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Old 06-30-2008, 12:13 AM   #1 (permalink)
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How much should a 5 month old Doberman male weigh?

Trooper weighs 45 pounds at 5 months. Is this the correct size?

Also, he won't stay outside and play. He jumps on the door. We've tried telling him, "No!", but it doesn't even phase him. Y'all have any ideas?
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Old 06-30-2008, 12:38 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Someone else will chime in with the weight issue...but that sounds normal to me. About the jumping on the door issue...are you inside and you want him to play outside? If you're inside, he's going to want to be inside with you. You'll have to go out there and play with him LOL!
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Old 06-30-2008, 12:51 AM   #3 (permalink)
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^^True.

I also wanted to mention that he is 24" at the shoulder. Is this correct for his age? His dad, Wolfgang Maximillian Fox, is a Finnish imported Doberman that weighs around 100 pounds and stands 28" at the shoulder.

Do y'all think Trooper will get that big? (I'd like him to be that big. It's not a negative thing.)

We have him on "Nutro Controlled Growth Formula" puppy food. It's supposed to make the growing process a little bit longer so that the dog's bones can get strong enough to support the weight. It's a good food, and I'd recommend it thoroughly. It's all natural, with no by-products in it.
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Old 06-30-2008, 02:33 AM   #4 (permalink)
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height and weight sound ok to me.

you never know the height they are gonna be.. you will just have to wait till he is 2 !! be patient lol.

i have found out that what the parents are is not alwyas what the pup will be.. zeus parents were normal, he is now going on 30 tall !!and i think still growing !!!

if hes out you will have to be out LOl

they dont call them velcro for no reason LOL !!!
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Old 06-30-2008, 03:43 AM   #5 (permalink)
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i agree that if you want him to play outside you will have to go out there with him, however i dont think this means you should tolerate him jumping up on the door.

i have trained calvin to stop jumping at the door (it DESTROYS screen doors VERY FAST lol). doesnt mean he doesnt sit at the door sometimes wishing i would come play (if i leave him for very long), but he knows not to jump up and demand to be let in. i got lucky and got a sun addict, he will go sunbathe by himself for hours at a time and be totally content haha
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My two will go outside alone for about five minutes then come running in to see why I'm not with them. As long as I am out there they will play with each other or with me. If they are distracted I sneek away and about a minute latter they are on the hunt to find me. My male is Velcro, my female is super glue !!!! Has to be in physical contact as much as possible. Stay outside alone----- NO WAY
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Old 06-30-2008, 05:15 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Haha, that's what I figured. It's just that sometimes I'd like to have a little break.

By the way, we keep him in a 5X8 fence in the garage, with fans blowing on him, of course. I'd like to bring him inside, because we want him to be an "inside" dog. How do we get him to CALM DOWN inside? He won't stop jumping on the furniture or running 90 to nothing for anything. I've tried "NO!", and "TROOPER", but they do not phase him.

We will be getting him trained soon, so maybe that will calm him down??? I hope.
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At five months he is still going to want to be where you are. Maybe have someone go out with him on a lead and when he tries to jump up on the door do a correction, or better yet try and train him to sit when he wants something, whether it's to come inside or asking for a treat. Getting a pup to sit in a calm, firm voice also helps to calm him down and focus his attention on you and distract him from doing whatever it is he wanted to do.
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They all grow different my euro dobe was 55 pounds at 16 weeks. My dog wanted to be in with me too. Its true they are VELCRO dogs.
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i agree that if you want him to play outside you will have to go out there with him, however i dont think this means you should tolerate him jumping up on the door.

i have trained calvin to stop jumping at the door (it DESTROYS screen doors VERY FAST lol). doesnt mean he doesnt sit at the door sometimes wishing i would come play (if i leave him for very long), but he knows not to jump up and demand to be let in. i got lucky and got a sun addict, he will go sunbathe by himself for hours at a time and be totally content haha
Phew...good to know. Jager does this too! I will be reading and he doesn't even move well excpet to switch sides...even tan and all!
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One simple rule - he gets nothing until he sits quietly. I start that when they're very young and by 5 months, is not an issue. Can't imagine having to start now, lol. If he's alone in the garage a lot, is no wonder he wants your attention every chance he gets. Back to that velcro dog thing. I'd suggest you get into some one on one obedience training - YOU and the dog, not someone else doing it. Best way to bond and get control. You just have to be consistent and not give in to his leaping about. When he calms down, he's rewarded. At his age, will take a while, but definitely worth it. They can drive you nuts, but there's no better breed in the world. Good luck!
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Old 06-30-2008, 07:00 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Haha, that's what I figured. It's just that sometimes I'd like to have a little break.

