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Old 02-07-2013, 06:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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HELP! Doberman won't stop peeing in house ONLY when I am home!

Hi all, my dobe is 1 year and a half old and I have been having some problems for almost 6 months now with him peeing in the house. He had an entire urinalysis done (costing me almost 400 dollars) only to find out he is medically fine. He has not had any new stressors or anything.

He has been left alone for a maximum of 10 hours without an accident.

His walk schedule looks like this:
6:45 AM
3:00 PM
7:00 PM
10:00PM

He ALWAYS makes it through his longest stretch from 6:45 to 3:00 without a problem, for some reason, if I am home and not paying him absolute attention, he will pee. I thought first because it was always this certain spot that it was just something about the spot so I bought that nature's miracle stuff and depeed everything twice over. No luck. So, then I moved his crate to the spot, and what did he do? Now he just pees somewhere else. He doesn't have a designated spot anymore. Now he just pees wherever he wants. He ONLY does it when I am home and he ONLY does it when I am not paying him attention. Is it possible that a dog does it for attention? I am at my wits end with this because, as you know, doberman sized pees are not small.

I don't want to leave him in his crate for more hours than he is out of it during the day, but at this point he is leaving me without very many options...

Please help.
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Maybe go back to basics, tethering him to you, and crate him if you can't keep an eye on him.
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He ALWAYS makes it through his longest stretch from 6:45 to 3:00 without a problem, for some reason, if I am home and not paying him absolute attention, he will pee. I thought first because it was always this certain spot that it was just something about the spot so I bought that nature's miracle stuff and depeed everything twice over. No luck. So, then I moved his crate to the spot, and what did he do? Now he just pees somewhere else. He doesn't have a designated spot anymore. Now he just pees wherever he wants. He ONLY does it when I am home and he ONLY does it when I am not paying him attention. Is it possible that a dog does it for attention? I am at my wits end with this because, as you know, doberman sized pees are not small.
/snip, Bold mine.

It could be that he's bored and wants the attention. How long is each of those walks? Is it just a pee break, or is it more involved? Do you do training with him at any part of the day, what kind, and how long? It could be he has mental and physical energy that he needs to burn and doesn't know how to appropriately deal with it.
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/snip, Bold mine.

It could be that he's bored and wants the attention. How long is each of those walks? Is it just a pee break, or is it more involved? Do you do training with him at any part of the day, what kind, and how long? It could be he has mental and physical energy that he needs to burn and doesn't know how to appropriately deal with it.
His morning walk and bedtime walks are brief, about 15 minutes. His other walks are longer, between 45 and an hour. I would love to spend more time entertaining him, but my husband was recently deployed and I am a full time teacher and graduate student.

I know that I really just don't have time for him and that rehoming him would be the best choice for him, but he is aggressive and I mean really aggressive. He is a sweetheart with me, but I can't even walk him down the main street he is so aggressive. He was abused by a previous owner and does NOT respond well to training in any setting outside our apartment. He hates every human being that isn't me or my husband.

This has been a problem for an extended period of time though now. Even before my husband was deployed and he got more attention. Also, it is winter where I am at right now and he can only tolerate subzero temperatures for so long.
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His morning walk and bedtime walks are brief, about 15 minutes. His other walks are longer, between 45 and an hour. I would love to spend more time entertaining him, but my husband was recently deployed and I am a full time teacher and graduate student.

I know that I really just don't have time for him and that rehoming him would be the best choice for him, but he is aggressive and I mean really aggressive. He is a sweetheart with me, but I can't even walk him down the main street he is so aggressive. He was abused by a previous owner and does NOT respond well to training in any setting outside our apartment. He hates every human being that isn't me or my husband.

This has been a problem for an extended period of time though now. Even before my husband was deployed and he got more attention. Also, it is winter where I am at right now and he can only tolerate subzero temperatures for so long.
Poor guy...he's lucky that you two took him in!

I hear you on the subzero temperatures. In the winter, I resort to indoor trick training, and frequently use toys (Kongs, the Monster Mouth) to feed Elka rather than just dumping the food in her bowl. That way her overly active Doberman brain is still occupied for a period of time, and it takes the edge off. We'll still play chase in the backyard (I'd throw the tennis balls, but they froze to the fence), and work on "Go to" style cues: "go upstairs" "go to the couch" "go to the kitchen", etc. I don't know about your apartment setup (whether you live above somebody or not, for instance), but you could try and see if he'll chase a laser pointer? Granted, some dogs can get neurotic about it as well, so it may or may not suit your individual dog.

You might also see if there's a veterinary behaviorist in your area, to help you manage his aggression. They will likely have recommendations for you, perhaps things that you haven't tried yet?
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if possible teach him some tricks work on obedience that will help tire him out if you have room maybe a treadmill in the house maybe a used one jog-a-dog ? Good Luck
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HELP! Doberman won't stop peeing in house ONLY when I am home!

I have a similar problem with my 2 yr old male. We will potty outside but it's like he saves some if his poo and if I do something like go upstairs to fold laundry or shower he'll go poo downstairs. He doesn't do this to my husband and he'll do it even if he was just outside. It's like he does it out of spite. Our female has no problems like this. I'm almost at wits end! I'm positive he's pissed that I'm not snuggling on the couch with him but laundry doesn't fold itself and I do invite him to come upstairs with me but he'll run downstairs just to poo. Any advise?


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I have a similar problem with my 2 yr old male. We will potty outside but it's like he saves some if his poo and if I do something like go upstairs to fold laundry or shower he'll go poo downstairs. He doesn't do this to my husband and he'll do it even if he was just outside. It's like he does it out of spite. Our female has no problems like this. I'm almost at wits end! I'm positive he's pissed that I'm not snuggling on the couch with him but laundry doesn't fold itself and I do invite him to come upstairs with me but he'll run downstairs just to poo. Any advise?


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Your two year old male would be tethered to me if he'd been pulling a stunt like sneaking off to poop in the house.

Dogs brains don't work in ways that have them doing things out of "spite".

Some dogs poop once and then in a short period of time poop again.

Pretend he's a puppy not a two year old and go back to keeping him in view at all times--regard it as a retraining program. Do not let him out of your sight unless you've crated him.

Over the years with puppies and adult dogs who need training or retraining I've found I can actually fold laundry, cook and clean with a dog attached to me. It may be a pain in the neck but he'll keep doing it unless you train him not to--if you can't see him you can't correct him.

Start over and good luck.
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Belly Bands work well. You might try that but if you use the crate, I've never had to use them. Normally, dobes house train very easily.

Are you crating him when you are not at home? If not, do that and take him right out when you get home. Sometimes you just have to start over. If he is going in the house, you have to break the habit and that maybe using the crate until he understand he is to go outside. Change his schedule and use the crate. Reward him for going outside. Don't give him a chance to go inside to break his habit. In a few weeks, you can try trusting him again.
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