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Old 01-04-2013, 02:06 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Sleep remedies anyone?

So ever since the semester finished Ive been in a funk. First of all i failed all my classes it was like being stabbed in the chest when I saw my grades now i have anxiety and cant sleep until practically sunrise and wont wake up until afternoonish. I was wondering if anyone had an sleep remedies I really can use some been so down its messing with my sleep and i feel all mopey.


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Old 01-04-2013, 02:40 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Melatonin. Either sublingual lozenges or liquid you hold under your tongue for a bit. Start with maybe 3 mg., but more is fine. I used Source Naturals lozenges for years until I realized that I am allergic to sugar alcohols, and now use a liquid made by Solgar.

Valarian capsules work, too, but are more like pharmaceuticals (chemicals is chemicals!)... I don't like it 'cause I wake up fuzzy. Also, it smells soooo AWFUL that I have a hard time even opening the bottle! I get a glass of water ready, take a big breath and hold it, open bottle, get capsule, swallow, then breathe again LOL!

Sometimes, a bit of magnesium helps (I like TwinLabs CellMins)... not too much 'cause it is a laxitive, also.
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Old 01-04-2013, 04:15 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I agree with the above post. I've had good luck with melatonin at night and a lavender bath, candle and lotion. I also really like a sleep or lavender mist you use on your bedding. Also it's not for sleeping but Benadryl always knocks me out right away. If I'm really sleepie my sinus hurt so it's a two for one.
I've used valerian root for back issues and always preferred it over traditional meds. I strongly feel it has a nice relaxing affect. I will say if your anxiety is affecting your daily life see a dr. There are anxiety meds for a reason, no reason to suffer. Feel better, deep breathes, this too will pass.


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I use Dream Water when I cannot sleep. It knocks me out (even during the day) within 30minutes of drinking it. Good stuff.
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If you only need at least one nights rest... gravol lol! But you better make sure you don't need to go anywhere for at least 8 hours.. that stuff makes you groggy (but only for a bit.. at least for me).

If not, melatonin works too..

I've also heard that having a tea with two camomile tea bags in it helps.. but never tried that one..
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I'm so sorry you didnt get the grades you hoped. Can you take them again?

With regards your anxiety issues and sleeplessness. I am not sure if you can get these in the US, but you might want to try...

"Hops".........they help relieve anxiety and help with insomnia, in the UK you can buy a herbal pill which is made of hops, so I would have thought you can get the same in the US, though I havent got a clue as to where.

"Valerian"....... helps with insomnia but occasionally it can give you a boost which will keep you awake rather than send you off to sleep. Hopefully you won't be one of the few.

"Melatonin"....... helps with insomnia but take smaller doses rather than large ones.

You could try....

Aromatherapy, Lavender is very good for helping you to relax and fall to sleep.
Relaxation music, try soothing whale sounds or soft classical music.

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why did you flunk your classes? A few conscious steps towards resolving this issue may allow better sleep. contact tutors, new study habit, or new courses that suits your abilities.
Sleep drugs should be last resort.
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i'm not a fan of sleep aids, so...meditation, contacting teachers to figure out why you failed to see what you can do to rectify this in the future, more meditation, yoga (or some other low-impact activity that requires all your focus). you can't change the past, and you can only move forward, so work towards that goal.
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i am sorry porscha i did not have my glasses this morning i read Flunk instead of funk disregard my post.
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I am a firm opponent of anything addiction related. Addiction comes in many forms...from taking a simple sleeping pill, over the counter or not, to drinking coffee (caffeine), to you name it; if you have some type of withdrawal symptom from not doing something, you have a form of addiction.

That being said, the first thing I would do is look at my diet. When are you eating and what are you eating? By modifying this, if your diet is poor, you could probably fix you sleeping issues within a day or so.

To exclude any elaborate detail, basically the foods you eat, or should be eating, already contain some chemicals or variations thereof of whats in a sleeping pill (for your situation). L-tryptophan, niacin, melatonin, etc. are all in abundance in every foods, such as chicken, rice, oats, etc.

