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post #51 of 66 (permalink) Old 12-02-2012, 11:30 PM
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Oh please don't put a Mandarin Goby in there. You will starve him to death.

It takes a great, long-established, very healthy reef tank to support a Mandarin.
That will be the last addition if we ever add one. We have looked into them, and I really like them. We are still in the research stage of livestock for the tank, and we have a lot to go until the tank is set to house anything. We have put the tank up, but haven't done much past that.
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I have two 2.5 gallon tanks.
These are my first attempts at live plants. I had bought just regular gravel but then read that I should use plant substrate instead so I switched a while ago. I've lost two plants so far. Wish I had used the right gravel the first time.
I also hate the plants in the blue fish pic. I love the plants in the tank with the red fish. They still haven't spread out much since switching the gravel, but they get so big and beautiful.

I had a Betta in each, but lost the blue one last week. Not sure what happened. The water levels were good. I have a cheap heater, I think it might have fried him.
I need to find a better heater and better thermometer

I also have a little pleco in there that I switch between tanks to keep the algae down.
Also need different airstones, the ones I have now are horrible.

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Cow fish are indeed very cool. Properly fed--they put out a LOT of waste, though, apropos of their name. Have to really watch the water quality.

What do you mean by "shallow"?

How many gallons is it?

I'm so out of the loop now on saltwater equipment, as it's been at least ten years since I did marine tanks, and many advances have been made. No clue if LED lights can provide the appropriate spectrums of light or not.

Someone up-to-date can chime in on that.
It's 4ft long, 2ft wide and 18" deep, so I was thinking it would be good for a coral/invert tank maybe some small fish.
My house is also cold all the time so overheating would not be an issue.
It is also drilled for a sump, which would be a bonus I think for this kind of tank.
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Hank, your pleco likely killed your Betta.

They are very active at night, and tend to go leech onto slower-swimming fish, suck the slime coating off them, and generally harrass them to death.

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Hank, your pleco likely killed your Betta.

They are very active at night, and tend to go leech onto slower-swimming fish, suck the slime coating off them, and generally harrass them to death.
I didn't know that! Do you know what a good algae fish would be then?

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I didn't know that! Do you know what a good algae fish would be then?
Yep, and most fish places sell them for whatever kind of tank, and don't tell the customer. Nowadays, most of the clerks probably don't even know.

They can be fine with some situations, but I would never use them with fancy-finned slow swimming fish, or fish that are easy to glom onto, like Angels and Discus, etc.

I think most people have good luck with the Otocinclus, smaller varieties. They are generally more peaceful and do a much better job of keeping live plants cleaned of microalgae growth.

Otocinclus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Just take care you really get otos, and not the "Chinese Algae Eaters" as they look similar when the latter is small.

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I have a 65 gallon planted freshwater community right now. I can list all my fish species if you like, but there are a bunch.
Of course the plants are ever-evolving as I trim, pull some, and add others. This is the most recent full-tank shot I have, I think - from May of this year.



I'm also looking into starting up a 10 gallon dwarf puffer tank with cherry shrimp (who, if they start to be snacks, will go into the work tank I started - a 15 gallon Biocube with one male Betta, some blue neon rasboras and some pygmy cories.)


I can dork out aquarium for a long time.

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Hank - happy to hear your Bettas have plants and a heater! Nice work. I'd give the Otos a try for algae, too. The only problem is that the Otos like to have buddies, and I'm not sure how many you could put in a 2.5 gallon with a Betta, if any.

You could try some Amano shrimp, though your Betta may go for them, so you'd have to watch that. I just got some Amanos in my large tank and LOVE watching them.
Or you could do a Nerite Snail.
http://www.planetinverts.com/Amano%20Shrimp.html
http://www.planetinverts.com/zebra_nerite_snail.html

How much algae do you get?
What kind of a filter do you have? Also - the airstone is not necessary.

Edit: Yep, too small for Otos, unfortunately. Groups of 3 at minimum, and you need at larger tank for them.
Here are two sites that have fish profiles that I trust:
http://www.seriouslyfish.com/species...s-macrospilus/

http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/p...s/oto-catfish/

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I love planted tanks... They are just so stunning! I LOVE checking out the beautiful aquascapes in the AGA aquascaping contest - so inspirational!

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Agreed disco - I love browsing those pages! Maybe someday I'll deal with CO2. Right now it seems like too much work.

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I have an Oto. Definitely like him better than the Pleco. Didn't realize he needed buddies.

I'd actually like to take the tank down, but the last two fish are determined to stay alive. j/k! I haven't added any additional fish because I'm pretty sure some of the deceased ones had fish T.B.


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We currently have a 10 gallon community tank (hoping to upgrade that to a 26 bow front in the new year). It has been up and running for almost 2 years now. The 26 will be updated to cichlids or angelfish (I like angelfish but he likes cichlids).

We're also setting up a 29 gallon now. I'm very excited for this saltwater tank. We're doing live rock with no coral at first, with a couple of clowns, maybe a mandarin goby, a shrimp, and no idea what else.

Several years ago, I had a tank setup with a breeding pair of rotkeil severums , but never had any luck hatching any of the eggs. I also had another 45g with a variety of cichlids at the same time.
The 26 I think will be too small for adult angels... I think you should get a bigger tank and do a sweet South American tank with angels and some dwarf cichlids - win win! (PS - technically angels are cichlids, so you can get some and tell him you got some cichlids for him. )

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I've heard that SW is not that hard but intimidates me. Kinda like CO2.

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Yes this pleco deff needs to go. Little bugger dug up all my grass and made a huge mess. I will look into the shrimp, thanks!

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Hank, I'd also honestly upgrade to a 5gallon. Betas are slow-moving, but anything smaller than a 5 is typically only good for either raising newborn fry or shrimp.

Being that you live in my area, I actually have a 5 you can take. I also have a 10, but right now it's holding some old plants/drift wood from my old 80gal that I recently got rid of

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I would, but I don't really have room for bigger tanks atm

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