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I would get that leg looked at asap, especially if you are thinking of showing her...
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Tried to post twice yesterday, but wouldn't go thru for some reason.

She is a nice looking girl.

That leg is very worrisome tho. You should call your nearest DPCA chapter for a reference of a vet that is knowledgeable of large breed puppies, specifically doberman puppies. The leg could self correct or get much worse. I wouldn't suggest waiting it out.

Read the sticky in the puppy section about "Overgrowing Your Puppy..." about feeding and supplimenting large breed puppies. For now you should stop all suppliments and treats except the vit C. You can use the Canidae kibble for training treats. Only use the tiniest amount of the canned food unless it is an all life stages too.

Are you leash walking her for very long distances? Even a block and back is too long. Try to keep her from spending much time on slick surfaces.

Please do keep us informed on her progress.
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I have an appt to see our Vet on Feb 2nd. Her 12 wk ck up! The leg doesn't always look so 'knuckled', just off and on. I'll try to post a new pic of her when they are straighter looking!

We did put down rugs on our kitchen floor,..although she spends most of the day in the great room, (carpeted area).

As for walks,..I am very limited because of the freezing temps here, (single digits, and teens right now, but mostly in the 20's and 30's for our typical winter), she can't tolerate the cold; AND, since she's only had one set of puppy shots so far, I don't want to chance even taking her to the pet store to walk yet,..(not safe),...who knows 'what' comes in there!! I am very limited on space in my house, but you're right, she definitely needs more exercise! Can't wait till Spring!

Why is Cannidae all life stages food not good? She gets only about a tsp of wet, BB Freedom for puppies, just to moisten the food. My breeder recommended the puppy calcium w phosphorous (only for only a few months),..why is that dangerous? I feel I should trust my breeders 40+ yrs of experience, and right now, I see no reason to question that judgement because of the history of gorgeous, healthy, quality, champion show/performance dogs, with top accolades.

I definitely will look into DPCA to see if they agree with my choice of Vet's. Although my Vet has been in practice for many years, and I've been with him for several years, I do wonder how much experience he has with the Doberman breed!
Also I will check out the post you recommended re:"Overgrowing your puppy".

Thanks again for your feedback,..I'll be sure to post progress reports!
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Even with freezing temps, you can still dress her for the weather and take her outside to play.

Rocket has several sweaters that do very nicely. Once you get them warm, they don't notice. Pick up a flirt pole for fun, that'll wear her out fast!


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Thanks so much for your reply!
I have an appt to see our Vet on Feb 2nd. Her 12 wk ck up! The leg doesn't always look so 'knuckled', just off and on. I'll try to post a new pic of her when they are straighter looking!

We did put down rugs on our kitchen floor,..although she spends most of the day in the great room, (carpeted area).

As for walks,..I am very limited because of the freezing temps here, (single digits, and teens right now, but mostly in the 20's and 30's for our typical winter), she can't tolerate the cold; AND, since she's only had one set of puppy shots so far, I don't want to chance even taking her to the pet store to walk yet,..(not safe),...who knows 'what' comes in there!! I am very limited on space in my house, but you're right, she definitely needs more exercise! Can't wait till Spring!

Why is Cannidae all life stages food not good? She gets only about a tsp of wet, BB Freedom for puppies, just to moisten the food. My breeder recommended the puppy calcium w phosphorous (only for only a few months),..why is that dangerous? I feel I should trust my breeders 40+ yrs of experience, and right now, I see no reason to question that judgement because of the history of gorgeous, healthy, quality, champion show/performance dogs, with top accolades.

I definitely will look into DPCA to see if they agree with my choice of Vet's. Although my Vet has been in practice for many years, and I've been with him for several years, I do wonder how much experience he has with the Doberman breed!
Also I will check out the post you recommended re:"Overgrowing your puppy".

Thanks again for your feedback,..I'll be sure to post progress reports!
Didn't say the Canidae was bad for her or to stop feeding it, just said you could use it for treats...instead of whatever you are giving now.