You have to do some tinkering around to find what works best for you, but this would be an example of the warrior diet, or intermittent fasting if you prefer:

Upon waking, do not eat breakfast or lunch, but rather snack on an apple or a handful of nuts (almonds, peanuts, sunflower seed kernels, etc) here and there until it is time for your main meal of the day. Keep it limited to any kind of fruit, nothing processed, legumes, anything really simple and small.

For your eating window, and this would depend on when you ultimately go to sleep, choose your weapons! You can either have 1 big meal or 2 slightly smaller meals, but make your last big meal about an hour or two before you lay down for sleep.

A good portion of chicken, some whole grain brown rice, throw in a veggie and another piece of fruit, maybe hook up a salad...you should be out like a light very shortly thereafter.

Also, another thing to ponder is how you treat your bed/bedroom. The only things you should be doing in your bed are sleeping and bumping uglies. if you do homework or read books (during the day), or anything else in your bed, you are training your body to not recognize it as a place to rest.

On that note, reading books (at night) is a good way to knock yourself out as well, maybe try that. And if you ever are just lying in bed and can't fall asleep...move to another spot in the house until you feel yourself getting sleepy, or just sleep there if it's comfy enough.

But, I'd definitely look into changing what and when you eat for the best results.
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Hi Porscha - I'm so very sorry to hear about this - did it have anything to do with your injury? Any chance you could have "incompletes", and then deal with whatever the issues were - it seems a bit weird to fail ALL classes - would seem logical that there had to have been some extenuating circumstance that maybe the instructors and dean of students or counselor could work with you on.

Anyway, melatonin makes me very groggy, and I've found that L-Tryptophan works pretty well - but since they re-released it onto the market, the price has gone way up ... so, as has been mentioned, if it's just to catch up on much-needed sleep, 2-3 Benadryl (generic= diphenhydramine) 25mg capsules or tablets work very well (but can dry you out, so you may wake up thirsty!), and it's inexpensive and readily available in any drugstore, WalMart, Target, etc...

But I agree that dealing with the issue is what's going to give you the most relief. Don't beat yourself up about it - maybe there's a way to fix it - when I was in nursing school, and Josh was a baby, I messed up in a course - had done all the work, but not written the paper. I asked the prof if I could "speak" the paper - he was interested that I took this initiative, and allowed it - I got an A+ in both the "paper" and the course!

Relaxation, deep breathing exercises, meditation, stretching exercises and guided imagery exercises all are helpful to relax, center and balance yourself, and also to give you better perspective. I have a very long-term (and seemingly inherited) sleep problem, and while these techniques don't work by themselves for me, they definitely make a difference in how I feel overall.

I hope this all gets ironed out, kiddo! Don't be hard on yourself. Be proactive - it often is very successful.
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Thank you everyone for your wonderful words. As for me failing Im re taking calc next semester with a wonderful professor and physics in the summer bu I do want to speak to my chem professor I just feel theres no way I could have failed I studied real hard for chem and I knew I was doing bad in physics I just wasnt grasping the info and as for calculus my professor wasnt very positive with me from the beginning. I am going to check on my diet and try melatonin Im not a fan of meds so if its the last thing on the planet I need to take. I also have the new puppy coming in by end of next week so i have some excitement to look forward to but I also want to make sure Im well rested so I can be up everytime the little guy needs to go potty. My biggest issue is when I finally do sleep not even a bomb can wake me up so I usually wake up around noonish or later and im groggy as hell i need to shake this because I become a monster for the day. Tomorrow I am volunteering at a Sandy relief shelter which I missed doing ever since I hurt my back since Ill be working all day with the dogs maybe Ill come home exhausted and start sleeping well.


