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Adding chicken stock to dry food?

I wondered if this way ok to do? Bella is less than excited about her food these days, and I splashed a little chicken stock on it one evening, and she eagerly gobbled it up.

The reason I even question it is because onions were listed as an ingredient. I know onions are a no-no for dogs, but would the small amount in chicken stock be harmful? Maybe that's a dumb question.
I haven't given it to her again....until I figure it out.

Any suggestions on things I could add to it to entice her to eat it. I feed her Innova, and initially she liked it, and her bowels are great on this, so I hate to go changing her food unless I have to.
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If you do this, most often this creates a picky eater. Try adding a little warm water.

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I don't know exactly what you used, but I'd check the salt level too.

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I cook leg quarters in the crock pot until the few bones are falling away from the meat and throw them away. I freeze equal amounts of this soupy chicken and then mircrowave it and stir a little into the dry kibble. Very inexpensive and easy.

The way I look at it we have them for so short a time why not spoil 'em a little?
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I wondered if this way ok to do? Bella is less than excited about her food these days, and I splashed a little chicken stock on it one evening, and she eagerly gobbled it up.

The reason I even question it is because onions were listed as an ingredient. I know onions are a no-no for dogs, but would the small amount in chicken stock be harmful? Maybe that's a dumb question.
I haven't given it to her again....until I figure it out.

Any suggestions on things I could add to it to entice her to eat it. I feed her Innova, and initially she liked it, and her bowels are great on this, so I hate to go changing her food unless I have to.
Our breeder told us we could use chicken broth, just make your own then you know what's in it. I have fed my dogs for years with a little yogurt, cottage cheese, a little poached egg, all organic and I make sure the dairy is lo fat and lo cal. To help Hera with her eating and not be distracted at 10 weeks we were feeding her a little canned puppy (Blue Buffalo) some warm water and it helped her stay focused on her eating. She is a great eater. I totally believe in spoiling them too.
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I agree with no making her into a picky eater if she isn't always like this, but when I had one of Mabel's relatives for a few months she refused to eat at one point, 2 days of nothing at all so I started with about a tablespoon of chicken broth dribbled over it. Thats all it took. We used the organic stuff like would be made in your own kitchen from the low sodium section.

Iams also makes a dog gravy, doesnt take but a tablespoon to mix and coat all the pieces.

If she's being picky you can try the stand by of she has 10 minutes to eat and no more then it's up.
Buy a buster cube for her to work for her food, or use it in her basic training.
There is also one dog I know who won't eat from a bowl, she prefers it to be tossed on the ground or in her crate and hunt for it lol....

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I personally would not right now. I would teach her to learn to eat on her own. THEN at some point down the road I would not mind adding things to her food. I created a dog I literally had to hand feed and then stuff to survive. It's not a road that anyone wants to be on. it's awful and it's stressful.

Food goes down for 10 minutes at my house with new puppies. If they wander away, it gets put away. I also tend to pick good eaters so it's not much of an issue. If a pupyp doesn't eat, I may try again 2-3 hours later since they do need to eat. I don't coax, coddle or beg to get them to eat though.

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Puppies do tend to loose focus eating when they are young. I see no harm with cooking up some chicken quarters to add a tiny amount to her food to encourage her to eat and freezing the rest for later addition. Real meat/broth is excellent for your pup, but she needs the vitamins from her kibble too. Innova is a good food. I would not give store bought broth. Also, I would advise against starting to add different things or changing foods if she slacks off eating what you are giving now. IOW, she will catch on that if she doesnt eat or is picky, you will give her something more tasty, so you train her to be picky by rewarding her with better tasting food. Wait her out and dont leave the bowl with food in it for more than 20 mins and dont try coaxing her to eat. Throw uneaten food out for the birds, if you have added moisture. Fix fresh food for next meal, just less of it.///// Now that all thats been said, if you have a crate, putting her in it for 20 minutes to eat will help her to concentrate on her food.

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Sometimes my guy gets in a picky state. I just throw a little Olive Oil on his dry food and he tears it up.

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I personally would not right now. I would teach her to learn to eat on her own. THEN at some point down the road I would not mind adding things to her food..
This is exactly what I think as well. I don't mind adding treats to a dog's bowl, but it's on MY terms. They might get that AFTER they prove they're a good eater, never before.

I'd NEVER EVER add anything to a food bowl to try to lure a dog into eating again-did that once, and it was a never ending spiral of drama and stress.
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All of us who recommend NOT sticking stuff on kibble to get a puppy who isn't eating particularly well to eat better have run into the problem of creating a picky eater.

I did this once and swore it'd never happen again. And it hasn't.

With puppies I do put extras in their kibble. In fact, actually all my dogs get a spoonful of yogurt or cottage cheese with their breakfast. At night they either get an egg (by preference I hard boil them) or if I've found a hot deal on ground turkey, ground beef of if chicken hind quarters are on sale I will either crockpot cook chicken quarters until the meat falls off the bone then grind or chop that up and freeze it in pint containers--the dogs get about 1/4 cup of that on dinners. If I've found a deal on ground meat I just cook that in enough water to make slop and do the same thing--freeze most of it keeping one contaner out for immediate use.

About puppies--I don't know how old that puppy is now but typically I stop feeding three meals (and frankly I never feed four meals a day) at around four months--my cue is when the puppy stops eating all three meals speedily--usually they start leaving some of their lunch--that's the signal that there isn't enough time elapsing between breakfast and lunch for them to actually get hungry. After that they eat two meals a day.

And most puppies in my house might miss one meal in the midst of heavy teething but that about all. Everyone gets 10 minutes to eat--no one takes that long. I dog sit for other people--a variety of breeds--their owners tell me about how they don't eat early in the morning (all dogs here get breakfast at 5:30 am)--visiting dogs miss about one breakfast and they are as hot to trot at 5:30 as my dogs are. I try not to listen to the people leaving dogs with me when they tell me about their dogs quirks when it comes to food. I find if I don't know they don't like water on the kibble the dogs don't have a problem with it.

I give the extras to puppies so they will learn that eating is all about eating everything you have in front of you quickly--I never add to a dish that has been presented--that's one of the fastest ways to create picky eaters. I feed puppies in crates for the most part so that they are a captive audience and don't have as many things around to be distracted with They all get one chance and then they wait until the next meal.

Works for me--they even eat on the road with their handler.

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All of us who recommend NOT sticking stuff on kibble to get a puppy who isn't eating particularly well to eat better have run into the problem of creating a picky eater.

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We've also seen person after person after person after person make the same mistake!
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I did not have problems with Princess eating as a puppy, but once she got past a year, she seemed disinterested and picked at her food. I had been feeding her Canidae so I tried Taste of the Wild Pacific Stream and she improved. I then tried TOTW High Prairie and she has gobbled it down ever since. That is all Jake has had since he turned 4 months old, and he gobbles it down as well.

Rather than adding an appetizer to the kibble, try a change in kibble.
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I would not recommend changing from Innova as it is an excellent kibble and the OP says the pup does well on it. Lots of pups go thru this stage for one reason, distraction, or another, being fed too often or too much. Dobebug has covered the topic well, especially about not adding anything to an already presented food. Parker went thru the distracted stage and drove me nuts, but he outgrew it an when he hit 3 or 4 months he became ravenous. I was so happy I fed him too much and he got pano. Too many calories! You just have to be careful with young puppies and how you approach feeding them. The less you do the better at first. Healtiy additions are good, but you have to be careful how you add them.

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