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2nd poop is runny

We take Dakota out first thing in the morning, she does her normal poop and pee, we go back inside and eat. Within another 10 minutes or so she usually poops again, at which point it's not as solid as the first one. She'll usually let out her normal hard poop, and at the end it comes out a little runny. Not like diarhea or anything like that, but it's a little hard to pick up. Is that something I should start to look into, or is that pretty normal? It's only if she poops twice in a short time, which is mostly morning time. All of her other poops are fine, which makes me think it's not the food or anything like that. We do give her a decent amount of carrots, apples, and other vegetables as treats at night, could that have something to do with it since the high water content? SHould we not give that kind of snack towards nite time?

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Natural food has more water in it.

for me 2nd poops are always more runny.
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Thanks for the response. I wasn't too concerned about it, since Like I said her other poops are fine. With it being the 2nd morning one, I just figured it was the apples and carrots coming out. It's also slightly more yellow, which would be undigested food, so makes total sense, just wanted to double check. THanks again.
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I have noticed this at times with my puppy but never with my 10 yr old Dobe. I have always suspected it was due to too much food being consumed such that he could not process it all. For example: If you overfeed a puppy you will get runny 2nd stools.
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A couple of my dogs, when out on an off leash walk, would produce the first firm poop, and then go two of three more times (longish walk), progressively more runny. I just figured that was the way it was. Hmmmm...........
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Wow. Loki always seems to have one solid poop followed by a much softer one 10min later (Usually if we are the park or walking) the vet said it was normal for his activity level. But just to make sure we are going to do a test next week. Im glad I am not the only one.
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The fish oil capsules I was giving Sofia produced softer stools and as I added more capsules, it became really loose and runny.. I posted on this forum and got some great advice. Stopped the fish oil..now she's as regular as she should be. She eats three cups of Kirkland Signature with a little bit of chicken added.. (three meals a day.) She can make a rawhide strip last a week...(never has been a chewer) and drinks two bowls of water.We thought the fish oil would be good for her.. evidently not..
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The fish oil capsules I was giving Sofia produced softer stools and as I added more capsules, it became really loose and runny.. I posted on this forum and got some great advice. Stopped the fish oil..now she's as regular as she should be. She eats three cups of Kirkland Signature with a little bit of chicken added.. (three meals a day.) She can make a rawhide strip last a week...(never has been a chewer) and drinks two bowls of water.We thought the fish oil would be good for her.. evidently not..
The fish oil could have been rancid too. That happens a lot and you have to watch your fish oils. Actually I am reading now how much better Krill Oil is for several different reasons.
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/ar...-fish-oil.aspx

And then again, your girl could just be sensitive to fish oil.

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Just wondering, what do you feed your dobe? These runny stools started when I switched to Orijen.
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This happens to Eros as well, First poop firm followed by softer stool. We asked the vet and she said it was normal too... we did a stool test too just incase but he's all good
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Thanks guys. I was pretty much 100% positive that it was fine and normal, just get a lil paranoid when it comes to my lil girl!
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Just wondering, what do you feed your dobe? These runny stools started when I switched to Orijen.
Orijen is a high protein kibble and some Dobe's do really well on it and others seem to get get the runny stools on it. It is entirely up to the dog, did you gradually switch when you put your pup on Orijen>?

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yes the switch occurred over a week and a half, so should i stay with orijen or get another kibble? also would adding canned food ( like a wellness topper or something else) help his stools get firmer??
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yes the switch occurred over a week and a half, so should i stay with orijen or get another kibble? also would adding canned food ( like a wellness topper or something else) help his stools get firmer??
You might try cutting back on the food and see if that helps. Too much food causes runny stools and Orijen is pretty stout food.

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Runny 2nd Poops

While I have a Sheltie, not a Doberman, I was happy to find your discussion here. What I gather from the discussion here is that it's related to "too much food"....I have suspected that for awhile. The two things that seem to contribute are 1) more than 1/3 cup of Calif Natural at a feeding and 2) crappy dog treats. I'm training a new Corgi and the tiny treats are ever present. The Sheltie nuzzles up during the training and gets way too many of these. Also a neighbor passes out cheap milk bones and that seems to contribute also. I am going to limit feeding and cut off ALL treats (maybe a few yogurt treats?). Also we'll bypass the neighbor who fills him with milk bones. Thank you for providing some insight!
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Our 4 year old Pom has this problem. I've often wondered if it's more because we take her out, she poops, we take her out again, and she poops. I can't imagine she's really "ready" to poop about 30 minutes later. I've suspected there may be some forcing going on, leading it to be runny?
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I don't think i updated, but it's been quite some time... Switched to wellness, never had any runny poops after that.
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I didn't see this thread the first time around, but I'm fascinated -- because it perfectly describes Jack's pooping pattern when on walks. One nice, easy-to-pick-up poop, then five or 10 minutes later, a second -- smaller -- one that is runny, and sometimes even a third that is much smaller and even runnier.

It definitely isn't from eating too much. Jack isn't a great eater and often skips meals almost entirely. We've been blaming it on training treats and experimenting with different treats and with cutting down on treats and using only toy rewards, but this hasn't made a noticeable difference. Reading that others' dogs do the same thing eases my worries somewhat.
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looking at it from a biological perspective.....the runny poops quite likely haven't been sitting in the colon (lower digestive tract) for as long. The colon is where water is absorbed from the stools making them firm. Exercise stimulates peristalsis (movement through the tract) therefore once the firmer stools have been cleared, the softer ones will move down through the tract and if peristalsis continues to be stimulated the urge to evacuate might come prior to sufficient water being absorbed to make the stool firm. (evacuation could also be a form of marking territory).

Whilst excess food could create this situation....it's not necessarily the only cause. You could also try letting the dog out to poop and a short time of exercise (less than the time for a second poop)...then a rest/sleep so those stools could "park" in the colon and be dehydrated before going out for a big walk/exercise.

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My girl has always done the second poop soft. I have added a tsp of cottage cheese with her evening meal and for the first time ever she has had firm all the time. I have no logic behind this. Just thought I would mention it.
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