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post #26 of 37 (permalink) Old 12-20-2012, 03:28 AM
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And now you know why I'm sticking with the cheap snake morphs! Get the exact same personality and temperament but a different color, spend either $15 or $200 000. Yeeeah, I'll stick with the cheaper end, maybe go up to $300 but not farther than that. My monitor will already cost me 1k.
You should check out the Ben Siegel Reptile page on Facebook they do animal auctions, depending on where you live and temps they may have a hold on shipping to your area at the moment. I picked up 4 corn snakes, and an orange tree python with shipping ($30 for next day delivery) for $300. Unless however you are really bad at telling yourself no to pretty snakes, than by all means do not venture that way as you, like myself, will leave broke.
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Wow, that's insane. My sister breeds show quality Maltese full health screening, vet guarantee and quad-registered and they are near that expensive o.o That's nuts.
But does she actually show them? In other words, does she prove that they are the quality she claims? Personally, I've seen some so-called "show quality" dogs that would be passed over in the ring without a second glance. Also, quad registered? What more do you need than AKC and UKC?


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She was showing until she had her baby, idk what you personally need- was simply stating they are 4x registered


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There's a reason I chose a Dobe over any long haired breed... I barely keep up with keeping Jaina properly bathed, anyway

And if you think that's expensive... I was looking at getting a Macaw once. Hyacinths go for as much as $20 000, and they are beautiful birds.

Needless to say, I am never going to own a Hyacinth Macaw.
I can relate.

I love parrots and my next parrot is going to be a Rose Breasted Cockatoo
I went to a shop where they had all sorts of parrots for sale (very reputable and in buisness for 30+ years) and the Hyacinth they had was worth well more than my car! He was very friendly, but his beak could take an eye out.

That and his big ol' toes got stuck in my sweater. He likes shiny things too.

I'll stick to my quakers and RBtoos (smaller) but I love greys and amazons too : ) Birds are not cheap- but the hand rearing and care they need is astounding! My quaker was flown in from Missouri - Delta Cargo for a grand total of $450. The Blue quakers at my local Petco are 1k when they are actually in stock- which is ridiculous! and at the time I didn't think to visit the shop with the Hyacinth, so I probably supported a BYB of birds. Lesson learned!


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You should check out the Ben Siegel Reptile page on Facebook they do animal auctions, depending on where you live and temps they may have a hold on shipping to your area at the moment. I picked up 4 corn snakes, and an orange tree python with shipping ($30 for next day delivery) for $300. Unless however you are really bad at telling yourself no to pretty snakes, than by all means do not venture that way as you, like myself, will leave broke.
I've heard of some of his auctions, but I don't go on facebook and I don't really do auctions Plus, the expensive morphs that I want are highly sought after by professional breeders, so an auction isn't going to help me much unless there's a genetic defect with the snake (and sometimes not even then). People get much more competitive about exotic dealing and buying than I'm willing to keep up with

Instead I'll stick with a future purchase of a lesser and an enchi ball, and my BEL and super pastel axanthic will have to be "someday" purchases. The others are easy to find; blizzard corn, western hognose, and maybe an ETB. Lizards being African Fat Tails (easy and cheap) and a monitor or two (ackies, peachthroated; also relatively easy to find).


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My next parrot will be non-existant. After Paigliocco, I don't think I ever want another bird. He has been more work than I thought possible, and at 21, is still not tame. That lesson learned.


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Haha try buying a well-bred horse! I don't even want to talk about how much I paid for my Tennessee Walking Horse several years ago. Granted he actually ended up paying for himself between the rodeos we did and the amount of work I got out of him on the various farms around my small town but still... lets just say I had a choice between a car and a horse because we couldn't afford both! Trouble was definitely the better choice tho!
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Haha try buying a well-bred horse! I don't even want to talk about how much I paid for my Tennessee Walking Horse several years ago. Granted he actually ended up paying for himself between the rodeos we did and the amount of work I got out of him on the various farms around my small town but still... lets just say I had a choice between a car and a horse because we couldn't afford both! Trouble was definitely the better choice tho!
That's no lie! We have 3 walker/foxtroter crosses. The word "gaited" on horse is like hemi for a car!


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Plus, the expensive morphs that I want are highly sought after by professional breeders, so an auction isn't going to help me much unless there's a genetic defect with the snake (and sometimes not even then). People get much more competitive about exotic dealing and buying than I'm willing to keep up with
I admit that I lurk around Craig's List and our local rescues, looking for the exotic morphs. Snake breeders don't usually have the 'return to me if you can't keep it' policy. Maybe I'll get lucky with something unusual.

Although what will probably happen is some random person will walk into work with another snake in a bucket, and I won't be able to say no. Still, I love ball pythons, and would really like an enchi or a bumblebee mojave someday. Expensive though, and I'm not sure I'd want to front that kind of cash for a snake when they tend to turn up in the free to a good home section all too often.

It makes me wonder what breeders do with all those snakes they produce. Do they really all sell? And then I think I'm not sure I want to know the answer.
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I admit that I lurk around Craig's List and our local rescues, looking for the exotic morphs. Snake breeders don't usually have the 'return to me if you can't keep it' policy. Maybe I'll get lucky with something unusual.

Although what will probably happen is some random person will walk into work with another snake in a bucket, and I won't be able to say no. Still, I love ball pythons, and would really like an enchi or a bumblebee mojave someday. Expensive though, and I'm not sure I'd want to front that kind of cash for a snake when they tend to turn up in the free to a good home section all too often.

It makes me wonder what breeders do with all those snakes they produce. Do they really all sell? And then I think I'm not sure I want to know the answer.
I won't deny that I've been lurking craigslist as well, and also been carefully watching Quetzal's breeder's website. He had a lesser male that I was interested in but then I had to make preparations for Skoll and any plans for new snakes quickly fell by the wayside.

The world of snake breeding and the world of dog breeding are so vastly different it's like night and day. While many people do not consider it an ethical choice, some breeders do cull any "leftovers". IMO when I look for a snake breeder I'm just as picky as I would be with a dog or cat breeder, which narrows my choices quite a bit. Quetzal's breeder keeps his "leftovers" as possible breeding stock or makes trades other breeder friends or gives them away, which imo is a lot better than throwing a healthy snake in the freezer just because it didn't sell. He also tends to keep his populations small to avoid too much surplus.


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I am trying to help my grandmother find a nice Maltese puppy. She was thisclose to buying from a broker (gag), but I got her turned around and she is willing to wait a bit for her new baby.

I called a breeder on the American Maltese Association recommended list, and WOW! They do minimal health testing, since apparently the Maltese is a generally healthy breed, but female PET puppies are $2500-$3000. This is apparently because of small litter sizes and that females are more in demand. The males are considerably more reasonable (IMO) at around $1500.

That being said, the breeder seemed great, friendly, but not a salesman, so I guess we will see where this goes. If everything lines up, and she decides that she only wants a female, Grandma should be getting her puppy in early February or so.

Dobermans don’t seem quite as pricy anymore
Joining this one late, but wanted to ask, since this isn't your breed, if you checked to make sure she's getting knees checked, on her health testing.

Luxating patellas are sooooo common in this toy breed, like so many other toys.

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Joining this one late, but wanted to ask, since this isn't your breed, if you checked to make sure she's getting knees checked, on her health testing.

Luxating patellas are sooooo common in this toy breed, like so many other toys.
Yep, she is. I was pretty surprised after reading the AMA website that they didn't firmly recommend hardly anything. Lots of it would be nice if they tested this and this, but if not, oh well.


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