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Old 02-04-2013, 04:58 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi from Shenzhen, China

Hey guys,

we finally got a Doberman. The Missus always wanted one, since she got run over by one. Women, nobody understands them.

I had a look around the internet and found a small BYB half way across town. We went there and he presented this poor little thing. Dirty, skinny as hell and lots of spots where the hair was missing. We actually didn't want it at that point, but after talking a while with the "breeder" it turned out that the father of the little pup belongs to a friend of us, so we took her anyway.

She is 6 months old and super skinny. She didn't know how to walk properly from being in a crate all the time. It's getting better with every day, but she is still moving funny on her rear legs. She is also sitting funny, on her butt with the legs up, like a human would sit.
The owners of her dad told me she is lacking calcium, any ideas if that could be true? I'm sure to post a few more threads with all the questions I got.

Here are some pics of the little Girl. Her name is "Jing Jing"



Her right ear is flopping over, which is also blamed on the lack of calcium. Should I post it again, or just give calcium supplements and wait?


And the Husky, 2 year old female "Faith".



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she's cute, but i would research same sex aggression and how to handle it if it presents itself in another 18 months. don't want either dog hurting the other (as dobes are prone to it). and i would post that ear.
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Old 02-04-2013, 06:10 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Good too see that its going to get a proper life! Does look like she stands a bit dodgy! Is she knuckling over a bit on that front right?
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Doberman puppies should be kept on the light side. She actually doesn't look skinny to me. At least I don't see any of the spine or a bunch of ribs. Don't know about how she sits. Does she seem to gait alright...no limping or favoring a leg?

You should post at least that one ear. It may have a pocket causing it to flip over on top of her head. Try using the search for Pockets as there are many threads about them
There ate several stickys on how to post if you have never done that

Don't give her calcium.

What are you feeding her?
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Old 02-04-2013, 08:08 AM   #5 (permalink)
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@LindaH: Thanks for the reply. I'm feeding Prey Model Raw, she is still on chicken wings only, since it's the first week for her.

She seems to be favoring her right hind leg, but not as much as when we got her 3 days ago.
I made another picture, not sure what to look at though.


I'm going to read about pockets and re-post the right ear. Thanks
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Glad you found us but sad to see that you knowingly supported an irresponsible breeder. Your girl got lucky with you but it sucks that the BYB has more incentive to keep doing what they're doing.
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Welcome. Her ears need to be posted correctly in order to stand. As Linda H mentioned you should not give her calcium! There's some information on posting the ears and a how-to of sorts in the ear cropping and posting section of the site.
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Old 02-04-2013, 09:02 AM   #8 (permalink)
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@ZeldaRules: Unfortunately there isn't much choice here in China. The "breeder" is a licensed pet shop, but still something that would classify as BYB where I'm from.
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It's hard to know but she could have permanent damage from her previous treatment, especially lack of exercise. You might want to get her hips checked out.

Six months is borderline for physically coming out of previous poor treatment. Is she normal sized? She should weigh approximately 45 to 50 lbs or more at six months.

Looks like something might be going on with that right front leg, too. You need to get that checked out with a veterinarian that knows large breed dogs.

Are you able to take her outside to play and exercise on grass, not hard surfaces like hard packed dirt or concrete. Shr needs to do that at least an hour twice a day.

Do you know how to feed raw. A balance raw diet would be wonderful for her. Just keep the calcium normal. Excess calcium can cause abnormal bone growth in large breed puppies and her right front leg looks like she may already have a problem. I am not a vet and it could just be the picture. Try to keep her on carpets, rugs or runners as much as possible because of that "maybe problem" leg.

I hope she is okay as she deserves a good life. She looks to be a pretty "little" girl.
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We've just been to the vet to weigh her and have her checked out.
She comes in at 27.5 lbs !

Just from observing her walking around the vet concluded that she shouldn't have a problem with her legs, but we've nevertheless booked her for X-Ray on the 7th.

I'm currently taking her out for playing and walking twice a day. In the morning we go downstairs and play on the lawn for about an hour (Time includes taking the Husky to do her business, so play time might be less.)

In the evening we walk her to the lawn where all the dog owners in the area meet and play with the other dogs. The walk is about 20 minutes on pavement and then we play for about 40 - 50 mins. Then she rides home in the car with the missus while I jog back with the Husky.

Unfortunately I can't keep her on carpet at home since we have only wood and stone flooring.

I'm already feeding the Husky on a raw diet so it shouldn't be a problem for the dobe. I'm feeding her 4% of the body weight, a little bit over a lbs per day.

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It's hard to know but she could have permanent damage from her previous treatment, especially lack of exercise. You might want to get her hips checked out.

Six months is borderline for physically coming out of previous poor treatment. Is she normal sized? She should weigh approximately 45 to 50 lbs or more at six months.

Looks like something might be going on with that right front leg, too. You need to get that checked out with a veterinarian that knows large breed dogs.

Are you able to take her outside to play and exercise on grass, not hard surfaces like hard packed dirt or concrete. Shr needs to do that at least an hour twice a day.

Do you know how to feed raw. A balance raw diet would be wonderful for her. Just keep the calcium normal. Excess calcium can cause abnormal bone growth in large breed puppies and her right front leg looks like she may already have a problem. I am not a vet and it could just be the picture. Try to keep her on carpets, rugs or runners as much as possible because of that "maybe problem" leg.

I hope she is okay as she deserves a good life. She looks to be a pretty "little" girl.
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Old 02-07-2013, 02:54 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Just came back from the vet. He said there aren't any big problems with her, but the cup part of her hip joints is apparently a bit too shallow/thin. He now prescribed some Joint Gel for her to be added to the food for a few weeks.
Any ideas if that works at all? Somehow every diagnosis of the vet ends up with him selling some stuff I hope she will eventually turn out healthy and normal.

It contains per 100g

Collagen 5g
Chondroitin Sulfate 5g
Glucosamine 2g
Vc phosphate magnesium 0.45g
Lipoic Acid 0.3g
Manganese 15mg
Zing 70mg
Selenium 600 microgram

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Welcome to the forum, we are really happy to see here .. keep posting & sharing your knowledge with us
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Forgot to add also to change up on different proteins like beef, lamb.
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Did the vet say anything about her front right leg? I see her knuckling over in almost all if you photos. I'm not familiar with your raw diet plan.... Does it include organ meat, bone, and essential trace minerals and oils? An excels premise raw diet is the absolute best way to go unless you are an EXPERT about a proper and balanced diet. I don't even attempt to make my own raw diet.
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