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11-15-2012, 04:48 PM
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| | Dobermans Rule!
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| Most Agressive Shutzhund Video I've Ever Seen. Man this dog is FIERCE!
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11-15-2012, 04:54 PM
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| | u mad?
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| I have always loved frienches and now I love them even more. Fantastic and great share!
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11-15-2012, 04:59 PM
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| | Prime Therapy
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| Oh wow, I thought it was going to be the border terrier one but to my surprise it is a frenchie! Now this is very impressive for a brachycephalic dog! |
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11-15-2012, 04:59 PM
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| | Alpha
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| Considering the smush-face, he's got a good bite, and he certainly is enthusiastic. 
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11-15-2012, 05:00 PM
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| I tried not to laugh because I know the bulldog was serious, but this made my day. |
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11-15-2012, 05:16 PM
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| | Dobermans Rule!
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Originally Posted by MaxsMom I tried not to laugh because I know the bulldog was serious, but this made my day. | I know.....me too! And I felt bad that so many people were laughing ringside. But seriously....it was hard not to.....he is so cute! And totally serious....all about business!
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11-15-2012, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by MaxsMom I tried not to laugh because I know the bulldog was serious, but this made my day. | Not me, I laughed the entire time! lol Great video! |
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11-15-2012, 07:04 PM
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| Just imagine the stamina of the little fella! It would be like exercising all that time with a clothes pin on our nose. |
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11-15-2012, 07:45 PM
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| That was awesome! Thanks for sharing! |
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11-15-2012, 07:49 PM
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| | Paralibrarian
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| I couldn't not laugh, but that little guy did have some tenacity! |
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11-15-2012, 08:58 PM
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| Awww thats sooooooooo cute! ;-)
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11-28-2012, 03:18 PM
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| | Lil Dog
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11-28-2012, 03:32 PM
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| Always loved the frenchies and now I have another reason  |
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11-28-2012, 04:05 PM
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| Very Cute!!, and impressive for a Frenchie. However, I don't know what "DM Grp C" means, but I do not believe that this dog could possibly have a legitimate IPO III. There were several things in the routine shown on the video that would not have been legitimate in a real trial.
I don't want to denigrate the Frenchie's performance, but it is misleading to indicate this dog is IPO III.
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11-28-2012, 04:11 PM
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| There is no way a Frenchie could do the retrieves in ob.  |
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11-28-2012, 04:13 PM
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| If this dog was physically capable, is there any reason why it could not title in IPO?
(by the way I am not saying it is I am asking the exact words in the question) |
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11-28-2012, 04:35 PM
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| He is a star, with his own cheering section...hard not to laugh, short feet and all.
- little big man, full of confidence / gotta love him
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11-28-2012, 04:56 PM
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| | Back Off
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Originally Posted by Matt Vandart If this dog was physically capable, is there any reason why it could not title in IPO?
(by the way I am not saying it is I am asking the exact words in the question) | No. But it is not physically capable. It could get a BH and possibly tracking titles (any small dog could) with some good training. Not sure about the 'drives' on a Frenchie, even for tracking. and of course their brachiocephaly |
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11-28-2012, 06:03 PM
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| LOL! Too cute and kudo's to the trainer who actually trained a Frenchie to do anything!
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12-01-2012, 05:43 PM
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| | Good Gracious, Gracie!
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| What I love most about these "off-breed" dogs doing Schutzhund exercises of any sort is how much they and their owners must be bonded to have invested so much time and effort into training, even when performance is not exactly by the book. What a mutual party! Even if the dog cannot title.
To elaborate, Matt, the jump and wall are not altered for different size dogs in IPO, as they are in agility. So, even a Chihuahua would have to retrieve 650 grams of dumbbell over a 1 meter jump to get just an IPO 1. Thus, it's unlikely a petite dog could do the retrieve over the jump and/or wall for the obedience part of the IPO.
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12-02-2012, 02:44 AM
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| Indeed but a staffy could.....  |
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12-02-2012, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt Vandart Indeed but a staffy could.....  | A staffy isn't a 12 inch, 22 pound dog, is I think the point. A Border Collie probably could too. |
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12-02-2012, 04:36 PM
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| Yes I get that point, I am just wondering of the mechanisms of the sport. |
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12-02-2012, 05:31 PM
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| | Good Gracious, Gracie!
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| There are Am Staffs in the sport, even mixed breed dogs. My point is that some dogs are unable to carry 650 grams of dumbbell over a one meter high jump without touching the jump.
I'm not sure what you mean by "mechanisms", but the rules for trials are clearly laid out: http://www.fci.be/circulaires/55-2011-annex-en.pdf
There are nuances that can lead to losing or not losing points, as with any sport, and that is what your trainer helps you learn, in addition to how to train your dog without walking on its innate drive, and how to capitalize on what drive a dog does have.
For information on dogs' various drives, you might enjoy Der Schutzhund (The Protection Dog): The Training of Working Dogs in Protection Work, by Helmut Raiser, translation by Armin Winkler.
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