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Old 07-01-2009, 11:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
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well we just moved which took forever because most landlords wouldnt allow a doberman. we found one place and my dad told me he could not come inside at all. while my dad is at work which is everyday from 10am-11pm ill definitely let him inside. what is the best toy u see that keeps your pup happy and occupied. he has many toys but i want to buy him a couple more since i cant be outside all the time to keep him company. i also have another question. since he has to sleep outside, what is the best way to keep him comfortable?
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DO you have a fenced yard? If so build or Buy a nice sized dog house and fill it with nice blankets. How long have you owned your dog? How old is he? SO sad he cannot 'live' in the house.
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Dobermans are inside dogs period, they just don't do well either physically or emotionally outside. They need protection from both the cold and the heat and they are a velcro dog that needs to be with their people. You will have nothing but problems leaving your dog outside.
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yes the yard is fenced. ive had the pup since he was 10 weeks. i feel so bad because hes always slept in bed with me. my dad doesnt like the idea and doesnt care for animals but doesnt hate him. he loves to play with the dog. i was living with my mom before so she didnt have this rule.
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would letting him have access to the yard and inside while my dad is at work then crating him inside the house during the night be ok? because before moving i was crating him to potty train.
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would letting him have access to the yard and inside while my dad is at work then crating him inside the house during the night be ok? because before moving i was crating him to potty train.
If your dad does not want him inside the house, I wouldn't do it. You're setting yourself up for trouble that way. It sounds like right now is honestly not the best time to add a Doberman. Perhaps you can add one when you have your own place, down the road, where the dog can live inside the house with you without restriction.
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um.... i already have a doberman. since ive had to stay at my friends' house with my dog he stayed outside. i was outside always playing with him and he slept outside with no problem except for the first day. what im trying to say is since this will be a new place for him i want him to be comfortable his first night.
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Can you get a place on your own? Or can the dog live with your mother? I agree, dobermans are people dogs and need to be indoors; especially at night and during inclimate weather.
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try the everlasting treat ball toy... i will love seeing my puppy working at it..
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So what part of the country to you live? where is the dog actually sleeping at night? deck? porch? on the ground? Do you have animals around your house where your dog might get into trouble or hurt?
I think you will find many, many posts on this forum about dobers as outside dogs....why couldn't you crate him at night inside the house?
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all of you people are going completely off topic.. how about just helping the poor person with what toys to keep their dog occupied instead of interrogating the poor person..

At least they arent rehoming and are keen on doing the best they can in their situation...


on topic - kongs, maybe make some frozen pupsicles (freeze some raw meat and some kibble in a giant ice cube), maybe a hanging rope toy for him to tug on during the day, you could also hide some treats around the yard in different spots, that will keep him occupied for a bit.

as for comfort, I have found many dogs in australia enjoy the canine hammock, its very comfy.. However the climate here is nowhere near as extreme there so kennels arent usually needed here (winter temp at lowest is 8 degrees celcius where i am.. during the day its between 12-16 degrees in winter).

If raised properly and given lots of attention and training dobermans can and do live outside as well as other dogs.. They are not leeches and if introduced to a strict household they tend to do very well. Many people assume an outside dog means it gets no attention, but I know of many dog owners who have outside dogs and spend way more time and paying much more attention to their dogs than what many inside dogs get..

i think people humanize dogs too much and forget that they are not human, no matter how "human" they may act.. They are dogs all the same, and much like many dogs, they can adapt fairly well to new situations if introduced correctly and positively..
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all of you people are going completely off topic.. how about just helping the poor person with what toys to keep their dog occupied instead of interrogating the poor person..

At least they arent rehoming and are keen on doing the best they can in their situation...

The people are just trying to look out for the welfare of the doberman in question. They are right, dobermans are NOT outside dogs, especially puppies. They are mentally/physically active dogs, keeping them outside is just setting them up for behavioral/health problems.

Honestly.... and no one wants to actually hear it, but perhaps in this dog's situation, the best thing for it is to be rehomed and the OP tries the breed again if he wishes in the future when he is set up for it.

Long term foster is another options. perhaps another family member can pupsit until other living arrangements are made?

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The people are just trying to look out for the welfare of the doberman in question. They are right, dobermans are NOT outside dogs, especially puppies. They are mentally/physically active dogs, keeping them outside is just setting them up for behavioral/health problems.

Honestly.... and no one wants to actually hear it, but perhaps in this dog's situation, the best thing for it is to be rehomed and the OP tries the breed again if he wishes in the future when he is set up for it.

Long term foster is another options. perhaps another family member can pupsit until other living arrangements are made?
Thanks Lexus, I actually felt bad for what I posted for the op, it was posted with the long-term interest of the pup. As far as a toy the pup would be happy with an old tennis ball or stick and his person, what he needs is to be an actual part of the family and to share the house with them. I don't think any dog does real well as an outside dog but the problems and long-term consequences really multiply with a dobe and especially a puppy.
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The people are just trying to look out for the welfare of the doberman in question. They are right, dobermans are NOT outside dogs, especially puppies. They are mentally/physically active dogs, keeping them outside is just setting them up for behavioral/health problems.

Honestly.... and no one wants to actually hear it, but perhaps in this dog's situation, the best thing for it is to be rehomed and the OP tries the breed again if he wishes in the future when he is set up for it.

