dober police"....please help us out.
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The sire of the dog is Black tanzer Rawlings ( from what I could decipher) and I couldnt catch the dams name. He really was a "nice" boy just uneducated. He kept say "sorry my mom..." and "sorry my dad...." I think he just doesnt have a clue!
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Someone else please call the boy too! If you are nice, he talks a lot!
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So i was on my local online classifies and saw an add for a very rare chocolate doberman for stud. Wow really! VERY Rare! He didn't even know its rust not chocolate.Should i say something? Also there was a puppy that was half German shepherd half doberman and they have to sale it because its extremely hyper and bites. I feel bad for these dogs who will probably end up at a shelter.
I'm in Roy and check KSL every day. I saw that ad too and thought it was pretty stupid.
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Old 08-01-2012, 05:56 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Hannah6, I think the term tan is used in Europe, but I could be wrong.




Wow! That's as good as the brain swelling myth! Color changing dobe! If he's a vet, then I'm a mermaid...
I just checked the AKC and FCI breed standards...no tan markings. It's rust.

Ah, the brain swelling myth! Over the years when I've been out walking my dobes I always get comments. One of the things people will say is that they've never seen a "brown" one before, that they've only seen black and tan ones. I tell them that in the U.S. they're called reds, but in Germany they would call them brown. And...I always add, they aren't black and tan, they are black and rust, red and rust. Then I tell them about the blue ones and the fawn ones. Sometimes I think they wish they'd never talked to me.

And, then...it's not that unusual for someone to say, they're beautiful dogs, it's too bad about "their problem." When I ask what problem that is they tell me about their brain swelling.

What's worse, is when I tell them that is a total myth, some people will say things like "Oh, no...my uncle's friend had one and its brain swelled and it started turning on him." At that point I just want to get away from them.
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Well, I notice on here a lot of people calling the markings on their dobes "tan." There is no tan, it is rust. I have corrected a couple of people on this and am completely ignored. Am I wrong about the markings? You have black and tan Rottweillers, black and tan miniature pinschers, but dobes are black and rust, red and rust, blue and rust, fawn and rust. Has that changed?

And I don't think people are referring to their dobe's markings as tan because they actually are tan and veer from the breed standard...I think they are referring to them as tan because they don't know any better.

I didn't correct people to be rude, by the way (I always put a smiley face to show it was meant as a friendly comment/correction). I thought that the purpose of a forum like this, among other things, was to educate people.
I did my dobes AKC registration online, and it gave the option of choosing either rust or tan markings with all four colors.
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