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Had an event this evening...all dogs got chews while we watched a movie. Rambo got a compressed rawhide and the other two got a granulated according to their chewing habits. So Rambo was still chewing his when we were getting ready for bed. I took Rambos chew and put it away. Rambo doesn't show any issues with my husband or I with food or treat guarding/aggression. Rambo was fine and then became agitated and rushed the other two dogs who were laying on their bed. Maggie shot up and ran, Rain cut Rambo off from chasing Maggie. They got into it.
When it was all said and done Rain got some scratches on his muzzle but nothing more. There was more yelling than fighting. Rambo went up to Rain almost immediately after the break up and was licking his face and acting completely submissive. Rambo brought Rain his toy and tried to play. Maggie wouldn't let Rambo near her though.
Thoughts on how to address this so that we don't have an event like this again? Should I have let him finish the chew? We don't normally let them bring chews to bed though. It was very strange. Quick to start and quick to end. Then the submissiveness from Rambo to Rain. Maggie doesn't forgive so easy, she was grumpy at Rambo for the rest of the night. We have had no issues other than this. I'm open to ideas and thoughts.




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If it was me, I would not give them chews together. Sounds like this was a problem and I'd seperate them to enjoy their chews. You might not be so lucky in breaking it up next time. Not worth the risk.
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Do they each have a crate? Maybe during down time, let them chew their treats in the crates. Sometimes having alone time and being able to unwind can prevent tension and possible fights.

Is Rain a male dog?

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They do have crates. I will separate from now on for chews. Is there any way to correct the behavior?
Yes Rain is a male. 10.5 yrs neutered GSD. Between our two other dogs Rambo pesters Maggie the most, which I found strange. We prepared to separate/rotate the boys but Rambo is obsessed with Maggie and seems to mess with her just to get her worked up. He and Rain will snuggle on one of the dog beds together, play tug and chase together, and play constantly.
I don't know if Rambo was intentionally rushing Rain or Maggie but Rain stepped in front either way.


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I have a 7 month old male red dobie. We have had him for 5 months and he's never shown aggression at all when it comes to his food, treats, toys etc. We just purchased him a big raw hide, the one with the knots on the ends. This is his first raw hide like that, but hes had the smaller rolled ones. When i went near him this morning, the raw hide was on the floor him on the couch, he growled at me. He did it again when he was chewing it and i went near him to pet him. He didn't do it to my husband, and when my husband was in the room and I went near him he didn't do it, only when we were alone. Is this because he sees me as lower in the pecking order, and he feels more dominant then me. I know this is a high value toy, but it is not his first raw hide. It scared me because hes has never acted like this, and we have a baby on the way. Any suggestions!
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I have a 7 month old male red dobie. We have had him for 5 months and he's never shown aggression at all when it comes to his food, treats, toys etc. We just purchased him a big raw hide, the one with the knots on the ends. This is his first raw hide like that, but hes had the smaller rolled ones. When i went near him this morning, the raw hide was on the floor him on the couch, he growled at me. He did it again when he was chewing it and i went near him to pet him. He didn't do it to my husband, and when my husband was in the room and I went near him he didn't do it, only when we were alone. Is this because he sees me as lower in the pecking order, and he feels more dominant then me. I know this is a high value toy, but it is not his first raw hide. It scared me because hes has never acted like this, and we have a baby on the way. Any suggestions!
Why feed rawhide? Its probably one of the worst things to give to a pup. I still dont understand why people feed their dogs this when there is soo much danger involved.
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I have a 7 month old male red dobie. We have had him for 5 months and he's never shown aggression at all when it comes to his food, treats, toys etc. We just purchased him a big raw hide, the one with the knots on the ends. This is his first raw hide like that, but hes had the smaller rolled ones. When i went near him this morning, the raw hide was on the floor him on the couch, he growled at me. He did it again when he was chewing it and i went near him to pet him. He didn't do it to my husband, and when my husband was in the room and I went near him he didn't do it, only when we were alone. Is this because he sees me as lower in the pecking order, and he feels more dominant then me. I know this is a high value toy, but it is not his first raw hide. It scared me because hes has never acted like this, and we have a baby on the way. Any suggestions!
It has nothing to do with dominance. I suggest finding a qualified positive-reinforcement trainer to work on resource guarding. You may want to pick up a copy of Jean Donaldson's book, "Mine! A Practical Guide to Resource Guarding in Dogs." It's a great step-by-step book on how to work on this issue.

As an aside, I would reconsider feeding rawhide, as they are not terribly safe for dogs. A good raw beef knuckle bone would be a better chew.


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