You will just have to do what you feel best for your puppy. We don't agree with the extra calcium, but she's your puppy and I understand why you feel the way you do.

It is good that she doesn't knuckle over all the time.

Best wishes and be sure to keep us updated and to stay and post pictures as she grows.

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Didn't say the Canidae was bad for her or to stop feeding it, just said you could use it for treats...instead of whatever you are giving now.

You will just have to do what you feel best for your puppy. We don't agree with the extra calcium, but she's your puppy and I understand why you feel the way you do.

It is good that she doesn't knuckle over all the time.

Best wishes and be sure to keep us updated and to stay and post pictures as she grows.
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Even with freezing temps, you can still dress her for the weather and take her outside to play.

Rocket has several sweaters that do very nicely. Once you get them warm, they don't notice. Pick up a flirt pole for fun, that'll wear her out fast!
Never heard of a "flirt pole",..what is it?
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Your little girl is beautiful!! You have a big obligation to train her daily and exercise her daily,no matter what the weather. Here are some tips:

A flirt pole is this: Dog Flirt Pole- Exersize, Training, Prey Drive Toy/Tool.mov - YouTube.

I make my own, it's very easy and cheap. They are the BEST thing for wearing out a puppy. For a very young pup like yours I would cut a stick about 2.5 feet long out of a young thin sapling tree. Cut off all the side branches very close, and sand the stick smooth. I use a thin nylon cord from the hardware store and a toy that my dog has never seen (soft toy that is easy for the pup to grab). If you don't have access to a sapling, you could use a thin dowel but it will not be nice and flexible like the sapling stick. Tie the cord securely to the stick end and make a slip knot at the other end to put around the toy. That way you can rotate toys, wash the toy, etc. There are more videos showing you how to use it. With a young puppy, do NOT tug upward on the line with the pup, don't lift the pup off his feet, don't jerk the toy hard, and be sure to let him grab and carry the toy a lot so that he feels successful at the chase. He will quit if he doesn't get to "win" a lot.

PLEASE get a good book on puppy training and train with your puppy several times/day for a few minutes. You can find a ton of excellent training videos for working with puppies on everything from sit to loose leash walking on YouTube at Kikopup's channel.

You must get this puppy outside every day. Puppies do not get sick from being outside and they really need the stimulation, fresh air, and sunlight. Do you have a fenced yard?

Again, get up to speed and devote some serious time to learning how to train your new puppy. Dobermans are extremely smart and MUST HAVE a job. Training satisfies that need! Keep us posted - hope we get lots more photos too.

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im haveing trouble getting my moses to calm down in the house i live in arkansas and its been very cold and inclimate here and he dont get out much but i did built him a run pen but he cant stay out much and he likes to nip my wife and i dont have a lot of money for obedience school any ideas i love him but if he dont stop some of these things ill have to get rid of him hes full blooded with papers so i hate to get rid of him hes 14 months and he weighs 105 hes a big boy any suggestions
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im haveing trouble getting my moses to calm down in the house i live in arkansas and its been very cold and inclimate here and he dont get out much but i did built him a run pen but he cant stay out much and he likes to nip my wife and i dont have a lot of money for obedience school any ideas i love him but if he dont stop some of these things ill have to get rid of him hes full blooded with papers so i hate to get rid of him hes 14 months and he weighs 105 hes a big boy any suggestions
Basic puppy classes are not expensive. I can't imagine having funds to acquire and feed a papered Doberman but not the funds for something like the puppy class at petsmart. The fundamentals aren't something easy to learn watching videos out reading forums. That training is for the human not so much as for the dog by the way so if it is out of the question, I'd call it quits on dogs. 14 months is still adolescent, so nipping as an impulse is normal. There are training articles to address that explicitly. The energy needs an outlet. It doesn't take much space to do things like retrieval exercises. Between that and basic puppy training you could have him behaved pretty quickly, but you have to do your part.

Also this was an ancient thread. You might be better off starting a new thread.

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