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Old 01-18-2013, 12:14 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I have a 6 month old dobermann and have been having problems with her. Everytime i bring her to the park she barks, growls and lunges at other people especially small children and is worse to other dogs. There was once i couldn't control her and she jumped on another much larger dog. She even manage to escape from her leash once and jumped on a small boy. I think she's just really excited rather than aggressive as she cried and whine when i pulled her away from jumping on that dog and she was just sniffing the small boy, but people who don't know her will think otherwise. I read that some behaviour problems stem from lack of exercise and excess energy , but i can't even take her out a walk safety. Even when there is no one around the park it's difficult to walk her cause she's always pulling on the leash. I've even sent her for a one month obedience training but it seems she only takes commands with the choke chain on and indoors.
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Old 01-18-2013, 01:14 AM   #2 (permalink)
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You are about five minutes from this maybe escalating to a problem that's gonna be difficult to deal with... now, I suspect you got a puppy what simply don't know how to act... and, you don't have Clue #1 what to do about it.

Sending her away does nothing to teach YOU how to train/manage/handle your dog. I would suggest you find a local all-breed obedience training club which offers classes to the public, and enroll yourself and your girl, pronto. If you either post here or send me a message, either I or someone else might be able to steer you in the right direction.

What is your pup's life like? Do you have a fenced yard for her? Does she go anywhere on a regular basis? Does she interact with any other dogs? In a week's time, how many people other than her immediate family does she get to interact with? From whom did you acquire your pup, and how old was she when you got her?
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Please do not send her away you both need to go to class no one can train a 6 month old in a month never happen. 1st she is a puppy 2nd you do not know how they really trained her were hash methods used. 3rd sending her away she is not bonding to you. Look up NILF you can google it that may help.get some training books, clicker training is good way. praise and treats do not hurt either. Happy training.
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You need a professional, and you need to work with them and learn how to work with your dog. I suggest contacting trainers from this list that are in your area: Search for Professionals
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Problem #1 - owners needs TRAINED, before the dog can LEARN & start to BEHAVE.
- sending your girl away, was totally pointless / YOU, need time invested
PROBLEM #2 - dog park visits, just making matters worse....AVOID for now 100%.

Start group OB ASAP - not just intro/beginner crap...rather to advanced level, is best & necessary (both of you, will gain much)...to solve problems.
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Depending on your level of experience with dogs you may have questions about why your dog is displaying problem behaviors. It's very easy to react inappropriately to common problem behaviors such as chewing, biting, barking and other undesirable things your dog may do.
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Old 01-24-2013, 12:14 AM   #7 (permalink)
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These are not behavior problems, they are lack of socialization, exercise and training problems.
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Old 01-24-2013, 11:24 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I am not an experienced dog trainer at all, and I have a German Shepherd who can be a real handful. I found working one on one with a personal trainer has worked wonders. The nice thing is that my trainer and I have taken Ruki out in public together, and that really helped me to understand how to handle him better. It also just makes me feel more confident having an experienced trainer present. Sometimes dogs can sense if you are nervous, and I think having help makes me less nervous and then Ruki relaxes.

You may end up having to work with a few different trainers to get the results you want. Ruki currently has 2 of them. One of them I feel is better with Ruki, and one is better at training me. My trainers know each other and work together so it has been pretty easy and they don't give conflicting advise. Find somebody who you feel comfortable with, and who is able to help you figure out your goals with your dog, even if your goal is just to have a pet you can walk daily without it being a huge hassel.

Also, is there anywhere you can burn some of her energy off before taking her out in public? I find playing ball with Ruki helps tire him before trying to walk or go out for ice cream (his favorite excursion). We are lucky to have a fenced back yard though, so I know this might not be possible for you.

Don't feel bad about not knowing how to correct the problems - I don't know how either and that is why I rely on the trainers helping me. The bottom line is that I want a nice pet, and I know I have chosen a breed that is probably more difficult to handle than I am ready for and so I need lots of help. The help is out there, and getting it while the dog is still young will be great for both of you.
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Oh, and this might sound like overkill, but it sounds like group training classes might be overwhelming for you with the way your dog currently acts. You can actually bring your dog trainer to training class with you, and they can help you during the first few classes. Or if you don't want to do that then maybe try to meet with the person who will teach the training class ahead of time to let them know some of the problems you are having, and get suggestions on how to get through the first few classes if your dog is really acting up.
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You took this pup as a responsibility. Dogs have a very different way of thinking/acting. When you correct an issue, you need to do it in a way they understand... not through pain though... that causes many more issues.

I agree with the about posts... you need to enroll in classes. Socialization is key, and why she hasn't been properly socialized and had foundation behaviors instilled is questionable. Doberman are a smart breed, please DO NOT ruin this dog because you need to learn with her how to be ambassadors of the breed.

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Start group OB ASAP - not just intro/beginner crap...rather to advanced level, is best & necessary (both of you, will gain much)...to solve problems.
Beaumont, I wish you were closer (like in the same COUNTRY) so we could go have a beer. I suspect we'd have days to fill talking dogs and training.