By the way, we keep him in a 5X8 fence in the garage, with fans blowing on him, of course. I'd like to bring him inside, because we want him to be an "inside" dog. How do we get him to CALM DOWN inside? He won't stop jumping on the furniture or running 90 to nothing for anything. I've tried "NO!", and "TROOPER", but they do not phase him.

We will be getting him trained soon, so maybe that will calm him down??? I hope.
IMO....let him in if you want a inside dog (which any Dobe should be)...Right now if coming in is unusual...then he's gonna get excited. When it becomes the norm...then it will be just like anything else. Plus he's a pup and a high energy breed so some bouncing off the walls is to be expected...just relax and focus on bigger things...you'll do fine. -Our 3.5 month old has always been inside....he just comes in and jumps on the couch...my 2.5 yr. old daughter gets him a "chewy" and all is well....until the cat comes in the room...ha! Of course he's a sun-bather too.
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Dobes are people dogs. I go outside with my Dobe for a walk and at his pee and poop times. Dobes don't like being out alone. They are a member of your family, part of your pack. They must be included in your family activity. When you need to go to town or shower,etc., the dog can be crated for short periods of time.

Training helps too. If he bites you in heavey playing outside offleash, use a shock collar.

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Old 06-30-2008, 11:19 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Thanks for your comments. If anyone has anymore suggestions, they'd be greatly appreciated.
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Definitely bring him inside with you, they need to be with their people. He will probably be a little wild at first, since he'll be so excited. But with lots of exercise, puppy play time, socialization, and training he'll be a well mannered dude! I would definitely recommend training classes for both of you....they are really fun and will increase the bond between you two.
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Hi my name is Matthew from Pennsylvania and I have a puppy from the same father (wolfgang). I ordered him from arkansas, I assume from the same breeder. I purchased Adonis now known as Nico. I took him to the vet two days ago and he weighed in at 45lbs. I came across your post by me looking into the same exact question that you were. I think that this is really awsome to know someone that has the same bloodline as Nico. I noticed that this post was quite a while ago, how big did Trooper end up getting? If you would like you can email me at matthewstetchak_908@msn.com and maybe we could excange pics.
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I think my girls are the exception to that rule of not wanting to be outside alone (mostly my older girl ) They will go outside and entertain each other for a couple hours if I let them. My husband is bad with leaving them outside, he usually wants to put them out for 15 - 20 mins and then let them in, rather than let them go play. I am home with them all day and I let them go play as long as they want most of the time, of course, I do keep an eye on them and do not simply let them run wild, I value my yard. But given the choice of being in the house or being outside, they choose outside, running, playing tug with each other, chasing their ball, wrestling with each other, or simply sunning.
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Haha, that's what I figured. It's just that sometimes I'd like to have a little break.

By the way, we keep him in a 5X8 fence in the garage, with fans blowing on him, of course. I'd like to bring him inside, because we want him to be an "inside" dog. How do we get him to CALM DOWN inside? He won't stop jumping on the furniture or running 90 to nothing for anything. I've tried "NO!", and "TROOPER", but they do not phase him.

We will be getting him trained soon, so maybe that will calm him down??? I hope.
exercise. 2 walks of 45min to an hour a day should work. And of course training to be a good well behaved dog that listens to you and all in the family. It will start with the walk.
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Hi my name is Matthew from Pennsylvania and I have a puppy from the same father (wolfgang). I ordered him from arkansas, I assume from the same breeder. I purchased Adonis now known as Nico. I took him to the vet two days ago and he weighed in at 45lbs. I came across your post by me looking into the same exact question that you were. I think that this is really awsome to know someone that has the same bloodline as Nico. I noticed that this post was quite a while ago, how big did Trooper end up getting? If you would like you can email me at matthewstetchak_908@msn.com and maybe we could excange pics.
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