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post #26 of 64 (permalink) Old 12-21-2012, 08:56 PM
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Haha... at least in the case of these dogs the results would not be
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I rather *liked??* this FAQ:

"I’ve seen several of your Daisy Dogs – why do some look different than others? First of all, even though they are all the same type of dog and come from the same breeds, I am not trying to reproduce them to look or act exactly the same. I’m not requiring them to be consistent in their looks or actions, but I do need to be able to predict their outcome. There are different family trees within the Daisy Dog and each family line has its own characteristics. Because people are individuals, they are not necessarily looking for the same end result. I like my family trees to be different so we can pick and choose between the traits. I want to be able to provide as many of those traits as they desire. How? By knowing my bloodlines like the back of my hand. I back this up with a satisfaction guarantee."

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I bet she knows all of them have patella related issues

I will say, I would like to meet every buyer, and whack them in the head with a rubber mallet
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I rather *liked??* this FAQ:

"Iíve seen several of your Daisy Dogs Ė why do some look different than others? First of all, even though they are all the same type of dog and come from the same breeds, I am not trying to reproduce them to look or act exactly the same. Iím not requiring them to be consistent in their looks or actions, but I do need to be able to predict their outcome. There are different family trees within the Daisy Dog and each family line has its own characteristics. Because people are individuals, they are not necessarily looking for the same end result. I like my family trees to be different so we can pick and choose between the traits. I want to be able to provide as many of those traits as they desire. How? By knowing my bloodlines like the back of my hand. I back this up with a satisfaction guarantee."

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Don't think they don't. There are ten times more Korean Jindos in rescue in this country than even are in this country
Yep, any Akita or shiba mixed with god knows what is labeled a "rare Jindo" and any dog sporting even the slightest hint of a wrinkle is suddenly a Sharpei or Sharpei mix. I've also seen shelters & rescues start labeling mixes & mutts by designer breed names or making up their own.
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I guess it is a matter of whatever gets them out of the shelter the fastest, unfortunately.
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It's also the fault of Petfinder. You cannot list a fifty-pound brown mixed breed dog on Petfinder... you MUST list some sort of predominant breed, even if there is none. Some of the slicker listers are starting to make up funny stuff (I assume as a way to indicate they have no clue)... Chihuahua X Great Dane mixes, that sort of thing. Then, some moron shows up to sign a puppy up for class and insists that that really is what their pup is... LOL!
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Oh I have seen that :/

Do you ever wonder if those incorrect descriptions actually keep people away?

Such a shame.
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I'm surprised I haven't heard this one yet.

What I dont understand the most about these purposely bred cross breeds, is people spouting that they're hypoallergenic.
NO DOG IS HYPOALLERGENIC. And just buy a freaking poodle or yorkie or countless other non-shedding breeds that already exist and shut up.

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Just curious are those DNA test really accurate? I heard they weren't and also they don't have every breed.
Dna tests do not map breeds. At this time it is impossible to dna test for breed. They dna test for traits common in breeds. So if the test comes back positive for dwarfisim your dog is part dachshund.

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I didn't know breeding required a cookbook...dogs+recipe never equals anything good... unless your *cough* asian *cough* JK JK
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basically what i got from that site is..

