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Old 12-08-2012, 08:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Exclamation help me with some training tips pleasse:)

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im new to this site and im not even 100% sure how to use it so im sorry if this is in the wrong place. i love dobermans i have since i was little. i always wanted a junk yard dog and finally i got one. the only problem is when i read up on dobermans i thought that i would have no trouble training and what not. i am having a few problems with what the proper way is to train him. hes good with sit down and lay down. but when it comes to him being outside and hes going free i can not get him to come back unless i stomp my foot i can tell him to come here 100 times and he just ignores me. so please help me with that! and another thing i could use some help with is walking him , he tends to walk me and its making me not want to take him out anymore. sometimes there are days when he will not stop crying he makes a whistle sound and i cant stop him it drives me nut!
i would love any help possible
thank you
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Old 12-08-2012, 08:08 PM   #2 (permalink)
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A junk yard dog?
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Please, tell me that your "junk yard dog" comment is a joke. I would recommend that you find a trainer and enroll in obedience classes.

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Old 12-08-2012, 08:47 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Don't let a dog loose till his learnt to come back. Simple.
My puppy at 16 weeks comes back every time I call now.
I still take him out with a 20'' lead so he can free run etc.
But I wouldn't personally let my dog off if he doesn't come back.
If he gets hit by a car, attacked by a dog, etc I'd never forgive myself.

The crying is probably frustration. Are you mentally stimulating him too?
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Old 12-08-2012, 10:57 PM   #5 (permalink)
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hello
im new to this site and im not even 100% sure how to use it so im sorry if this is in the wrong place. i love dobermans i have since i was little. i always wanted a junk yard dog and finally i got one. the only problem is when i read up on dobermans i thought that i would have no trouble training and what not. i am having a few problems with what the proper way is to train him. hes good with sit down and lay down. but when it comes to him being outside and hes going free i can not get him to come back unless i stomp my foot i can tell him to come here 100 times and he just ignores me. so please help me with that! and another thing i could use some help with is walking him , he tends to walk me and its making me not want to take him out anymore. sometimes there are days when he will not stop crying he makes a whistle sound and i cant stop him it drives me nut!
i would love any help possible
thank you
It sounds as if you could use an obedience course & some help with how to get through to your dog.

Don't stamp your foot - when you are working on 'come here', use a long lead, let the dog to to the end of it & then call him. As you call him, walk backwards (without pulling) so that he finds you interesting. If you chase him, or stomp your foot or yell - he won't want to come. If you look and sound interesting & give him treats or cuddles when he comes, he'll learn what to do when you call.

I got a trained 4.5 year old dog & the first thing I did was sign up for obedience - so I could learn what to do with her. She didn't need it, but I did. It sounds like both of you could use some help.
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Old 12-11-2012, 11:19 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Welcome to DT. I know others have commented on the junkyard dog post, but they're right. Dobermans are a breed that needs to be with their people as inside dogs, 24/7. They make lousy 'junkyard dogs.' Really, I don't support the idea of any dog being a junkyard dog- too risky for the dog to potentially be poisoned by someone, or stolen, or let out, etc.

Dobes are a whiny breed. Griffin whines when it's dinner time. He whines when he knows we're going somewhere in the car. He whines when he wants to play. And he screams like a little girl when the vet has to give him a shot. You can teach 'quiet', but know that this is a breed that's known for being talkative.

You didn't say how old your Dobe is. That would help with training. So would taking an obedience class. Dobes are very intelligent, and they respond best to fair, consistent training. There are several options for leash training, and going to an obedience class will let you learn about those. You'll also have a chance to work your dog around distractions. A word of caution about training aids- head collars (aka Gentle Leaders) aren't always a good idea for Dobermans. This breed is prone to Wobblers and other neck/spine problems, and a head collar could injure your Doberman.

Recalls are tough to teach any dog, especially outside with a lot of distractions. I actually start mine inside the house with no distractions and then step it up to outside. If your Dobe is food motivated, slice up a bunch of cheese and use that as a food reward while he's learning what 'come here' means. And a proper response to 'come here' should be making a fuss over your dog like he just brought you the winning Powerball ticket. Never call a dog to you to correct him- go to the dog instead. You don't want him associating either his name or the command 'come' with being punished. That's also why if you're frustrated, the dog won't come. Dobes are very, very sensitive to their people's moods and he'll know if you're upset or frustrated.

If you could tell us a little more about your Dobe, how old he is, where and when you got him, that would help too. Puppies are different, and if you've got a puppy, a lot of the issues you're seeing might just be because you have a baby dog and not an adult Dobe who's actually discovered he has an adult brain.
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Welcome, I think everyone has given you a lot of good advise.

From your bio it looks like your dog is 10 months old so a little history about your dog would help. As mentioned first thing I would do is enroll in an Obedience class. If you can't do that the long line is an excellent idea, all you are doing by calling your dog 100 times is teaching him that he can ignore you.

I'm not sure what the reference to Junkyard dog means either. But you are dealing with a very intelligent and strong willed breed, you need to become the Alpha through bonding, training and patience. Remeber he is still a puppy so it is up to you to lead him. Good Luck.
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Old 12-11-2012, 12:00 PM   #8 (permalink)
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court yard , back yard...but not junk yard! good luck with the training!
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Old 12-11-2012, 12:12 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Everyone else is addressing the junkyard dog thing, so I will talk about something else. Be careful with saying "Come, come, come, come, COME!!" over and over again, because it can become what my trainer likes to call a "poisoned" word. It will simply mean nothing because you said it too many times with no response.

Try a long lead, and when you call him, say his name, followed by "come" once. For example, for me, it would be Brandy, come (with a hand signal)!! Then you can make whatever enticing noise or treat you want, to make him come. If he comes to you, then you should praise him like it is the best thing in the world! If he doesn't come after many noises (whistling, clapping, jumping excitedly), then you can bring him in with the lead, but praise him as he goes, as if he is coming to you by himself.

For leash training, whenever Brandy gets to the end of the leash, my trainer says to say Steady! and turn the opposite way. You can randomly turn and change direction while saying Look out! so that he knows you are in control, and you are picking the direction.

You can also try a treat that he never ever gets unless he comes to you. This way, he associates COME! with some delicious food, so when he hears COME when he is outside, he thinks HOT DOG TIME! or something to that extent.

Anyway, I think a trainer could really help you with your dog, because they all have different ways of learning. Try an obedience class that addresses recall and leash walking specifically!
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