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Sudden outbursts of aggression

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#1 ·
Hi all,I have a 11 month old dober girl named Kira and a 9 years old miniature schnauzer named Nala,they usually get along pretty well,we feed them separately and separate them when giving toys or other high value items.Today morning I came to let Kira out of her crate and Nala was behind me and Kira came after her and pinned her to ground with intense growling.In the afternoon my mom came home and both girls went to say hi,as Nala approached my mom Kira had the same reaction as described before,luckily she didn't hurt Nala and after both situations I gave Kira a sharp NO proceeded with a time-out and I completely ignored her.Just to mention that both situations are a part of their routine,it'the same every day and so far there were no problems,I can't say whether it's jealousy or SSA,although she doesn't show it towards other bitches she hangs out with daily.At this moment I'm pretty stressed as I obviously can't predict when will the next incident happen :(
Just to say that they normally interacted and played between that two situations,sorry for such a long post and thank you for reading it all.
 
#2 ·
Having been in the unfortunate situation of managing an SSA household, my advice at this point is simple: You must be extremely attentive and vigilant. The two girls should never be left alone. In fact there is a good possibility they may end up never being allowed free around each other, period.

If it is Same Sex Aggression in a developing stage, one full blown attack, and you'll be in a crate and rotate situation. Trust me, its no fun.

On the chance that is is more of a guarding situation, the sad fact is that a doberman, even at only 1 yo is easily capable of maiming or even killing a smaller dog in a matter of seconds. Before you have a chance to react. This is even if it is unintentional.

I hope this all works out for you

John
Portland OR
 
#3 ·
Just 5 mins ago Kira again almost attacked Nala,I managed to prevent it in a last second,now I'm torn between what to do,we were in a living room,Nala walked by and Kira jumped on her,I can't believe how all changed today,from a great home atmosphere to this :(
 
#6 ·
As I looked through your posts it looks like you've been dealing with different aggression issues for a while. I would def. consult a behaviorist as well as a trainer. Also, what kennel did you purchase your puppy from? I'm not familiar with European lines as much but I'll do some research and see what pulls up.
 
#7 ·
Yeah,when we first got Kira she was scared of literally anything,so it took me nearly two months to be able to go on a normal walk with her,we're dealing with resource guarding against other dogs and her anxiety around other dogs in general,I've already found a certified behaviorist and will contact her as soon as I come back home.I got her from Bestanera kennel.
 
#9 ·
Yes I know about that case and it's my fault for not doing better research when buying Kira,I definitely know better now but when I read it I already had her and already went through a lot with her,desentitizing her to cars,dogs,people (everything you can think of) and I somehow feared how her character will turn out and it seems that it's not going well....
 
#11 ·
Yeah,we're seriously considering it,we'll ask them if they're willing to take her,we don't want to stress Nala and of course Kira also feels our tension in the house so that also might contribute to already bad situation,but it sure is overwhelming how things turn upside down in a day,no signals or body language to show it in advance,it just escalates.
 
#12 ·
I want to pose one further question to you..... If Kira has not yet been spayed, is it possible that she is coming into her first heat? I have only owned a handful of females over the years and none were Dobermans. All my Dobes have been dogs. However, I have heard many anecdotal experiences of young bitches acting out in their first couple of cycles.

Perhaps a more experienced owner could chime in on this.
 
#13 ·
She was in her first heat a month ago and those hormons definitely made a difference,just as her first cycle finished we noticed slight changes in her behaviour towards other dogs,she became picky and clearly shows when dogs are annoying her,but we only noticed it on our walks,she was the same to Nala as she was before heat.
 
#14 ·
Heat did make a difference to my girl Kita too thats why i got her spayed at 18 months old rather than 2 yrs old as per my original plan.

Something you may want to consider is also resource guarding the humans against Nala. This will usually happens when humans are near her and another dogs approaches to greet or even just walking past. I am not a behaviorist so do take my opinion with a pinch of salt.
 
#15 ·
Thank you guys so much for your help and efforts,just to give you an update on the situation,now everything's fine,they play nicely,Kira gives her kisses and is back to her old self however we don't leave the two of them alone and we're watching them like hawks and of course I'll hire a biheviorist when I come back home
 
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