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11-25-2012, 10:07 AM
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| | Big Pup
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Location: Peoria, Illinois Dogs Name: Tyson Jericho Titles: Toughest Pup in World Dogs Age: 18 weeks
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| Tyson is biting everyone Tyson is 18 weeks old. I know he is teething because I can see new teeth. Currently we are having alot of trouble with him chewing on everything he is not supposed to chew on. When we catch him chewing we redirect him to his toys. This I can deal with however Tyson currently likes biting people's legs, pants, shoes, butt, and crouch. It has gotten very bad over the last few days. His bites hurt and it is very annoying. He really goes after my wife and children but will even get going on myself as well. I am tring to figure out what I can do for a punishment for this behavior. I don't want to hit him but sometimes the bites hurt so badly that you have to to make him stop. I was wondering if a water bottle would help currect this behavior. I was thinking about squirting him with water when he is biting someone. Advice, comments, ideas?
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11-25-2012, 10:27 AM
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| Is he enrolled in a puppy class with obedience training? I'd highly recommend it if he's not. And if you're the only family member who takes him to these classes, it's a good idea to pass on what you've learned to the other members of the family so that they can be consistent in his training.
How much exercise does he get everyday? Do you walk with him?
How much socialization does he get everyday? Do you take him to new places with new smells, people, animals, etc everyday? These experiences are wonderful opportunities for a puppy to learn about their surroundings and to be trained to act appropriately in them. They're also great opportunities for you and your family members to bond with him and to create stable relationships.
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11-25-2012, 10:31 AM
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| | Go Dog Go
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| Do a forum search on bite inhibition. There is a really good article on redirecting & also teaching the dog that biting means that he loses his playmates. (Say "OUCH" loudly & leave the room.)
It's better to teach a puppy not to bite hard than it is to teach them that biting is forbidden. Then they'll have control if something happens later in life & they do snap at or bite someone.
No spray bottles! Redirect onto a toy or distract him.
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11-25-2012, 11:10 AM
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| | Big Pup
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Location: Peoria, Illinois Dogs Name: Tyson Jericho Titles: Toughest Pup in World Dogs Age: 18 weeks
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| He is not currently in professional training. I am hoping to be able to enroll him next month. I am still tring to get all his vet bills paid off from his lepto sickness. He get tons of excersie and lots of socialation. He goes everywhere with me and plays with many of my tenants dogs. (i have noticed he is playing alot harder lately but never growls). He never growls at any person either. He meets alot of people. He is very good most of the time (he was a perfect dog over thanksgiving meeting about 10 new people in one day).
Just sometimes he gets very wild and bites everyone in the family. When it gets bad, I take him away from the family. Either put him in his crate or outside on the deck. I normally leave him alone for 10 to 15 mins then bring him back to the family. Sometimes he goes to sleep when I take him away from the family, then I let him sleep. He may be like my kids and starts being bad when tired.
When we walk he does well. However if we run together he bites.
I am hoping this is typical puppy behavior and he will out grow it with continued training.
Tyson is my first dobi. |
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11-25-2012, 01:38 PM
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| | Big Dog
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| In training, I learned to take my hand over the top of his muzzle. Palm on his muzzle. Then take your fingers and squeeze into his teeth. Basically he bites himself. This worked great for my guy who was a very hard biter.
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11-26-2012, 01:50 PM
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| | Alpha
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| I would focus on showing him what is right vs focusing on how to punish him. My dogs learn a lot faster when I show them what to do.