Long term foster is another options. perhaps another family member can pupsit until other living arrangements are made?
I totally agree. If the pup is still young, which I think he is, leaving him outside at night, all alone with no protection from outside threats, I fear for the pup. He's too young to be left alone, especially outside.

OP - I am sorry that you're having a rough time with your little one. I hope it all works out for you both.
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thank you rashima, the only person that stuck to the topic. like what rashima said my dad thinks a dog is an animal not a person so it should live outside. he loves the dog but that is just one of his rules. the yard is safe from any danger. he has a dog house a dog bed and toys waiting for him in the yard. this is the same situation if he were to be in the house. when we leave home hell be the only one around that makes it no different then being in a yard but in the yard he has space to run around and play. not allowing him to stay inside doesnt mean i wont give him any attention. i spend more time on my dog than school work and sports. some people say i even baby him way too much. i just wanted to know what toy would keep him busy and happy for when i am not around to play with him.
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The people are just trying to look out for the welfare of the doberman in question. They are right, dobermans are NOT outside dogs, especially puppies. They are mentally/physically active dogs, keeping them outside is just setting them up for behavioral/health problems.

Honestly.... and no one wants to actually hear it, but perhaps in this dog's situation, the best thing for it is to be rehomed and the OP tries the breed again if he wishes in the future when he is set up for it.

Long term foster is another options. perhaps another family member can pupsit until other living arrangements are made?
My exact thoughts. What does a doberman puppy need to keep him busy? His human. I've seen the devistation that no to little human contact has done. Doberman's are people dogs, not to be left by themselves for long amounts of time (10am-11pm). What hours you are gone from home? With this being said, a doberman is a working breed, if he is left to his own demise, your backyard will be dug up and the fence will be chewed into pieces because of boredom and lack of work.

Also, where do you live? I live in TX, and the summer is too hot for a doberman, and the winter is too cold for a doberman. Dobermans are not outside dogs.

Could you get your own place, can your mom keep the dog? A friend? If the dog is kept in the yard by himself for long amounts of time, I feel the situation is going from bad to worse.
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kpablo it seems you dont understand that the dog will only be alone when i am asleep or busy doing somthing.
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kpablo it seems you dont understand that the dog will only be alone when i am asleep or busy doing somthing.
So your going to sit in the backyard when your not asleep and not busy doing something?

Well, good luck with that. (not being sarcastic)
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what other reason would i have bought a dog? you make it seem that it is just the backyard that makes the dog unhappy and crazy when left alone. when you go to work or have things to do, you leave your dog inside right? what makes the house a better environment for the dog. in the back yard the dog can run around with much more space instead of being cooped up in a house while youre gone. i wanted a dog to play and run with and he gets that everyday.
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A good toy for him would be an outdoor ac unit or outdoor heater.
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I'm not so sure that wouldn't be better. Sorry.

OP, the dog is going to be unhappy. Maybe even more unhappy since you will bring it in with you and then abandon it back to the yard when your dad is there. Dobermans don't do well being treated like a farm animal.
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OP, the dog is going to be unhappy. Maybe even more unhappy since you will bring it in with you and then abandon it back to the yard when your dad is there. Dobermans don't do well being treated like a farm animal.[/quote]

haha wow you still cant get it through your head. the dog isnt going to abandoned when my dad is home. i spend most of my day playing with my dog and my dad doesnt just walk by him as if he were invisible he also plays with him. worst group of people to ask questions to... seriously.
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Dobermans are inside dogs period, they just don't do well either physically or emotionally outside. They need protection from both the cold and the heat and they are a velcro dog that needs to be with their people. You will have nothing but problems leaving your dog outside.
So true. I know from first hand experience, and that is the one of the biggest reason for me to not getting another Dobie for a while.

One suggestion I can give you is if you have a garage turn it into a "dog house" and take your sleeping material their and live their with your dog.

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OP, the dog is going to be unhappy. Maybe even more unhappy since you will bring it in with you and then abandon it back to the yard when your dad is there. Dobermans don't do well being treated like a farm animal.
haha wow you still cant get it through your head. the dog isnt going to abandoned when my dad is home. i spend most of my day playing with my dog and my dad doesnt just walk by him as if he were invisible he also plays with him. worst group of people to ask questions to... seriously.[/quote]

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what other reason would i have bought a dog? you make it seem that it is just the backyard that makes the dog unhappy and crazy when left alone. when you go to work or have things to do, you leave your dog inside right? what makes the house a better environment for the dog. in the back yard the dog can run around with much more space instead of being cooped up in a house while youre gone. i wanted a dog to play and run with and he gets that everyday.
Backyard isn't exactly a safe place for the dog to be... People are messed up. They might try to steal your dog. He might get himself into a lot of trouble at night. He might be even get bored and start destroying certain spots he choose. If someone were to enter your yard at night and the dog bites them, your dog will be paying the price for something you could have worked with.

Trust me, the people are helping and it's up to you to understand it from whatever your point of view. I know all of this from first hand experience. My girl was an outside dog as well because my parents didn't want her in, but I took her in all the time anyways, and slowly she won my parents heart to a point where they wouldn't mind if she was in the whole day or what. It wrecked my girl inside, she was really defensive and insecure. We are just looking out for the dog and you....rest is up to you....sorry for telling my own story, you probably didn't like it that I ALSO went off topic.

Try a kong filled with treats and seal it with peanut butter and freeze it overnight.
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