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Old 08-06-2009, 02:28 PM   #26 (permalink)
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She's beautiful! I LOVE the sweet face shot, I'm so happy Amanda requested it.

I understand if you're showing re: the tail but for the non-showing reasons, I agree that it'd be nice sometimes to see a little more wagging at you. Of course I'm used to very long, furry waving tails so I'm still getting used to the adorable nubbin wags.
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Old 08-06-2009, 02:45 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Old 08-06-2009, 05:24 PM   #29 (permalink)
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What a beautiful girly girl! You have done an awesome job training her to stand and stack. Wish I was that fortunate! I better not show Icon her pictures....he might just fall in love =) You can tell she's very athletic!
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She's really coming along beautifully!!! You're becoming better and better at stacking too. I just now feel like I'm starting to understand it!!!
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What doest "stacked" mean? Sorry if its a noob question, but it looks like she is just standing there. Is there a special way for the dog to stand?

BTW, awesome looking dog!
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you should come. I'd love to see you! and Atia ( who for the record.. i have YET to meet)
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What a beautiful girly girl! You have done an awesome job training her to stand and stack. Wish I was that fortunate! I better not show Icon her pictures....he might just fall in love =) You can tell she's very athletic!
Funny you should say athlethic ... it's like she never just WALKS anywhere, she leaps and trots and BOUNCES lol Although, she's been gettinginto the habit of leaping off the patio and other structures like she's dock diving, which worries me sometimes that she's going to just fall hard one day and break something! Puppies! I think she has great potential to be an awesom agility dog though

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She's really coming along beautifully!!! You're becoming better and better at stacking too. I just now feel like I'm starting to understand it!!!
You're starting to understand it??? I still have no idea what the heck i'm doing half the time LOL You're waaaaaaaay ahead of me in the game This showing thing is TOUGH!

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What doest "stacked" mean? Sorry if its a noob question, but it looks like she is just standing there. Is there a special way for the dog to stand?

BTW, awesome looking dog!
Well, i'm probably not the best person to explain it, but stacking a dog i suppose is the certain way that you "pose" them to best show off their structure in order to evaluate them according to the breed standard. At least that's how i understand it! What you see in the pics as her "just standing there" is actually the culmination of many, many hours of patiently teaching her to place her feet in a specific way, how to lean forward, how to hold her head, and of course, how to hold it all in place without fidgeting! And i'm only doing a half-decent job of it! It's lovely to watch a gorgeous dobe being stacked by a real pro
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Well, fingers crossed that the weather is gorgeous on SAturday and Atia gets to come along! I'm sure she'll be thrilled to meet her Auntie Leanne!



Funny you should say athlethic ... it's like she never just WALKS anywhere, she leaps and trots and BOUNCES lol Although, she's been gettinginto the habit of leaping off the patio and other structures like she's dock diving, which worries me sometimes that she's going to just fall hard one day and break something! Puppies! I think she has great potential to be an awesom agility dog though



You're starting to understand it??? I still have no idea what the heck i'm doing half the time LOL You're waaaaaaaay ahead of me in the game This showing thing is TOUGH!



Well, i'm probably not the best person to explain it, but stacking a dog i suppose is the certain way that you "pose" them to best show off their structure in order to evaluate them according to the breed standard. At least that's how i understand it! What you see in the pics as her "just standing there" is actually the culmination of many, many hours of patiently teaching her to place her feet in a specific way, how to lean forward, how to hold her head, and of course, how to hold it all in place without fidgeting! And i'm only doing a half-decent job of it! It's lovely to watch a gorgeous dobe being stacked by a real pro
Gotcha.. I saw stacked, and figured there were 3 dogs laying on top of each other or something...stacked up.. lol

Is there a word you use so she knows how to position herself for you? I wouldnt even know where to start training a puppy to do that... Mine has about a 3 second attention span!

Kudos for all of the hard work, she looks great!
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[quote=ENS;483790]Gotcha.. I saw stacked, and figured there were 3 dogs laying on top of each other or something...stacked up.. lol
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too funny! never thought of what it would mean to someone who doesn't know about showing.
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Nice. What are her lines?
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Gotcha.. I saw stacked, and figured there were 3 dogs laying on top of each other or something...stacked up.. lol

Is there a word you use so she knows how to position herself for you? I wouldnt even know where to start training a puppy to do that... Mine has about a 3 second attention span!

Kudos for all of the hard work, she looks great!
Thanks!! Hard work is right LOL, i gotta tip my hat off to the pros, they make it look so easy! Right now her command to "assume the pose" is "show", but i still help her out with other little commands that tell her to move herself/her feet this way or that, and commands for her to stay still and keep her attention on me. The goal is eventually when i say "show", she'll just automatically stack herself the proper way. We're getting there!

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She's an Ambermark pup! Here's a link to her pedigree: http://www.angelfire.com/ga/ambermark/DEVAHERO.htm
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are you coming for sure then on saturday love? because I would like that.

Also, do you want my chicken? I posted about it somewhere else but it got lost... I have a wack load of chicken from RAW.. I NEED to get rid of it...Kyle is having a fit about the freezer.
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are you coming for sure then on saturday love? because I would like that.

