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Old 11-11-2012, 11:39 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Old 11-12-2012, 10:56 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Wow, can't say I have seen a sighthound do bitework before. Thanks for sharing.
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Old 11-12-2012, 05:29 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Well... I suppose it could make some sense if you squint. Sighthounds do have really high prey drives, I would just be a little worried about getting them to turn that bite-instinct off like the typical Schutzhund breeds can be trained to do. But I appreciate seeing dogs do things we don't expect them to do, thanks for the video!
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Old 11-12-2012, 05:37 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I'd be worried if the dog can withstand such a high impact sport, to be honest. My roommate with a borzoi was said she was told never do train her dog in things like bitesports due to the risk of injury since they're not built to withstand something like that, though that may be breeder bias more than actual information.

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I'd be worried if the dog can withstand such a high impact sport, to be honest. My roommate with a borzoi was said she was told never do train her dog in things like bitesports due to the risk of injury since they're not built to withstand something like that, though that may be breeder bias more than actual information.

Very interesting though! I like MAs and a friend of a friend's got one as well.
You know I hadn't even thought of how delicate Sighthound limbs tend to be until you pointed it out. The only one I've ever spent time around was an Irish Wolfhound that was bigger than some of the ponies I've worked with so a fairly sturdy-limbed dog
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I'd be worried if the dog can withstand such a high impact sport, to be honest. My roommate with a borzoi was said she was told never do train her dog in things like bitesports due to the risk of injury since they're not built to withstand something like that, though that may be breeder bias more than actual information.

Very interesting though! I like MAs and a friend of a friend's got one as well.
Weren't Borzoi originally bred to hunt wolves? How on earth could they do that if they were delicate? Several sighthound breeds were bred to bring down big game, for that matter.

For what it's worth, though, if you took an unconditioned, out of shape Malinois, and expected them to stand up to the rigors of an IPO III protection test, there's a good chance they would get hurt.
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Weren't Borzoi originally bred to hunt wolves? How on earth could they do that if they were delicate? Several sighthound breeds were bred to bring down big game, for that matter.

For what it's worth, though, if you took an unconditioned, out of shape Malinois, and expected them to stand up to the rigors of an IPO III protection test, there's a good chance they would get hurt.
That was my objection, but she was sure that her breeder instructed her never to compete in bitesports or any high impact sport with her dog. I would think a dog that can withstand a crash at high speeds on a racing course could withstand the pressure of bitesports.
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That was my objection, but she was sure that her breeder instructed her never to compete in bitesports or any high impact sport with her dog. I would think a dog that can withstand a crash at high speeds on a racing course could withstand the pressure of bitesports.
What you see in a video of a schutzhund trial and what is required physically for the vigors of the actual training day in day out are two different things. All of the dogs I train with are in exceptional physical condition and their bodies undergo quite a bit more stress than you would think.

The clip is too short to tell much, but from just that one bite and tiny obedience bit, it doesn't look like this is some schH 3 dog. Maybe they train for some of it for fun. If so, cool! But I wouldn't be 'debunking' the breeds' frailness due to one dog taking a bite.
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I thought it fascinating, a sighthound w/any sort of guardy trait, glad I'm not alone.

There is video of a couple of borzoi and a doberman girl pestering borzoi on youtube.

To see the two breeds together it looks like if the 'zois felt like taking the girl out for being a pita they could well have and in short order.
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very cool! I doubt my greyhound would do this though, she is more into smooches and treats...although it would be pretty cool. Think my greyhound would rather sleep on the couch like she does already, lol!
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