cropping - Doberman Forum : Doberman Breed Dog Forums
New member introduction If you are a new member to please say Hi

LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old 01-23-2013, 02:10 PM Thread Starter
Lil Pup
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 1
Dogs Name: Tell us your dogs name

Gallery Pics: 0
Visit dazzasdoberman's Gallery
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

hi all just wandered whats the legal/moral stants was on cropping dobermans ears and tails??
dazzasdoberman is offline  
post #2 of 7 (permalink) Old 01-23-2013, 02:14 PM
Abby's Avatar
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 2,107

Gallery Pics: 0
Visit Abby's Gallery
Thanks: 5,063
Thanked 5,117 Times in 1,441 Posts
This is a controversial topic, just to warn you.

If you are in the market for a puppy, and considering cropping, remember that the vast majority of ETHICAL breeders will crop each and every puppy. There are many very sound reasons for this. Please do not support a breeder who leaves such a decision up to the owner.
Abby is offline  
post #3 of 7 (permalink) Old 01-23-2013, 02:35 PM
ShelianDobe's Avatar
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 4,495
Location: SW Michigan
Dogs Name: Wheeler, Spock, Fame
Titles: Wheeler - AKC GCH/UKC CH, RO3. Spock - AKC/UKC CH. Fame - AKC/UKC CH.
Dogs Age: Wheeler: 11/13/08 Spock: 07/10/13 Fame: 07/10/13
Gallery Pics: 17
Visit ShelianDobe's Gallery
Thanks: 2,822
Thanked 12,861 Times in 3,291 Posts
Images: 17
It is a matter of personal opinion. I like my dogs cropped and purchase from, as Abby said, a reputable breeder that has puppies cropped before they go home, in addition to health testing and titling the parents.

Welcome to DT. There is a lot of information here, stick around and learn what you are in for with a Dobe pup!

Shelly Wing
AKC GCH/UKC CH, RO3 Lyndobe's Wheel of Fortune, "Wheeler"
AKC UKC CH Windsong's Fortune Hunter v Shelian, "Spock"
AKC UKC CH Windsong's Fame N Fortune v Shelian, "Fame"

ShelianDobe is offline  
post #4 of 7 (permalink) Old 01-23-2013, 02:51 PM
Fitzmar Dobermans's Avatar
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 7,330
Location: S. E. Pennsylvania
Dogs Name: Harvard, Jezebel
Titles: AKC CH & GrCh, RN, CGC & CGCA
Dogs Age: 9, and 5 years
Gallery Pics: 11
Visit Fitzmar Dobermans's Gallery
Thanks: 3,199
Thanked 16,827 Times in 3,719 Posts
Images: 11
Click here to find out how Fitzmar Dobermans became a supporter
I guess the legal slant depends on where you are from. In Pennsylvania, tails must be done by 5 days of age if they are not done by a vet. After 5 days of age, they must be done by a vet. Pennsylvania also requires a certificate of cropping by a veterinarian - which my cropping vet provides and it goes right into the 3 ring folder that goes home with each puppy.

The moral slant is a whole nuther dealie.

Mary Jo Ansel

AKC GRCH/UKC CH Fitzmar's Command A Minute CGC "Harvard"
Fitzmar's Victory Hop Devil RN CGC "Jezebel"
RIP CH. Cha-Rish A Moment Like This RN WAC CGC "Louise" 2/22/2005 - 4/1/2016
Fitzmar Dobermans is offline  
post #5 of 7 (permalink) Old 01-24-2013, 07:03 AM
BrunoNBuggers's Avatar
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 387
Location: Michigan
Dogs Name: Bruno and Bug
Titles: Extra Supreme PITA
Dogs Age: Bruno - 04/2008 * Bug 07/2012
Gallery Pics: 3
Visit BrunoNBuggers's Gallery
Thanks: 635
Thanked 908 Times in 256 Posts
Images: 3
Personally I feel that cropping and docking is something that should be done by the breeder. Both of mine have natural ears, one is docked and the other has a natural tail. (Both are rescues.)

If I were to buy a pup from a breeder, I would insist on careful breeding, genetics testing, and docking/cropping.
BrunoNBuggers is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to BrunoNBuggers For This Useful Post:
greenkouki (01-24-2013)
post #6 of 7 (permalink) Old 01-24-2013, 07:16 AM
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 7,471
Location: TX
Dogs Name: Zelda(siberian husky), Optimus Prime(doberman)
Titles: CGC, Certified Therapy Dog
Dogs Age: 7, 4
Gallery Pics: 12
Visit ZeldaRules's Gallery
Thanks: 9,240
Thanked 21,080 Times in 5,362 Posts
Images: 12
It's currently legal in the US. The morality of it depends on you who talk to. Educate yourself on the procedures and form your own opinion. It's not a crime to have a preference one way or the other. You will face adversity with either choice. With a floppy eared and curly tailed Doberman, you get the "not a real Doberman/hound dog/ew" comments. With a c/d Doberman you run into the "zomg you effing animal abuser/wtf would you do that/how could someone do that/I can't believe you put your dog through a painful and traumatic procedure."

So just make an informed decision and do what you want. At the end of the day it's your dog that you have to look at for 10 or so years. Be happy.
ZeldaRules is offline  
post #7 of 7 (permalink) Old 01-24-2013, 09:59 AM
Super Moderator
greenkouki's Avatar
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 13,520
Location: SC
Dogs Name: Zeus & Kira
Dogs Age: 10 & 5 1/2
Gallery Pics: 77
Visit greenkouki's Gallery
Thanks: 17,331
Thanked 26,454 Times in 8,650 Posts
Images: 77
Click here to find out how greenkouki became a supporter
As stated, reputable breeders generally crop every puppy in the litter as this is a cropped and docked breed. If you want a cropped puppy I would encourage you to only purchase a puppy from a reputable breeder with the pups already cropped because so few veterinarians can crop doberman ears well that it's certainly not fair to lay the burden on the new owner.
greenkouki is offline  

Quick Reply

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Doberman Forum : Doberman Breed Dog Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:


Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome