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10-18-2012, 10:30 PM
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| Bets? Next one boy, black.
ETA: sorry, didn't realize it was a questionable breeder.
Think I'll still watch though. |
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10-18-2012, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by EmilyB Bets? Next one boy, black.
ETA: sorry, didn't realize it was a questionable breeder.
Think I'll still watch though. | Sorry, didn't mean to rain on your parade. I'm still watching too for what it's worth lol. |
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10-18-2012, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by EmilyB Bets? Next one boy, black.
ETA: sorry, didn't realize it was a questionable breeder.
Think I'll still watch though. | Quote:
Originally Posted by RottenVonSpotten Sorry, didn't mean to rain on your parade. I'm still watching too for what it's worth lol. | Bad breeder or not I still don't feel as ..."wrong" as watching a FD birthing video, plus it's also good education to a degree...something most people don't get to see.
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10-18-2012, 10:39 PM
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| Thanks Rotten for giving some info/background on the breeder. I would like it to be known that I in no way endorse or support this breeder, simply saw the link posted on another rescuer's page and wanted to pass it on because I have never seen puppies delivered and thought others might like to see it too.
As for someone saying the link didn't work, I think it might just be getting high traffic. It was starting to freeze for me a couple times and then went unavailable completely for a short bit. Seems to be working again though.
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10-18-2012, 10:47 PM
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| Oh, I didn't realize it was a questionable breeder. I'm still going to watch because this will probably be the only time I will see pups being born. Still interesting to watch though.
I have to have something to do while I sit and wait for the recovery on my SD card (lesson learned always take them off the card when done taking photos).
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10-18-2012, 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by SpecialK Thanks Rotten for giving some info/background on the breeder. I would like it to be known that I in no way endorse or support this breeder, simply saw the link posted on another rescuer's page and wanted to pass it on because I have never seen puppies delivered and thought others might like to see it too.
As for someone saying the link didn't work, I think it might just be getting high traffic. It was starting to freeze for me a couple times and then went unavailable completely for a short bit. Seems to be working again though. |
When some of the information started surfacing, I was really disappointed. I think if she was health testing and not breeding merles, etc., this would be really cool. I do think that this program does speak volumes about the temperament of the dogs she is producing though and that is encouraging.
ETA: I can't believe how long it takes between puppies. I'm too impatient for this!
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10-18-2012, 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by EmilyB Bets? Next one boy, black.
ETA: sorry, didn't realize it was a questionable breeder.
Think I'll still watch though. | Oooh close....black GIRL 
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10-18-2012, 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by RottenVonSpotten When some of the information started surfacing, I was really disappointed. I think if she was health testing and not breeding merles, etc., this would be really cool. I do think that this program does speak volumes about the temperament of the dogs she is producing though and that is encouraging.
ETA: I can't believe how long it takes between puppies. I'm too impatient for this! | Yeah, it really is disappointing. Especially if the hard part is already being done (temperament and proven history of successful service dogs) it would seem health testing would be the easy part. Only that costs money.
And I couldn't believe it either. I missed the first one and was waiting forever thinking the next one was coming! They seem to be speeding up a little bit now though. I think I read somewhere they are expecting 7-9, but not sure if that was accurate info.
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10-18-2012, 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by SpecialK Yeah, it really is disappointing. Especially if the hard part is already being done (temperament and proven history of successful service dogs) it would seem health testing would be the easy part. Only that costs money.
And I couldn't believe it either. I missed the first one and was waiting forever thinking the next one was coming! They seem to be speeding up a little bit now though. I think I read somewhere they are expecting 7-9, but not sure if that was accurate info. | I've only seen puppies being born once, but for some reason I was under the impression that these puppies would pop out one after the other...as if she was pooping them out.
Next puppy:
My guess is another heavily marked harl male  |
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10-18-2012, 11:11 PM
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| Harl female.  |
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10-18-2012, 11:12 PM
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Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Dogs Name: Stormy (Dobe rescue), Priscilla RIP--OSA (Dobe Rescue) Carson (GSD) Sydney(Breeder rehome) Titles: ADD, OCD, BAD, FAT Dogs Age: 11,10(RIP), 8, 6
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Originally Posted by RottenVonSpotten I've only seen puppies being born once, but for some reason I was under the impression that these puppies would pop out one after the other...as if she was pooping them out.  | I am going to make a wild guess that you have never given birth......  |
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10-18-2012, 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by RottenVonSpotten I've only seen puppies being born once, but for some reason I was under the impression that these puppies would pop out one after the other...as if she was pooping them out.
