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Old 12-19-2012, 02:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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English Bulldog in need of a home.

My sons friend called him last night to tell him he is selling his 5 year old English Bulldog girlie. He bought her last year with the intent of breeding her but due to financial worries he has decided to get rid of her (as if she were a toaster he no longer has use for, grrr!)

She is without doubt the worst example of a Bulldog anyone could wish to meet. She has breathing difficulties, struggles to move around because she is so stunted, a true BYB product if ever there was one.

He is asking 300 euros.

Of course he said he thought to offer her to us first as he knows we love her to bits. She is an absolute sweetheart. And the truth of it is, we would take her in, in less than a heartbeat. Not because as he has suggested we could make money out of her, that any pups we bred from her would sell for 300 euros a piece but because she deserves to be loved, not passed from pillar to post as has been the case these past couple of years.
Of course the first thing I would do is have her spayed, as well as vaccinated.

Thing is if we don't buy her he is going to advertise her and I just know some slimeball will buy her to breed with.

But will she fit in with a very active Doberboy and a grumpy Terrier.

When she has visited in the past they have been fine with her, but fact is, she has only ever been here for an hour or so.
I fear Toby, being the dog he is, will never let her alone with regards playing.
As for Russell he is oversexed (even though he is neutered) and wants to hump any female he meets whether they are in season or not.

Would it be fair to bring her into our home?

What would you guys do?

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Old 12-19-2012, 05:53 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Maybe if you could convince him that he should just give her to you?
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Poor pup With the difficulties she has living that you describe, I can only imagine the torture she would be in if bred.

I agree with Rosemary, maybe see if you can finagle him just giving her up? But really, you don't know until you try, if she'll fit in.
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Old 12-19-2012, 08:47 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I have already said I will adopt her, but he wants money it seems rather than a loving and if I dare blow my own trumpet responsible dog owning home.

In all honesty 300€ may as well be 3000€ at this time of year. So whilst I understand in one breath why he is so set on getting something for her. On the other as I have said she isn't a damn surplus appliance.


Maybe I am thinking too much like an animal lover. Not someone more in love with money.
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Just tell him how amazing of a home she would have, and you would take care of her, and all the vet bills etc and you would pay a small rehoming fee since he did give her her shots etc. But she will need this and that and those cost money and blah blah blah
guilt him into it
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Just tell him how amazing of a home she would have, and you would take care of her, and all the vet bills etc and you would pay a small rehoming fee since he did give her her shots etc. But she will need this and that and those cost money and blah blah blah
guilt him into it
She isn't current regards her vaccinations so I will have to get her done, in total with a spay, vaccinations etc I am looking at going on 700€ which whilst not a lot in comparison to what it costs you guys is still not to be sneezed at.

You know what the worst of it is?

He has 4 dogs, the bully, 2 hunting dogs, one of whom is no good so he has said he is going to shoot, even though my son offered last week to take her off his hands . He takes her inability to do her job as a slight to his manhood. The fourth dog is a dachshund. All of the dogs live in an apartment, with no outside space. Who are all never walked and because of aren't clean in the house anymore.
My heart aches for them all.

I am going to get my son to call his friend, whom he says has gone down so far in his estimation he barely registers as such anymore and have him ask if he will allow us to take both girls, the bully and the hunting dog.
Unfortunately I don't hold out much hope.

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The two boys may bow down to her since she is the female and come to adore her. I love bulldogs and hope you get her if that is what you want. I am sure you would give her the very best home she could hope for. Best of Luck.
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Offer a small amount for the poor female hunting dog NOW. Forget about the bulldog, he will find somebody for her. That's what I would do. I think the hunting dog would fit much better with active playful Toby and she could probably take the terrier's advances better too.
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As some of you guys may have already heard, we took in the hunting dog girlie that was living with the bulldog girlie in what I believe could be termed as less than ideal conditions.

