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Old 07-02-2008, 06:54 AM   #11 (permalink)
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i used the victoria stillwell approach to jumping up with Bruce. Basically just ask people to turn their back on Max til he stops jumping up. so eventually he should learn that jumping up = being ignored and waiting patiently = attention. bruce learnt this quite quickly as he's such an attention seeker! he has now learnt the best way to get attention is to sit and look longingly into people's eyes, that normally does it! and if not, the secret weapon is placing a slobber covered toy on the person's lap! haha (ok so that's not a good behaviour trait to teach them...)
Thanks Nicola Ive tried this one in a half hearted way to be honest. If it worked for you I'll be more confident in it from now on. Many thanks......
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Old 07-02-2008, 06:59 AM   #12 (permalink)
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How about kennel, drop it, find it, watch me.
There's also a working aptitude test that you may want to look into
For kennel we use bedtime, as he doesn't have a kennel. For 'drop it' we use 'leave'. For 'find it' we use 'where is it'(although so far very unsuccessful).

What do you use watch me for? Just to get their focus??
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Old 07-02-2008, 07:03 AM   #13 (permalink)
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ummm...get off the postman?
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You can always go to the library and check out a few books you just scratched the surface.Good Luck
Yes quite true I could get off my lazy back side and search for this information. I will end up doing that pretty soon I think.

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How about NO!! Which means "stop whatever you're doing, you little stinker, or things will become unpleasant!" LOL

(Actually, I tend to use "no" only for emergencies--my boy has only heard it a few times and he's so shocked by my loud nasty "no" that he freezes and waits for the next command.)
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ! yep we use that for those special occasions.
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Old 07-02-2008, 10:36 AM   #14 (permalink)
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We use watch me for focus
Oh and we use WRRRRRONG instead of no for those oh so special occasions.
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Thanks Nicola Ive tried this one in a half hearted way to be honest. If it worked for you I'll be more confident in it from now on. Many thanks......
Yeah i think that's the trick - consistency. there are many different ways to train - different approaches etc but i think the key is to be consistent. if i let bruce get away with something once, he tends to try it on for a bit - he's a mischevious little thing! different ways work for different people as long as they are consistent.

what i also found useful is to have a 'time out zone' - somewhere with no stimulation and no reward for being there. (in other words don't use his crate as otherwise he may end up seeing bed time as a punishment lol). it's almost like the naughty step principle! if i have guests round and he gets too excited, i'll put him in there til he calms down. I repeat this process til he realises if he keeps calm he gets to be where the fun's at! wait a few minutes after he stops whining or having a tantrum before you let him back in with you so he realises it's the 'being quiet and calm bit' that get's him what he wants.

training can really start to boggle your mind when you're reading up - i found it quite overwhelming when i first started training bruce as there are so many ideas and approaches, often which conflict with each other. i decided to stick to the positive reward based methods because i was new to dog training. in my opinion, if you make mistakes using this method the only real negatives are going to be that your dog won't do what you want. i was wary of using the more traditional methods as although they can work, your timing is key and only experience can bring that. and if you get this wrong, i believe it is easier to create a more negative behaviour than that which you started with.

I would recommend searching books which are 'positive reward based' and also maybe consider clicker training (although again, timing is critical for that too!)

you'll get there!

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Old 07-03-2008, 11:31 AM   #16 (permalink)
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for watch me i sit holdingw a dog biscuit on my nose LOL.. they look at you, then you give a treat with the other hand.. not the tread on the nose.. when you are out and they get distracted you can sort of point to your nose say "watch me" they will watch you and calm down and the distractions wont be so distracting...

we do roll over.


where is is.. imo is a bit long.. keep commands short just say find or get it.. something snappy and simple !!

we do leave it with the treat on a paw, they cant touch till you say !!

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