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10-17-2007, 10:25 PM
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| | Super Duper
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| Ear posting questions for everyone to answer We have a ton of questions all the time, especially with newposters and new doberman owners and heck, I will soon be posting my own dog for the first time (though I have posted others). Might as well make this as thorough as possible, right?
1. How old was your pup when cropped?
2. How long did you post your pup before the ears stood?
3. Would you consider this a short/military, medium/pet, or long/show crop?
4. What method did you use for posting? What materials did you use? pipe insulation? tampons? Glue? Backtaping?
5. Who did the crop? Where are they located?
6. Is there something you would change about your method?
7. Immediately after the crop, were your pups ears taped over the head, or did you ues a cup, or foam?
Anything else? Would be nice to gather all the info as one cumulative depot of the info for other posters to see all the methods people here have successfully (or not!) used.
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10-17-2007, 10:50 PM
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| | Alpha | My 2 pets were cropped at 7-7 1/2 wks, my show pup at 9wks. At our clinic we typically crop 7-10 wks.
My old girl is 14 1/2..... can't remember exactly, but I'm pretty sure was done posting by 4-5 mos. My boy is 7yr... again trying to remember... I'd have to dig out some of the 4 thousand pics I have from the last 15 years to tell for sure, but I think he was pretty similar. They have crops that were typical of more of the pet/show crops 10-15 yrs ago. Some of the show crops now have gotten pretty long. My pup (12mos).... her ears looked like they were going to stand around the usual time .... and then she started teething and they started falling inward... UGH!!! We are almost done, but she has been in the breathe right strips for about 4 mos. The tips are not tipping in much anymore- just a little tiny bit at the top. She has a pretty long show crop -- probably if her ears were just 1/2 inch shorter they would've stood sooner.
I posted all pretty similarly -- foam rod and tape -- used white tape on the first 2 and masking tape on the 3rd (our clinic uses the foam backer rod wrapped w/ stickyside out white tape and masking tape around the ears.
I don't know who cropped the first 2, my show pup was cropped by Dr. Anne Platt at the breeder. Immediately after crop ears were tape up using a styrofoam cup covered in duct tape, ears glued to the tape and then taped to the cup w/ white tape.
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10-17-2007, 11:39 PM
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| | Alpha
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| Doberkim,
Both of my puppies were cropped at 7 weeks. Sydney has a short show crop,while Sebastian has a med crop. Both were done by the breeder's vet. in In and Mn respectively. They did not use a cone on Sebastian or Syd and she had trouble healing along the cut because it opened up when we took off the tape the first time. They just taped them together on top of their head. On Syd I use tampons with athletic tapped backwards and then tape them around. Sebs needed a longer post so I used the foam type of rod with the tape stickyside out. I haven't heard about using masking tape, but it is good idea. I suppose it pulls less hair from the ear and is easier on the pup. I have heard several people talk about breathe right strips. Could you explain how and when to use them please. I'd appreciate it. Sebs is 20 wks and his ears will stay up for about 5-6 days before one starts to droop. Syd is 12 wks and she has a long way to go. I have read on this site that the ears should stay up for 1 week or longer before one can consider them through with posting. What is the right info? How old is a correct length of time for posting? I realize that it is different for every pup - just an average will do. Thanks, this was an excellent idea for us with new pups!  |
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10-17-2007, 11:48 PM
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| | Alpha
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| 1. How old was your pup when cropped? ~10 weeks
2. How long did you post your pup before the ears stood? Roughly 2.5 months
3. Would you consider this a short/military, medium/pet, or long/show crop? I chose a medium but they are quite long. I definitely wouldn't go with a short crop though.
4. What method did you use for posting? What materials did you use? pipe insulation? tampons? Glue? Backtaping? The vet did the posting but they used a long piece of foam the roughly the size of a tampon with double sided tape and then they taped over that.
5. Who did the crop? Where are they located? Dr.Patricia Edwards, Lilburn, GA
6. Is there something you would change about your method? I didn't really have much to do with it and they posted quickly so no.
7. Immediately after the crop, were your pups ears taped over the head, or did you ues a cup, or foam? Over the head for 10 days |
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10-18-2007, 12:18 AM
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| | Lil Dog | Quote:
Originally Posted by SNCBOOM 1. How old was your pup when cropped? ~10 weeks
2. How long did you post your pup before the ears stood? Roughly 2.5 months
3. Would you consider this a short/military, medium/pet, or long/show crop? I chose a medium but they are quite long. I definitely wouldn't go with a short crop though.
4. What method did you use for posting? What materials did you use? pipe insulation? tampons? Glue? Backtaping? The vet did the posting but they used a long piece of foam the roughly the size of a tampon with double sided tape and then they taped over that.
5. Who did the crop? Where are they located? Dr.Patricia Edwards, Lilburn, GA
6. Is there something you would change about your method? I didn't really have much to do with it and they posted quickly so no.