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research Passionflower (Passiflora incarnata)

and how about trying a nice warm herb bath before bed.................maybe...........lavender...... ...lime blossom..............chamomile..............lemon balm........... either the herbs in a bag or the essential oils.................
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I'm not a doctor so get a complete phyiscal with blood work. Then make sure you're getting enough exercise and the right foods. Walk the dogs and eat light at night. We use Valerian Root to help with sleep and it works. Also drink lots of water. Hugs from across the miles!! You had some great advice that's why i love this site
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Well i dont own a bathtub (we only have floor showers) i work out three times a week mainly cardio, i also have no health insurance I am over due for every doctors apt possible being a heart patient I need to see my cardiologist but getting health insurance Is ver tricky. Its been about two years since ive seen my doctor i hate it. I also get a lot of headaches i have to check into my diet I cut out soda and fast food trying to better my health.


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i have no tub either.

just a shower i fill by hand. so i can add herbs, etc. to the shower water barrel.................

but.

you can just do a foot or hand soak with the herbs.

it is amazing how much you can absorb through your feet and hands!


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try this.................

chop up some garlic cloves and put in a foot bath.

you will sweat it out your pores, burp garlic, cough garlic...............and your mouth will think it just chewed a clove or two.........
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I use some really wonderful teas, which work quite nicely. They contain herbs that have already been mentioned, like valerian, passiflora, chamomile, etc. I also really like a homeopathic company called Heel - they make quite a few combination formulations, as well as the basic homeopathic distillations. I think their sleep and calming/anxiety/stress formulas are very good - with homeopathy, the minerals, herbs, etc., are used in minute amounts - the idea being that they essentially trigger your body's own abilities to correct itself. You let one of the tablets dissolve slowly under your tongue, and it is absorbed through your mucous membranes.

Exercise before sleep is not a good idea - it not only raises your heart rate, metabolic rate, but also releases endorphins, which, while they are "feel-good" hormones, tend to wake you up and make you excited - not a good recipe for sleep. Meditation, deep breathing exercises, slow stretching exercises are relaxing and help slow your body and mind and ease tensions.

I know a LOT has changed since I left NYC, but back in the middle ages, there used to be free clinics - some were associated with medical schools, where interns volunteer for experience and resume points. Some were church or foundation-connected... there must be some things like that. Also, some schools have very inexpensive insurance plans for students - usually kind of like HMO's, where you have to see in-plan docs, but (as a former auditor of doctors requesting privileges with HMO's) HMO's tend to have the strictest parameters for physician membership. Most indemnity and PPO plans have no such guidelines.

Aromatherapy, massage, yoga, accupressure/reflexology and other alternative/complementary modalities also have wonderful results (different for each person, so each worth a trial) - and many massage schools and naturopathic colleges have free or low-cost clinics. Then again, sometimes just doing something really wonderful like volunteering can set your mind and heart at peace!! hugs.
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Thanks i am off to get some teas i used to have chamomile it worked pretty nice I think my anxiety kicks in when i have to wake up early if i cant sleep my body freaks. Yoga will try im a bit of a clutz so some of those positions... I know they have free clinic somewhere i have to look around.


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i am a idiot today what the heck is wrong with me! i have no comprehension skill, maybe its the drugs
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No, no alan... it's an idiot, NOT "a idiot"... oh, i just couldn't resist - you're a hoot!! it's not the drugs... it's the humidity - fogs one's brain.
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Yoga!

My first semester of grad school was miserable. I couldn't sleep, concentrate, or perform at the level I needed to and my grades suffered BIG time. I started doing yoga on a regular basis and then eventually started stretching before bed. It helped me, although it wasn't an immediate fix.
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Well i dont own a bathtub (we only have floor showers) i work out three times a week mainly cardio, i also have no health insurance I am over due for every doctors apt possible being a heart patient I need to see my cardiologist but getting health insurance Is ver tricky. Its been about two years since ive seen my doctor i hate it. I also get a lot of headaches i have to check into my diet I cut out soda and fast food trying to better my health.
Maybe try some strength training for a bit - might tire you out a bit more?

Also - did you check to see if your school has a health insurance plan for its students? I did a quick check on google, and apparently some schools have it like they do up here.. Maybe look into that if you haven't already done so?
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