Worried

KyJustice · 12-02-2007, 09:12 PM

Can anyone tell me if I need to worry that my new 12 week old puppy is jumping on my 12 month old dobe girl and biting the back of her neck. And now all of a sudden my girl is yapping at the male like she seems like she wants to play but it seems like a winning upset yap rather than play yap. Ok can anyone give me a any suggestions do I need to worry are they just playing is e being aggressive? I have had dobes before just never 2 at once. Thanks

Rob,AJ, Dado & Zayden

**Red_Storm** · 12-02-2007, 09:19 PM

Mine do that and they are just playng(most of the time). Every once in a while it can go a bit far and they get a bit pissy with one another but it's over quickly. It's usually just like you descibe. One letting the other know "now ain't the time, don't push me". The way I look at it it's kinda like having kids lol.

12-03-2007, 05:07 AM

my 6 month old dobe does it all the time to my wifes yorkie but hes just playing, if the yorkie yells leory will stop, he doesnt mean to hurt brutus (the yorkie) but sometimes they do get too rough and i make them stop

**sebsyd** · 12-03-2007, 05:23 PM

My two do it all the time. They are playing and occasionally it gets out of hand, but a quick "enough" is usually good. They seem to love to play this way.

**Luvbirds59** · 12-03-2007, 06:02 PM

Petey always tries to bite the necks of dogs he is playing with....none of them like it now that he is 100#s....so I make him stop, and leash him until he calms down. You will have to monitor the playing for a bit, but they will work it out.

oxc

hbwright · 12-04-2007, 07:56 AM

Dogs have an amazing way of interacting with each other. Sometimes I wish it were as easy for humans. Summer has always been the smallest and oldest in the house and she is so obviously the queen. Both Mansen and Cleo could have very easily injured her if they wanted to but neither of them even knew that. They knew her as queen. Your elder is calling the shots and letting puppy know the boundaries. Your job is to supervise and only step in when intervention is clearly warrented. Otherwise your older dog is teaching your puppy in a way that dogs do best. I've noticed that Summer is a much better trainer then I am and able to get through to Jordan in regards to his behavior in a much more effective way then I ever could dream. Older dogs also know when puppies are puppies (even in our case where the puppy is much larger then the older dog). I've noticed Summers playing much more with Jordan the older he gets.

edh · 12-04-2007, 08:09 AM

I would not keep them together unsupervised for a while. The older dog will correct the younger pup when she has had enough, as well she should, otherwise she would get hurt. You have to make sure she does not really get mad.

JavasMom · 12-04-2007, 08:57 AM

I'd keep an eye on the playtime even though the older pup will put the younger in its place when she's had more than enough. It may come in the form of a snarl and air snap, or she might make contact. You may need to intervene and give the younger one a time out if he refuses to back off. It's important that he learn to listen to you, even though we can't expect them to quite 'get it' at 12 weeks. Maybe your younger guy needs some extra physical/mental exercise to tire him out so that he won't try and beat up his older 'sister' as often.

**Doberdog** · 12-04-2007, 10:02 AM

Quentin is way too rough with my other dogs. He is only 8 months but is more than twice their size. He almost accidently killed my Maggie one night. He always goes for the neck and the collar. His bottom jaw got stuck in her collar then he fell over on his side and the collar twisted around his mouth. They were both pulling apart and Maggie was going to die if I did not do something. She lost her anal glad and all of her bowel. I could not cut the collar. Finally my husband got them loose. Quentins mouth was bleeding and poor Maggie, the whites of her eyes were blood red for two weeks. Now I intervine. She does correct him but it is my job as Alpha to keep control, not hers. They all have to be able to depend on me. I do a body block and a loud, enough. As soon as I turn around he goes for them again. I end up having to make him lay on his bed and stand over him till he calms down. Sometimes I put a leather leash on him and do a power down. I step on the leash and make him stay laying down untill I decide he can get up. The lady from my puppy class recommended to do this about 40 min a day but I can't do it that long to him. It does not seem fair. I don't ever, ever, let him up while he is trying to get up, only when he submits and lays still. Belive me I have a long way to go myself. I can't sit down for 5 minutes w/o having to correct him and he hardly listens to me w/o treats in my hand so I don't have all the respect that I think I deserve. I'm looking for an advanced trainer in my area. I have the trainer from puppy class but I don't know if she does advanced training or not. I want him to listen w/o a treat. Someone from a Dobie rescue said I should call Bark Busters. They come to your house and have a lifetime commitment to you. I have to do something. Sometimes I think he is out of control then he ends up being so good for a few hours at a time. Time is what we need I guess for them to grow up and calm down. My puppy trainer said I should wear him out with exercise before I let him play with the other dogs but that is hard to do. This time of year I get home after dark and walk them all at once with a big flash light on the back of the 5 acres, off leash so they can run (I cannot run). It seems you are not alone in this problem. I have a friend in Paris Ky with multiple Dobies and he said he never lets them play unsupervised, that they will rip each other with their teeth and he has to have them stapled up. He is a nurse so he actaully bought a staple gun it happens so much. Mine is not that bad yet but he is young and I want to prevent it from getting that far. So, IMO, even though this is puppy behavior, you are the Alpha and must control all the dogs.
Have a great day, Sheila