7. Immediately after the crop, were your pups ears taped over the head, or did you ues a cup, or foam? Over the head for 10 days | Dr. Edwards does an excellent crop. We have an older blue dobie and were looking into Permastay implants to help his ears stand (his previous owners had his ears cropped but did not take the time for the aftercare) and each vet we visited to inquire about the implants all referred us to Dr. Edwards. Pretty impressive considering these referrals were coming from vets in Morgantown, WV. |
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10-18-2007, 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by doberkim 1. How old was your pup when cropped? | 8 weeks. Quote:
Originally Posted by doberkim 2. How long did you post your pup before the ears stood? | Until he was 7 months old. Quote:
Originally Posted by doberkim 3. Would you consider this a short/military, medium/pet, or long/show crop? | Long/show crop. Quote:
Originally Posted by doberkim 4. What method did you use for posting? What materials did you use? pipe insulation? tampons? Glue? Backtaping? | Materials - Tampax Slender tampons, Johnson & Johnson Zonas tape, bandage scissors, adhesive remover, Nolvasan Otic solution, cottons balls/swabs. Making the Post - Pull the plunger of the tampon out past the groove of the barrel and use a small piece of tape to secure it. Pull a little cotton out the end and tape in place. Tape the string down. Backwrap the tampon with the tape from the top to the bottom (sticky side out), avoiding wrinkles. Posting - Set the tampon deep into the ear well, tug the ear up and hold in place. Take a longer piece of tape, starting at the bottom of the ear flap and wrap medially (toward the inside of the head), go around once, then down further on the base for support, then back up. Use a smaller piece of tape to finish it up. Squeeze tape onto the ear. Repeat on other side, taping toward the inside of the head. For the bridge, pull the ears straight up, then take a long piece of tape and starting at the base, go around both posts. Don't make it too tight or the ears will tilt inwards when alert. Loosen the bridge as time goes on, and then stop using it altogether toward the end of posting. Taking Out the Posts - Using adhesive remover on a cotton swab, create a path for the bandage scissors to cut, starting from the bottom going up. Careful not to cut the ear fold. After removing the post, use a cotton ball with adhesive remover and clean the ear to remove residual adhesive. Then a cotton ball with Nolvasan to remove the adhesive remover, oil and debris. Let ears dry completely 30-60 mins, or less. Then tape right back up with fresh posts. Quote:
Originally Posted by doberkim 5. Who did the crop? Where are they located? | Dr. Anne Platt. Montana (not sure exactly where). Quote:
Originally Posted by doberkim 6. Is there something you would change about your method? | No, it worked great for me. And Red was cooperative due to receiving very high value treats for sitting nicely for posting. Quote:
Originally Posted by doberkim 7. Immediately after the crop, were your pups ears taped over the head, or did you ues a cup, or foam? | The breeder used a cup. Quote:
Originally Posted by doberkim Anything else? | Always post through teething! If the ears lean at all, keep posting. You'd rather post too long than not long enough.
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10-18-2007, 12:27 AM
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| | Alpha | Quote:
Originally Posted by doberkim We have a ton of questions all the time, especially with newposters and new doberman owners and heck, I will soon be posting my own dog for the first time (though I have posted others). Might as well make this as thorough as possible, right?
1. How old was your pup when cropped?
2. How long did you post your pup before the ears stood?
3. Would you consider this a short/military, medium/pet, or long/show crop?
4. What method did you use for posting? What materials did you use? pipe insulation? tampons? Glue? Backtaping?
5. Who did the crop? Where are they located?
6. Is there something you would change about your method?
7. Immediately after the crop, were your pups ears taped over the head, or did you ues a cup, or foam?
| OK, I'm answering for a bunch of different puppies here...
1. between 8-10 weeks
2. the shortest time I've had to post was 10 days, the longest was about 13 months
3. long show crops
4. tampons/zonas tape, caulking rod/zonas tape, molefoam/skinbond
5. Dr. Jezbera, Riverside CA. Ann Platt (traveled to breeder)
6. no
7. some were taped over the head, some had cups
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10-18-2007, 10:00 AM
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| | Alpha
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| 1. How old was your pup when cropped?
7 weeks
2. How long did you post your pup before the ears stood?
They stood after about 2 months, but I left them posted until he was finished teething and continue using breathe right strips to support the tips ( currently the situation)
3. Would you consider this a short/military, medium/pet, or long/show crop?
Medium crop, but its a bit longer than a normal medium it would seem
4. What method did you use for posting? What materials did you use? pipe insulation? tampons? Glue? Backtaping?
Tampons and tape
5. Who did the crop? Where are they located?
The breeder had it done, but it was somewhere in London ontario
6. Is there something you would change about your method?
It was the first time that I had done it, but by the end I was pretty good at my method, so no I don't think so. It sure was frustrating at the beginning though!
7. Immediately after the crop, were your pups ears taped over the head, or did you ues a cup, or foam?
Foam, which didnt last very long.... |
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10-20-2007, 12:03 PM
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| | Alpha | 1. How old was your pup when cropped? 12 wks, 15 wks
2. How long did you post your pup before the ears stood? 2 mos, 2 1/2 mos
3. Would you consider this a short/military, medium/pet, or long/show crop? Medium Show Crop
4. What method did you use for posting? What materials did you use? pipe insulation? tampons? Glue? Backtaping? I think rolled cotton & tape or backtaped - not really quite sure, vet did retape each week
5. Who did the crop? Where are they located? Dr. La Bounty, Studio City, CA
6. Is there something you would change about your method? No. He did 3 of my Dobes, all excellent results
7. Immediately after the crop, were your pups ears taped over the head, or did you ues a cup, or foam? over the head |
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10-20-2007, 12:22 PM
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| | Big Pup
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| 1. How old was your pup when cropped? 8 Weeks
2. How long did you post your pup before the ears stood? About three months
3. Would you consider this a short/military, medium/pet, or long/show crop? Show Crop
4. What method did you use for posting? What materials did you use? pipe insulation? tampons? Glue? Backtaping? used the 3/4 inch diameter foam insulation, back taped with medical adhesive tape to hold in place in ear, then used medical paper tape on outside of ear, it is light weight and breathes, usually falls off in about 3-5 days.
5. Who did the crop? Where are they located? Don't know except that Ray Carlisle (Cara Dobes) has the same vet do all his puppies. I believe it's a woman vet he has flown in from somewhere.
6. Is there something you would change about your method? Nope, it worked like a charm.
7. Immediately after the crop, were your pups ears taped over the head, or did you ues a cup, or foam? Wrigley came to us with a cup on his head.
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