Also, do you want my chicken? I posted about it somewhere else but it got lost... I have a wack load of chicken from RAW.. I NEED to get rid of it...Kyle is having a fit about the freezer.
Yes, i'm coming on Saturday, barring a freak downpour or other whacky weather! Now i have to figure out how to get there ... i hate the 401 blah ...

I saw your chicken thread! I would gladly relieve you of your chicken (gosh that sounds so weird hahaha) but: 1. I don't have an appropriate cooler to contain and transport it and 2. I'm having freezer space issues myself! With two dogs now the freezer is almost always full! Are all your chicken in big pieces??
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its all in 2-3lb baggies...all individually packed.

Marlee might be interested too, but its been awhile since i"ve heard from her!
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OMG... how beautiful she is!

Haha... I wonder where all the food goes too
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[quote=ENS;483790]Gotcha.. I saw stacked, and figured there were 3 dogs laying on top of each other or something...stacked up.. lol

OH MY!!LMAO!!!!That made my day!!!
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its all in 2-3lb baggies...all individually packed.

Marlee might be interested too, but its been awhile since i"ve heard from her!
Individually packed is good, then it'll probably fit in my freezer! Problem is, i still don't have an appropriate cooler to transport it all back

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She's looookiiiingg gooood!!!!

Finally you update us with pictures LOL
Yes, i know, i've been remiss ... but she's a puppy and she takes up all of my time (whatever time i have left after spending it on Dante, work, the kitties, life in general ... and oh yeah let's not forget The Husband :p), so i have an excuse! :p
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Old 08-07-2009, 05:25 PM   #45 (permalink)
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You can see the work you have put into training Atia, congrats, it really shows! That tail does throw off the balance. It's hard to tell from pics, but the ear crop appears shorter too...surely you will finish her, but those are the small things that ruin the overall look of a special, I think. We placed our lovely Fergie because her ear crop was just too short, and it really took away from her head and overall look. Your breeder may say it's only cosmetic but it depends on what you are looking to do down the road.

I thought you were looking for a competitive obedience dog though or did I miss something ?
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i have to say, I personally am NOT a fan of the gigantically tall ears. I think that they just look ridiculous and I hate that they bounce around when the dogs trot.

I definitely agree about the tail though... especially after seeing it, I would definitely consider getting it re docked
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Very nice - you're doing a good job with her!

I did re-do a tail on a 9 month old male years ago. The breeder had seen him when he was 6 months old at some shows and felt it really took away from him but he tended to pull it up and over (kinda a gay tail). It was a major surgery made worse by him chewing out stitches twice. They finally trimmed more tissue and wired it. It healed beautifully and looked great! Ultimately I was glad I re-did it.

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You can see the work you have put into training Atia, congrats, it really shows! That tail does throw off the balance. It's hard to tell from pics, but the ear crop appears shorter too...surely you will finish her, but those are the small things that ruin the overall look of a special, I think. We placed our lovely Fergie because her ear crop was just too short, and it really took away from her head and overall look. Your breeder may say it's only cosmetic but it depends on what you are looking to do down the road.

I thought you were looking for a competitive obedience dog though or did I miss something ?
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i have to say, I personally am NOT a fan of the gigantically tall ears. I think that they just look ridiculous and I hate that they bounce around when the dogs trot.
I think her ear crop looks just nice on her, not too long, not too short, and frames her pretty face very nicely I'll try to post a head shot soon now that she's out of posts (yay lol). I have to agree with Leanne that i really don't like the super long show crops, in my opinion they just take away from the face/head. I'm happy that her breeder feels the same way about ear crops lol! The black pups in the litter also had less ear leather than their red counterparts (the black pups were all way smaller starting out, it was like two different litters!), so they did what they could with the ear cropping and i must say i'm not unhappy with it

Yes, i wanted a competitive performance dog, in addition to a dog that can get its championship relatively easily. I wanted a ROMC Dobe! Atia is going to start being shown starting in September, and i'm already working on obedience and agility basics with her. She's catching up very fast and i think has the potential to make a great performance dog that looks really pretty as well

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I definitely agree about the tail though... especially after seeing it, I would definitely consider getting it re docked
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I did re-do a tail on a 9 month old male years ago. The breeder had seen him when he was 6 months old at some shows and felt it really took away from him but he tended to pull it up and over (kinda a gay tail). It was a major surgery made worse by him chewing out stitches twice. They finally trimmed more tissue and wired it. It healed beautifully and looked great! Ultimately I was glad I re-did it.

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Ahhh the tail. Well, latest news: her breeder has decided to get it redocked!!!!!! I'm really happy about it, even though i wish she didn't have to go through all that discomfort. Still, i'm going to be 100% happier with her tail once it has been redocked. The breeder likes how she's turning out and i think also feels that the tail is taking away from her. We're going to have the redocking done after Atia returns from the American Nationals; we didn't want to have to have her dealing with healing from a redock while on the road. I have to admit, i can't wait for that tail to be redone!!!!!!!!!!!!
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im really glad to hear that! I think it will make a big difference in her overall appearance. Now, I don't know too much really, but I find Atia to be a very balanced and compact dog.. I thought that the tail just threw it all off.

poor little girly. I'll bet Dante is excited for some time alone with Mom. Have you told him yet that brat sister is leaving?
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