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11-26-2012, 02:59 PM
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| | Big Pup
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| I can feel your pain - my 10 week old is biting all the time and very hard. I have tried everything!! Last night he was running behind me and actually lunged and took a bite out of the back of my calve. I know everyone says not to use a squirt bottle but the bites are really bad and honestly the more you isolate him or yelp ouch - he comes back 10 fold. Not sure what is going on so will be interested in hearing if anything works for you. |
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11-26-2012, 11:21 PM
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| | Alpha
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| Doberman puppies are shark mouths. My girl chewed on everything. Yell ouch loudly when he chews on you and stop the play or activity you are engaged in. He will learn. They are cute during this stage despite the aggravation. Take a lot of pictures, because you turn your head and they are grown. Good Luck! |
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11-28-2012, 03:33 AM
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| I taught Luna bite inhibition by letting her bite my hand hard and just sat there saying/doing nothing, she learned that this behaviour has no consequence (effect) and so stopped biting hard. I didn't stop 'mouthing' maybe even actively encouraged it as a more appropriate alternative behaviour, as dogs mouths are basically the only way they can interact physically with any kind of precision for investigating, like sharks.
TBH I don't really know what I do with most 'housebreaking' issues, I have been doing them so long I just do them automatically before I think about them. My OH is the queen of housebreaking behaviour modification really though, she is just a natural.
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11-28-2012, 07:00 AM
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| Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt Vandart I taught Luna bite inhibition by letting her bite my hand hard and just sat there saying/doing nothing, she learned that this behaviour has no consequence (effect) and so stopped biting hard. I didn't stop 'mouthing' maybe even actively encouraged it as a more appropriate alternative behaviour, as dogs mouths are basically the only way they can interact physically with any kind of precision for investigating, like sharks.
TBH I don't really know what I do with most 'housebreaking' issues, I have been doing them so long I just do them automatically before I think about them. My OH is the queen of housebreaking behaviour modification really though, she is just a natural. | ^^^^ +1 with Matt
I also teach pups to bite me first.
And show them that their biting has absolutely zero effect on hurting me, I am their super human in strength.
As a husband I do this with the new pup, so my wife does not have to go through the pain of getting bit hard.
With a pup, I slide 2 fingers behind the dogs back teeth molars, between their softer gum area, and let the dog have an initial hay-day clamping down on me as hard as possible for them.
I am just sitting there, calm & cool as a "cucumber"...just talking in a nice soft normal voice.
- the dog quickly things, WTF...this person has strength and leadership that I need to respect (he just proved it), moving forward...much like the qualities my dober mom had
- since I can't hurt this owners human hand, its not much fun any longer...pup thinks, just reminding me of my weakness
Early soft bite training and muzzle playing, at the youngest age works fast and when the dobe matures with a bite strength of 2000/sq. inch. - they never show it off with loved ones or ever realize the strength they grow into / instead remember the early biting, they could never conquer...and never will.
I also bate the dobe with the tip of my index finger (in fun), to get snapped at (over & over), and laugh my head off, when their mouth is snapping shut on thin air...again, pup just learned, this owner is fun and impossible to ever overtake.
I call my bite work " fight night" and often will do some while settling in the master bed together, for a few minutes.
Even my son's little YorkiePoo will soft bite my hand, when I wake up...I taught him these games to.
I also play lots of tug, and the dogs always wins...while they figure out, Dad let them win eventually (building drive, much eye focus in fun).
- so I do a multiple of play game, to teach acceptable & fun controlled mouthing / that is why I don't avoid, ignore &/or redirect
- I change the behavior in the real bite (when first displayed), and results are speedy and most effective, for the life of the dog
(obviously, easier to do the above, from day1 with a puppy...instead of after it gets big & strong)
With practice - Dogs can learn "you don't bite the hand that feeds them !!
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11-28-2012, 09:15 AM
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| | Narf!
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| Quote:
Originally Posted by Eqstrnathlete In training, I learned to take my hand over the top of his muzzle. Palm on his muzzle. Then take your fingers and squeeze into his teeth. Basically he bites himself. This worked great for my guy who was a very hard biter.
Sent from my iPad using PG Free | this did not work at all for our boy. he finally learned, much later, that biting the people is a bad idea ("toy" removal has always been our most successful training tool). causing him to bite himself just aggravated him and made him more bitey. |
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