Next puppy:
My guess is another heavily marked harl male  | Ooh I hope so, but smaller than the last one...OUCH! #4 seemed much easier on Mama. Hopefully the rest will be like that. More Harls, more males!! GO GO GO! 
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10-18-2012, 11:30 PM
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Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Dogs Name: Stormy (Dobe rescue), Priscilla RIP--OSA (Dobe Rescue) Carson (GSD) Sydney(Breeder rehome) Titles: ADD, OCD, BAD, FAT Dogs Age: 11,10(RIP), 8, 6
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| That boy is going to be walking soon........ |
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10-18-2012, 11:38 PM
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Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Dogs Name: Stormy (Dobe rescue), Priscilla RIP--OSA (Dobe Rescue) Carson (GSD) Sydney(Breeder rehome) Titles: ADD, OCD, BAD, FAT Dogs Age: 11,10(RIP), 8, 6
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| oh oh.
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10-18-2012, 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by EmilyB I am going to make a wild guess that you have never given birth......  | How could you tell?
I missed the sex of the most recent puppy... |
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10-18-2012, 11:59 PM
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| 3 girls now 2 boys. Last one was kind of concerning but seems okay now. |
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10-19-2012, 12:51 AM
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Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Dogs Name: Stormy (Dobe rescue), Priscilla RIP--OSA (Dobe Rescue) Carson (GSD) Sydney(Breeder rehome) Titles: ADD, OCD, BAD, FAT Dogs Age: 11,10(RIP), 8, 6
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| I've stared at that mom dog so long I can see a world map on her. She's sleeping and I am betting done except for that surprise puppy a little later on.
Question: At what point do you poke around for remaining puppies ?
In spite of questionable health testing, this was an awesome example of what a whelping should be like in so far as care and cleanliness, imo. |
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10-19-2012, 12:51 AM
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| If anyone is still up watching, you can see her contractions become stronger, more frequent, and more productive, and you will see her start to push. She will glance around sharply at her hindquarters, too, just before she pushes out another one.
^^^Tips for all those who said they keep missing the actual delivery of each pup
Shame about the breeder and the lack of health testing--I guess I never realized how many here have never seen a bitch whelp.
I've helped with whelpings working for a couple breeders (not Dobermans, two other breeds) and also have helped with pregnant rescue bitches.
It is pretty awe-inspiring, and yes, many of the girls want you there, and do better with you there. The key is to be unobtrusive when appropriate, and what little bit I've seen on the feed, they look like the helpers are behaving very appropriately.
For all those who want birth to be a rapid, explosive occurence...watch a mare give birth.
Down, done, and over in twenty minutes or less, if everything goes well.
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10-19-2012, 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by RedFawnRising For all those who want birth to be a rapid, explosive occurence...watch a mare give birth.
Down, done, and over in twenty minutes or less, if everything goes well. | Oh yah, ker sploosh, plop....  |
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10-19-2012, 06:47 AM
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| I just woke up to find 7 pups, 4 girls & 3 boys. I was just in time to see #8 delivered, but things don't look so good for him/her. I don't think he/she made it. 
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10-19-2012, 08:44 AM
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| I missed them alL1 Im so bummed. Is momma done? She looks exhausted.
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10-19-2012, 12:47 PM
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| Yeah, looks like they lost the last lil bit. 
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10-19-2012, 03:30 PM
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| She had 10 in total and lost 2. |
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11-09-2012, 12:46 AM
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| They sure are growing, and all I see them do is eat this time of night....poor mom.  |
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11-09-2012, 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by EmilyB They sure are growing, and all I see them do is eat this time of night....poor mom.  | Wow, I haven't been watching them since they were born...just checked on them and they are huge! I will have to look at them again later because now they are just a sleeping, breathing, twitching puppy pile. 
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