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Anyone else having gas issues on Acana food? We are feeding the Wild Prairie. Both dogs love it, but T has such horrendous, awful, eye-watering gas (which he emits with stunning skill and sense of timing) that I may have to switch him. I mean, it's impacting our LIVES!! LOL
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I just ordered Acana Grasslands...
I'm going to switch Zarah from TOW. SO I hope she would not have the gas. Let's see what happen
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My dogs are on Acana Wild Prarie. My husky never has gas issues on whatever food I put her on, but the dobe always has stinky gas on EVERY kibble he has been on!
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Different dogs react differently to various foods. My girls are on Acana Prarie and neither one has gas.

If its really bad, maybe you should try a different kibble.




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I think I may try switching him. The Lab could eat a bowl of nails at every meal and have a great coat and no stomach issues, I swear!!
I know all dogs are different, but was just curious if others had been having this smelly little issue.

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Well, Jack is on the puppy stuff, so obviously a little different, but it's definitely wreaking havoc on his gut. Loads of farts, and soft stools. Getting better though.

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Baron has been on Acana Prairie for about 2 months now and no gas to speak. I give him a tablespoon or 2 of wet food every other day or so and he does have gas from that. But I am on the last can of Innova canned and then going to quit giving him canned food. Will supplement with some chicken or beef every now and then.

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Mine is switching over to Acana Pacifica. I am transitioning him SUPER slow and so far he hasn't gotten gassy or had loose/soft stool. I'm certain it's mostly anecdotal, but I was told by a few people that if you switch slow enough almost all food will be tolerated. I couldn't say if this is true but it seems to be for Teufel.

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I sometimes wonder if it is gas from the extra protein in the tablespoon of canned food he gets. Guess I'll try eliminating that. Let the investigation begin!

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Generally gas and soft stool on Acana is caused by too much food.

Because of the composition of the food, unlike with high starch/high carb foods, the body just gets rid of the excess. If you're going by what's on the bag, you're probably feeding too much.

Try cutting the food by a third for a week and see what happens. If you're still having issues, you may want to switch directly to the adult - after 16 weeks it's perfectly safe, large breeds are capable of controlling their calcium absorption on their own.

We run a rescue and we've never had a dog that couldn't eat Orijen or Acana and didn't have small, rock hard stools - almost like raw poops but the wrong colour. :O)

Put it this way - my working cattle dogs eat just under 2 cups a day. My active 80lb retriever eats 2 cups a day of Orijen, 1 3/4 during the spring and fall when the weather is wet and muddy and we're not that active. Even Acana small breed recommends almost a cup for a 3kg dog.

The recommendations on the bag are calculated by AAFCO, not the company. Unfortunately, the calculation that is used to determine feeding amounts was never meant to apply to foods like Acana, Orijen, Evo, Instinct, etc. ALL foods are over-estimated, but if a food like Dog Chow recommends too much food, you can imagine what that same recommendation would do for a food that provides another 100-200kcal/cup of food and is highly digestible in comparison.

Hope that helps. For the record, I have no connection to any of these companies, but I've been grain free for going on 13 years, from raw to home made to kibble, and a few things have become clear. It definitely produces the best results, and AAFCO has no idea how to deal with these foods.

Best of luck, and good health to all you pups!!
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It's also possible that the Acana has too high of a protein content for your pup's stomach. No two dogs are the same when it comes to feeding requirements and I really believe that finding the right dog food is a combination of science and art. You could attempt to feed less, as has been suggested, to see if that has an impact, or you could switch to another, lower protein kibble, and see if that helps. Gas can also be indicative of a food sensitivity so changing the formula as opposed to the brand/protein level may also be helpful.

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I'm just wondering, for those who feed Acana, what does your adult dog eat on average per day?

Since Dillons been neutered he seems to be eating a lot more, up to 5-6 cups a day. He is still a good weight at 78lbs, but I am worried he may be overeating a bit and want him to stay lean.

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I feed Naavi about 2.5 cups of Acana Pacifica per day. She's about ten months right now and 60lbs.

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babysweet--I 100% agree that the recommended portions on the bag are high. My lab, as a senior, gets only a cup a day as opposed to the 3 cups recommended on the label. She is a healthy weight, if a little heavy, and never "begs" for more.

I am also going to gradually cut his amount down just a tad. The label recommends 2.5 C a day, but as he still eats 3x a day it doesn't seem like much. The canned food may be on its way out as well, since he eats perfectly well without it and it's an extra, albeit small, expense for me.

Another thing that just occurred to me is the fact that he completely freaking inhales his food!! Nothing we do seems to change this. I feed him out of sight of our other dog (opposite side of kitchen island) but no matter. It's like he's in a race! I'm sure this has some effect on his digestion. I'm unsure how to slow him down.

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Ripley is always a bit gassy no matter what food he's on, but it's very, very minimal with Acana. The only time he gets gassy with Acana is if he's eaten too much, or sometimes after a lot of exercise. Or if I mixed something in his food, but that's not Acana related, that's just his sensitive gut. Keira and Dance are not gassy at all on Acana, and never have been.

Pdubois, Ripley eats 4 cups a day of Acana Sport & Agility (a bit higher in calories than other formulas) and is a healthy 80lbs. Keira eats 2 cups a day of Pacifica (she's 60lbs).



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We feed Mocha Acana Wild Prarie as well. She gets 2 - 2.5 cups a day split between morning and supper. The recommendation on the bag is much higher than that and way more food than what she needed (when we first started her on it we went by the bag and she was having runny poops and was starting to put on a bit of weight).
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For gulpers I use a Brake Fast bowl. The medium size works best. If your dog eats more than fits in the bowl, break it into two portions. It will double their eating time.

The other option is to feed them their dinner in a toy like the Wobbler or a Kong, a Buster Cube, etc. I've tried other bowls like the Eat Better, but the Brake Fast is the best design I've found.
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Just started giving him his meals in the Kong Wobbler we have. Works like a charm, he loves it, and he's out of my hair for about 10 minutes.

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Moj was on Wild Prairie for quite a while...tho not a real gassy dog...having put him on the Grass Lands version in the last month...he's not gassy at all. Different strokes, I guess....I have a bag of Pacifica waiting for his next bag, and see if that works as well as the Grass Lands.

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Interesting to hear that you are all feeding your older/heavier pups about what the bag says to feed Tanner now, at 4.5 months and about 40 pounds. It's so hard to find what's right for each dog! Didn't know I was going to be "earning" my degree in animal nutrition. LOL

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Prime is on 5 cups a day of the Acana. It's working for him now as he is really lean and super active. I hope as time goes on that I will be able to significantly decrease the amount I am feeding him!
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Rocket does get gas sometimes from the Acana, but it's gone down since I started adding Prozyme to everything he eats.

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I'm just wondering, for those who feed Acana, what does your adult dog eat on average per day?

Since Dillons been neutered he seems to be eating a lot more, up to 5-6 cups a day. He is still a good weight at 78lbs, but I am worried he may be overeating a bit and want him to stay lean.
Rocket's almost two, and he was up to 6+ cups of that a day. He's still intact, though.

I switched him back to Orijen this week and he's already eating less.


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Hmmmm, I'll have to look up the Prozyme.

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