We got a phone call at the weekend asking us to come pick up the Bulldog which my son went to go do.
However, as he drew up the owners mother had a 'nerviosa' attack about letting her go. She loves her too much she said which resulted in my son saying a few pointed things to her which probably didnt endear him to the silly woman in the least.
Anyhow the owner of the dog then said the hunting dog was at his brothers place and that if my son was going past would he mind dropping in and feeding her as he was too busy, (he was off hunting apparently) and his brother had said he could put her on his land in his shed but he wasnt going to feed her, that was his job.
My son drove over there to find Reina in a filth ridden cage, with no water and no food. Her coat was filthy and she was so sorry looking he simply picked her up, called his friend and said if he wanted to know where the dog was, she was at our house.
He (the owner) then told my son he was hoping he would do this and gave her to us without a moments hesitation.

Well today we got a phone call offering us the Bulldog, 'que sorpresa' as they say over here. Apparently whilst his mother wants to keep her still he has come to realise he just hasnt got the money to take care of her.
And here is the crux of the matter, neither do I now.
Originally it was just the Bulldog looking for a home, then the hunting dog got mentioned, then it was back to the bulldog and so on. The man changes his mind like he changes his underpants. Anyhow after taking in hunting dog whose name is Reina which means Queen in Spanish we have discovered she is unspayed, unvaccinated, unchipped and has never been wormed in her life.
Now I expected to have to spay the Bulldog which isn't as expensive here as it is in the States but still, to suddenly have to do everything vaccinations, spaying, worming, chipping is a huge chunk of money but because it needs doing I will find the money somehow. But finding double is unfortunately going too far. Especially seeing as I have just had to pay out for my 2 boys vaccinations and prior to Christmas I had a huge bill for Jacks treatment which really stung.

My hubby and I live on a small pension, we do what we can, when we can and whilst my heart is breaking for this girl I just cannot afford to take her on at this moment in time.

Yes the dog is now free, but her medical bills will be as much if not more than Reina's as my Vet has warned that Bulldogs are a harder dog to have to spay than an ordinary young mutt who doesnt have the breathing problems a Bulldog does. And boy does this girl have breathing problems. Plus she will be vaccinated according to weight and as she weighs more than Toby (he is 88lb) and his cost nigh on a hundred euros for boosters and she will have to start from scratch which is 200 euros plus I just cannot do it.

Now I could say I will leave her unspayed for now and do it later. Both my boys are neutered, but hereabouts it isnt just my dog I have to worry about and besides it could cause fights amidst my 2 if she is left untouched and I really would be in a pickle then.


I feel like I am walking away from an animal who desperately needs my help and it is tearing me apart.

What would you guys do??