OP, I concur with this but you are going to have a hard time finding a class that takes your dog through what I consider just the basics.

Heel
Sit
Down
Stay (this covers long sit/long down)
Stand for examination
Recall

It doesn't matter if you are planning to "do" obedience or not. Having these tools in your doggie toolbox are just the basics to any happy dog/human relationship.

I do not train with food and I also do not train with a nailgun and a flamethrower either. (There is a happy middle ground there, honestly)

OP, when you call to find a training course/trainer you like you can sort this all out. He/she will likely have you come early or on an off day so the dog can be evaluated.

As has been stated here better than I could ever say it, YOU need the training; the dog is just a result of what she's learned from you so far. You can turn this around. You will both be happier for it.

Keep us posted.

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Old 01-24-2013, 01:23 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I have a 6 month old dobermann and have been having problems with her. Everytime i bring her to the park she barks, growls and lunges at other people especially small children and is worse to other dogs.


There was once i couldn't control her and she jumped on another much larger dog. She even manage to escape from her leash once and jumped on a small boy. I think she's just really excited rather than aggressive as she cried and whine when i pulled her away from jumping on that dog and she was just sniffing the small boy, but people who don't know her will think otherwise. I read that some behaviour problems stem from lack of exercise and excess energy , but i can't even take her out a walk safety.

Even when there is no one around the park it's difficult to walk her cause she's always pulling on the leash. I've even sent her for a one month obedience training but it seems she only takes commands with the choke chain on and indoors.
I can totally relate! Koda is 2 years old now and he continues to improve everyday with the methods I have adopted. It takes time but be patient. You want to control your dog, you have to think dog. Simply put-animal first, then species then breed and only after that, personality and you have to learn to communicate at each of these levels. If you'd like to know more, I would be happy to share. And if I can just say, before socialising with other animals, giving her tranquillisers, it's YOU that needs the training not her, just like it was for me.

Remember! Large breed, high energy prey driven natural born athlete and dominant breed. What does that tell you? The dog breeds from which the Doberman Pinscher was derived included: the Rottweiler; German Pinscher; Greyhound; and the Manchester Terrier...uh...all very dominant breeds. I stand corrected. So if YOU are not her leader, she will be yours. Bear that in mind. So once again you need to think dog and carefully consider the breed and what they were bread for. She's no Duchshund who I might add can also be very stubborn and dominant but a subtle difference between the two I would say. So if you are not in charge, she is. It's as simple as that and she's walking all over you as Koda was doing to me until my mind was opened to a different way of thinking. It's important that you think correctly, because I swear to you, I sometime think that Koda can read my mind! Energy!
Master the walk! Who is in charge? You or her? In a pack. Does the leader of the pack lead from behind. Establish a pack order in your home-important. It can still be relaxed and lovey-dovey at home, but certain behaviour is unacceptable and should not be tolerated and you need to deal with it positively particularly if she is allowed indoors.

"Dogs descended from wolves, and deep within the psyche of your dog lies instincts it has retained from its wild ancestors. In order to live with and communicate with your dog you need to understand why you must maintain alpha position in the "pack." "http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/topdog.htm

Many here will disagree with this philosophy of dog handling, but it just makes perfect sense. I am not going to recommend who I think you should 'google', the last time I named the person who has helped me tremendously ONLINE and with his dvd's I was shot down!

Exercise important- develop a daily routine of exercise. I'm afraid, I don't think walks are enough. They need to run. Get a 20m rope and take her to an open beach or field and play fetch. Swim her! Koda loves swimming and fetching his favourite toy. Dont let her legs touch the ground for an hour at a time, if you have the time. But she needs to walk well on the leash first. Develop a daily routine that includes A STRUCTURED WALK! It's not ho far you walk, it's how well she walks, where she walks and how she obeys your commands, otherwise you don't move and you put her into the position you want her in before continuing. Until she walks beside you, on the left where you want her, she does not walk in front and take you for the walk. She must ignore other dogs. When you are going on the "structured walk" (in the garden -anywhere) no distractions. Casual stroll late in evening a great time, different story. If you want some advice on this, feel free to ask. Koda is now so disciplined when we walk together. There's no quick fix, but she'll learn quickly. Dogs need to be directed every step of the way when they are with you until they learn. My commands when we walk are, BACK, HEEL AND FREE...to walk ahead with MY permission. You really don't need to go for training, but yes, YOU need training on how to speak dog. The information is out there on the net freely available for you. And all that other "socialisation" business- it stands to reason. Think about any animal or human being, but you need to understand and speak dog.

I wish you all the best and please feel free to message me privately if you wish. I hope this helps! Peace.

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Old 01-24-2013, 01:41 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I would rather go to a one on one training class for starters, just to get her understanding how Dobes react and respond toi you first. angelicatee does mention how her dog is not interacting as she should and angelicatee needs to work out how to deal with these situations...just a thought
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