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Old 01-16-2012, 11:27 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Angry this suuuuuucks!!!! >:{

Capone got his ears cropped by Dr. Jezbera on friday. Everything went well and he did great this whole weekend. Doesn't mess with the cup on his head, but does the occasional shaking of the the head. I woke up this morning to find his forehead and the back of his head sticky on the perimeter of the cup. Its definitely puss because u can smell it. we called Dr. Jezberas office and they said it has to be the new tape that they are using, because this has come up with other dogs lately...WHY WOULD YOU USE A TAPE THAT HAS CAUSED THIS PROBLEM WITH OTHER DOGS!!!!!!!!! my poor little guy woke up in so much pain...my gf is at the vet with Capone waiting to be seen, but i have no idea how they are going to fix this. Somebody at the office said that they only have experience with the upside down cup method. I cant imagine putting a cup on him with his head like this....ANY SUGGESTIONS???

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Old 01-16-2012, 11:29 AM   #2 (permalink)
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its pretty obvious, but the arrow and the line is showing the area that is effected...
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Poor Capone

To answer your question as to why they would continue to use that tape, like humans, all dogs have different reactions to different materials.

I hope everything at the Vet goes well. Poor Capone

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oh...btw...that pic was from friday...on his way home after surgery...i just wanted to show u guys where exactly the problem is.
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maybe he can remove and put a foam block on his head
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From the picture, I'm assuming the cup/tape rubbed on his forehead and the back of his head causing irritation. There are several options besides using the cup. Like Dobienut said, you can use a foam block, but that probably would just rub the same area and you'd still have a problem. The other two options are to just leave the ears hanging until the stitches are out and the edges have healed or the ears can be glued together over the top of the head to keep them from flopping around. I've had to do both methods with different pups over the years and the ears come out fine.

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my gf just left the vet...they said that he had an allergic reaction to the tape that they used..they prescribed him some antibiotics and left his ears loose...i have a couple more questions...

will this effect how long i have to post after the stitches are out...

I've seen a method where they tie the ears together behind the head somehow, will this be a good way to go???

Marieldobes do u have pics or a link of how to tie the dogs ears behind the head so they wont flop???
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my gf just left the vet...they said that he had an allergic reaction to the tape that they used..they prescribed him some antibiotics and left his ears loose...i have a couple more questions...

will this effect how long i have to post after the stitches are out...

I've seen a method where they tie the ears together behind the head somehow, will this be a good way to go???

Marieldobes do u have pics or a link of how to tie the dogs ears behind the head so they wont flop???

You do not tie the ears. You glue them--I'll let Marieldobes help ya with that as I have no experience with it. Personally, I'd be inclined to leave them alone for a few days at least, to heal.

Poor little dude. Shame he's had such a nasty reaction. Hopefully the antibiotics will have him feeling better very soon.
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im sorry, i really didnt mean tie...im just a little flustered from this morning...Dr. Jezbera is one of the best ear cropping vets in so cal. if he said just to leave them alone for 2-3 days i think i should trust him. they will try the cup with a different tape on thurs or friday depending on how his head looks...
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Leave them be.. flopping for a few days this young won't hurt them a bit
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Yeah, just leave them alone. Letting them hang at this point in time isn't going to cause any problems.
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Sorry to hear about your pups eara, I'm sure he'll be back to normal in no time!
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Too bad for the little guy
I would leave them and do not show concerns over it to the pup and redirect redirectredirect, if the pup starts messing with them.
I would demand free postings because you now, you have a setback and they were aware of other dogs having allergic reactions.
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Juno's were floppy for about 4 days when she had suture lacerations still. Didn't affect her at all. her ears were laid on top of her head.
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poor guy has been sad all day...hopefully his antibiotics will make him feel better really soon!!!

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I agree with everybody else...at this point I would just leave them down and not worry about glueing them over the top of the head - they'll be fine.

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my gf just left the vet...they said that he had an allergic reaction to the tape that they used..they prescribed him some antibiotics and left his ears loose...i have a couple more questions...

will this effect how long i have to post after the stitches are out...

I've seen a method where they tie the ears together behind the head somehow, will this be a good way to go???

Marieldobes do u have pics or a link of how to tie the dogs ears behind the head so they wont flop???
This will NOT affect how long you have to post after the stitches are out.

They STITCH the ears together--it's NOT a good way to go. The cup, the foam block, the ears left loose, and the ears glued together over the top of the head are all proven methods that are easy on the dog.

Either that or you have seen ears that have been glued together over the top of the head--you can do that but letting them hang is just fine and the glue is an adhesive--since you don't know what the adhesive or tape was he reacted to I'd just let them be until healed and the sutures come out.

You can't ever predict when a dog will react to a particular type of tape adhesive. Just make sure you find out the brand name of the tape so that when you start posting you don't accidently get that type of tape and cause yet another tape reaction. The information that the puppy reacted to a particular type of tape should go into his vet records and your records for him so that any vet treating for any reasons knows that he has reacted to a particular tape.
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thanks for all your help guys!!!

i woke up this morning and there is still pus coming out the top of his head where the cup was, its not a crazy amount, but it hasnt stopped completely...will this continue for a couple days until the antibiotics kick in???
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Hello!

I hope your dog's ears get better fast. It is very sad and upsetting to see our dog suffering.

I guess there are many ways to do ears cropping. Most of the ones I see on the net involved putting a cup on the head and taping it. Personally, I think it is a very good way to do it. I wish the vets around here were using this method.

Here they use the Tampax Tampon method. Those tampons are rigid, just the right length and there already have absorbing material at one end. They stick it in the dog's ears then they tape around it. It works. However every 3 or 4 days, you have to remove the whole setup to let the ears breath and dry up. After 4 or 5 times the tape have removed all the hairs from the ears.

The vet that did my first 7 Dobes used to taped the ears right away after the operation. Almost all the time when you removed the tape there was gooey and smelly stuff = infection.....That was not pleasant and the vet did not gave any pain killer.....

This vet is retired now. I was lucky to find another vet who does ear cropping. She is also an old vet. All the young vets in a 100 miles radius from my place do not do ear cropping and give you the evil eye when talk about it...But this is another subject.

Anyway, this new (old) vet uses the same Tampax Tampon method, but only put them about 1 week after the surgery. During that week the ears are let to dry and the wounds heal much faster. She only put some tape at the end so the tip of the ears will not curl up. The dog is also put on pain killer for the first 3 days.

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This photo was taken at the clinic when I picked my girl up after the surgery.
She was happy to see her daddy....

Then after that week, The ears are taped and we alternate tape on for 4 days, tape off for 3 days and so on until the ears stand up by themselves.

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Then the final result
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I would leave them and do not show concerns over it to the pup and redirect redirectredirect, if the pup starts messing with them.
I would demand free postings because you now, you have a setback and they were aware of other dogs having allergic reactions.
When I had my girls cropped, postings were included in the price of the crop, and we could bring them in for as long as it took the ears to stand.
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