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Are there any breed specific rescues in your area? You could take her in and then work with a rescue to find her the perfect home. If finances are a concern, I would not take on so many dogs. While you would be helping another, it could potentially hurt one of your current dogs if something were to come up that they needed financing for.
From experience with english bulldog, mine has had 4+ surgeries for cherry eye (keeps coming back even though his opthomologist is one of the best), he has had brachycephalic surgery (for his breathing issues), tail amputation (for ingrown curly Q tail) and he CANNOT be walked much or outdoors much even after successful surgery, he gets very tired and takes him a while to recover and catch his breath. He loves to swim, but cant really swim often because bullies are prone to aspiration pneumonia. As far as personality, Clyde (and most other english bulldogs I have met or talked to their owners) is extremely lazy but gets short bursts of crazy-strong energy where he charges around the house like a linepacker/bowling ball then sleeps endlessly like a rock. He has a dominant personality (hence the term "bully") and will not take any other dog or male human "challenging" him- he isnt aggressive but needs a firm leader to be stern with him (of course I dont get physical, but my voice alone will stop him in his tracks).
Having to do over, I would not adopt another English bulldog, not for the financial reasons, but because my family and my love for dobermans include a very active lifestyle. I absolutely LOVE my smushy face bully, but it is not fair to take the other 2 dogs everywhere (hiking, boating, beach, walks, play dates, dogpark, etc) and have to leave him behind.
(i didnt mention that MOST EVERY english bully has allergies, somethign that can be extremely frustrating and a bit costly to maintain. I am one of the lucky ones, Clyde has only mild allergies and minimal facial staining but I have yet to meet another without blasted allergies)
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Are there any breed specific rescues in your area? You could take her in and then work with a rescue to find her the perfect home. If finances are a concern, I would not take on so many dogs. While you would be helping another, it could potentially hurt one of your current dogs if something were to come up that they needed financing for.
From experience with english bulldog, mine has had 4+ surgeries for cherry eye (keeps coming back even though his opthomologist is one of the best), he has had brachycephalic surgery (for his breathing issues), tail amputation (for ingrown curly Q tail) and he CANNOT be walked much or outdoors much even after successful surgery, he gets very tired and takes him a while to recover and catch his breath. He loves to swim, but cant really swim often because bullies are prone to aspiration pneumonia. As far as personality, Clyde (and most other english bulldogs I have met or talked to their owners) is extremely lazy but gets short bursts of crazy-strong energy where he charges around the house like a linepacker/bowling ball then sleeps endlessly like a rock. He has a dominant personality (hence the term "bully") and will not take any other dog or male human "challenging" him- he isnt aggressive but needs a firm leader to be stern with him (of course I dont get physical, but my voice alone will stop him in his tracks).
Having to do over, I would not adopt another English bulldog, not for the financial reasons, but because my family and my love for dobermans include a very active lifestyle. I absolutely LOVE my smushy face bully, but it is not fair to take the other 2 dogs everywhere (hiking, boating, beach, walks, play dates, dogpark, etc) and have to leave him behind.
(i didnt mention that MOST EVERY english bully has allergies, somethign that can be extremely frustrating and a bit costly to maintain. I am one of the lucky ones, Clyde has only mild allergies and minimal facial staining but I have yet to meet another without blasted allergies)
Unfortunately there are no breed specific rescues hereabouts and I would hazard to say there aren't any in the whole of Spain.
Conna, (which is her name) has weepy eyes which go gooey and to be honest I think she suffers with them.
Her breathing is really bad. And whilst I want to help her with it I do not think for one second that I could afford the surgery to try and help her even if my Vet could do it. We do not have specialists per say, we do have the Veterinary Colleges but they charge you for the privalege of basically of using your dog as a test case and even then, I am unsure if they do this operation or not.
She does have outbursts of energy but as you said, sleeps a long time.
She is kind of stubborn, but then she hasnt had any proper handling or training.
I am not sure if she has any allergies, but from what you say I wouldn't be surprised if she did.

I just feel so bad. I kind of promised her (I know she is a dog and doesnt understand) that I would do my best to help her and now I am not going to be able to keep that promise. Which kind of hurts.
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Just wanted to let you guys know, the Bulldog is going to be okay.

We went this morning and picked her up. My trainer friend has taken her in and will be accessing her over the next few weeks before she goes to the UK to live with her mum.

I couldnt be happier.
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Update.

Megan the Bulldog (as she is now known, as you know I do not rename but my friend does so from Cona to Megan it shall be).

Decided she didnt like Toby and tried to have a fight with him when she was on my property waiting for my friend to come pick her up.

She didnt like going in the crate (my friend transports all her dogs in crates) but she eventually went in with a bit of persuasion, (gentle).

She hasnt taken too kindly to my friends Pittbull girlie, but most of this is due to her sounding like an asthymatic steam train which in turn makes her sound a bit gruffly so the Pittie I think wasnt too sure if she was growling or not. My friend works on a crate and rotate system for her Pittie as she doesnt like her Malinois girl and vice versa. We werent too worried about the dislike issue as she won't be living with them for too long and my friend has loads of spare runs and kennels that she uses for her boarders.
Anyhow she seemed to fall in love with my friends male Boxer, that was until this morning. Megan is jealous of any attention being showered on any of the other dogs and decided first thing to put the male Boxer in his place.
I don't think so little lady.
My friend broke it up before it got to clinches.
We are hoping this is just a transitional problem.
Normally Megan is very good with other dogs and hopefully she will chill out and learn to go into a crate for travelling/sleeping without too many issues.
At the moment she is not happy about it.
Still early days.

Please keep your fingers crossed.



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Bless you for your big heart.
I know you want to help EVERY dog, but we can only do our best.
Please don't beat yourself up, your kindness is truly amazing.

I believe you are still mourning wee Jack which makes everything more difficult and emotional.

Taking in the hunt dog was more than generous. I know she will be loved and become one of the family.
Let the poor Bulldog move on to another family.
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