That 180 pivoting is THE most awesome thing I have ever seen a dog do.
See this vid here:
That was after about 2 hours.
was literally made over about 4 hours. We had been out and about for about 2 hours before we started filming on the field.
The second location is a country park about 2 miles from our house (by the training field) which we walked to, then filmed the second bit, with the food marking, walked around the park, then we walked back and filmed the last bit, which took about about 1 hour.
That is a very long time indeed, seriously that is is 4 hours later and they are still chasing the ball like that and they have low drive? (serious question please answer).
I'm not sure but I think you may be mixing lack of drive up with sloppy execution, remember at this point in time (when I made this vid) I am using my laid back real life obedience method of training where I don't care how the dog downs as long as it downs when I say, or how it heels as long as it heels when I say and I am letting them **** up so people don't get disheartened when their dog doesn't do it right straight away.
I had no intentions of schutzhund titles, or attention on my face as long as they listened to the level I was expecting, depending on what we are doing, I was happy.
At any point in that vid I could have got serious and had them doing stuff properly.
I am being honest here, if take Becca over the field and train with her for 20 mins, then walk back home (about 2 mins) as soon as we get back she will be ready for more.
Typical day before Luna turned up:
I have to take them both out at 6am till 7/7:30ish in the morning, otherwise they will be pains in the ass when kath gets up, we walk down to the quay, bugger about there for half hour chasing bunnies (courseing, shhhhhhhh.....) then I have breakfast, and so do they,then I take one out for 40 mins of training, then I come back, then I take the other one out for 40 mins, by this time it's 10:30 ish so they have a kip for an hour or 2 while I walk Bumpy and bugger about, the max they will kip for is 2hours, then they will just get up and start playing with each other so I leave them play for a while, then its competition fetch with a tennis ball in my garden for at least 30 mins. Then they get crated for a few hours, because if I don't they will just bugger about with each other for hours which will result in them not listening to a word anyone is saying.
Then they get another 20 mins down the field together just running about and venting energy. Then in the pen till after dinner. Then its a 40 min training walk with a 20 min off leash at the end by the river, either each or together depending on how I am feeling. Then it's sofa time.
At any point in the evening I could call either one of them, take them into a field with a ball and some treats and they would train again for who knows how long.
That isn't on the weekend by the way , that's every single day sunny, rainy, windy, dont matter, because if I don't they would either go mad or wreck the joint.....zzzzzzzz
I'm not lying to make friends, exaggerating things or bigging them up or anything like that. Just saying it how it is.
I'm sure it is the base of beccas weight problem but I just don't know what to do otherwise, they are the biggest pains in the arse if I don't knacker them out.
I am like a walking zombie now Luna is here
I may be burning them and myself up I think, what to do? Any suggestions/.
See this vid:
That was my house x 2 when they were that age. I had Kath literally crying on the phone at one point when I was working away and saying they had to go. Hence the need to take them out before she gets up.She did amazingly coping with them to be honest, but she doesn't really like them as a result and I don't blame her.
I tell you what I'll do I'll make a vid featuring drive, but I need to know what you want to see.
How long for? what will be the 'criteria' to show her drive if you get me.
I think you (and the rest of the world probs) and me have a different meaning of the word drive and I need to learn it.