im not a legitimate dog breeder and just spew out little maltless terrier mongrels that "people" say are "the best dogs they have ever owned" made from my own "ingredients"........
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I couldn't read it all the way through. It made me sick. Burns, you go! I am not expert, but even I recognize stupid. There are those where I work for example..one guy inherited his son's male and female Dobermans. Yeah, the son was going to get rich breeding. I think after this last litter that the guy gave away to the Kansas Doberman Rescue or something like that, I think the bitch has been spayed.
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after 60 years you do not have something close to pure, i would think you have have a well defined stock
She is selling a story and people love to buy stories. i would imagine each new litter could be said to be "new and improved" "more loving"...
all you can say is move along folks nothing to see here
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after 60 years you do not have something close to pure, i would think you have have a well defined stock
She is selling a story and people love to buy stories. i would imagine each new litter could be said to be "new and improved" "more loving"...
all you can say is move along folks nothing to see here
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People are just so stupid sometimes. Nice but gullible. You can blame PETA and HSUS on this one though. Their campaign that mutts are healthier and blah blah opened the doors for these breeders to market their mistakes as superior to a purebred. The real problem is that there is NO support for these people when they get their puppy home unlike when you go to a reputable breeder that is there for you. I see it with my clients, who hire me to train their dogs. Case in point, ironically "Daisy" a boston/eng bulldog mix. They paid 1000$ for a mutt! She is a sweet heart and I love her to death and shes coming along great but shes a MUTT! They are really nice people just VERY uneducated when it come to dogs in general. They get it now after me lecturing them but they aren't going to get rid of their dog. So all we can do is educate and help when people do stupid things.
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PS- This woman with these Daisy dogs is just greedy and has no real clue as to how the genetics of dogs work! It is infuriating.
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A mutt is a mutt no matter how you choose to describe it.

Or as we Brits say, 'MONGREL'.

Now do not get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with owning a Mongrel/Mutt, but there is something wrong when you pay someone a stupid amount of money for one. Someone other than a deserving shelter that is.
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As much as I would like to say it's that idiot's fault for doing this, I have to spread the blame and ignorance to the morons who buy these mixed breeds.
Yep and that's pretty much what I thought as I was holding my tongue. As someone who researches every big decision to the fullest, I just have a really hard time comprehending how ANYONE would think buying a dog from this woman is a good idea.

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there is nothing wrong with owning a Mongrel/Mutt, but there is something wrong when you pay someone a stupid amount of money for one. Someone other than a deserving shelter that is.
Exactly. I've known many mutts over my 30-something odd years, and I have nothing against them. I'm not a dog snob. But purposely breeding them to make money when there are countless homeless dogs already out there getting euth'd every day... That sh!t pisses me off.

I've gotten into it with my own father about this because they bred their horrible standard poodle to some random lab so they could sell Labrodoodles. They ended up keeping one of the puppies and they like to brag about it, but get extremely offended when I refer to the dog as a mutt. Which is exactly what he is. Not that I don't like the dog - he's a nice dog, and I have nothing against the dog personally - but a mutt is a mutt. Sorry, Dad, but he's a mutt.



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just heard of friend's neighbour who paid $1500 for a supposedly pure Australian terrier to be shipped from interstate to them...after 6 months it's become obvious to them that the dog is a x breeding of some sort....but they've bonded with it now. It's highly likely it's a puppy mill mutt....hopefully this taught them a practical lesson in how not to do it. (albeit an expensive lesson....but sometimes they're the best sort).

fools and their money..... seems to be so many of them just asking to be conned...I'd be rich if I didn't have a conscience and morals.

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LOL! Yes, fools and their money! I had a woman some years ago come to class with what she said was a Puggle, back when that was a brand new thing... she had paid $2000 for it, and had it shipped from Texas to Michigan. It was... ummm... BRINDLE! Wasn't even the right mutt LOL!

On a gratifying note, a woman in the store today told me she had a "mixed-breed Daisy Dog"... she was sort of surprised when I was so pleased by her reference.
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On a gratifying note, a woman in the store today told me she had a "mixed-breed Daisy Dog"... she was sort of surprised when I was so pleased by her reference.
LOL too funny! At least she recognizes its a mixed breed, though that probably didn't stop her from dropping 1k on it



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The dumb and gullible who buy these dogs do it so that they can have something "unique" or "special". They're the ones who tote the dog everywhere in hopes someone will ask them about the dog and then they can impress and flaunt what they have or what they think they have. I think it's kind of a keep up with the Joneses mentality. The dog props up their egos and gives them a sense of worth.

Like a knock off purse. They hope no one realizes it's not the real deal.
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