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Wait and see, I guess

I received this last night. Bacchus was at the JAG trial all weekend. He's vaccinated but still...........






The purpose of this email it to notify anyone who might have attended the ASCA Nationals. If there are, they are not allowed to bring that exposed dog and must contact the clubs immediately.

The ASCA Nationals were held the week of November 2-10, 2012. At that event two dogs were diagnosed with Parvo.

Please also remember that at the time of the JAG Trial (Nov 16-18) there was NOTHING official from ASCA about the disease outbreak. We cannot use “social media” as fact when dealing with these issues from a legal standpoint. The notice from ASCA was not sent out until Monday after the JAG trial. The dog in question was voluntarily withdrawn from the JAG trial on Sunday once the issue was brought up.

According to the rules of the American Kennel Club, any dog attending that event cannot compete or be on the grounds of an AKC event for 30 Days. (See below **)

Based on those AKC rules, any competitor entered in an AKC event prior to December 8 (30 day window), with a dog that was at the ASCA Nationals is not allowed to bring that dog on the grounds of an AKC event.

While the AKC has a rule not allowing the dog who attended the ASCA Nationals to be at an AKC event for 30 days, this rule does not apply to other dogs in the household of a dog that attended the ASCA Nationals. When asked, AKC said it only applies to the dog that was at the ASCA Nationals.

One of our local competitors attended that event and will not be bringing his dog to any event until after the 30 day period. Also, although not required, has volunteered to withdraw all of his other dogs from both Keystone and LC-DCKC trials.

If any other competitors have attended the Aussie nationals I would expect them to also withdraw their dogs as did. To our knowledge there are not any other Agility dogs that attended the ASCA Nationals that were also entered in these next two trials (Keystone and LC-DCKC). But part of the purpose of this email it to notify anyone else who might have attended the ASCA Nationals. If there are, they are not allowed to bring that exposed dog and must contact the clubs immediately.

There will not be refunds offered except for the dog(s) who actually were at the ASCA Nationals.



** Chapter 11, Section 9 of the Rules Applying to Dog Shows

SECTION 9.

No dog shall be eligible to compete at any show, no dog shall be brought into the grounds or premises of any dog show, and any dog which may have been brought into the grounds or premises of a dog show shall immediately be removed if it:

(a) shows clinical symptoms of distemper, infectious hepatitis, leptospirosis or other communicable disease,

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(b) is known to have been in contact with distemper, infectious hepatitis, leptospirosis or other communicable disease within thirty days prior to the opening (first day) of the show, or

(c) has been kenneled within thirty days prior to the opening (first day) of the show on premises on which there existed distemper, infectious hepatitis, leptospirosis or other communicable disease.
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I hope Bacchus will be fine!

This parvo thing is scary. It's really big on the west coast right now. It digusts me that people know about the parvo outbreak yet continue to show their dogs that were at ASCA nationals. Someone posted on FB that they are allowed to go to shows with their dogs that were there. They know they aren't exposing anyone to the disease because they're a vet tech.
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What bothers me is that the akc said the exposed dog cannot compete for 30 days but any other dogs in the household can.
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What bothers me is that the akc said the exposed dog cannot compete for 30 days but any other dogs in the household can.
You'd think that they would consider other dogs in the same household as exposed, also, seeing as how they live with a dog who was exposed to comfirmed cases.


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You'd think that they would consider other dogs in the same household as exposed, also, seeing as how they live with a dog who was exposed to comfirmed cases.
But...but...that would be logic?

It would make sense but I don't always give akc credit to think of a plan that is fully thought through, they tend to cover some bases and leave others untouched like in this above.

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I don't know how many aussies were at the national but I know there are quite a few at JAG.

If it were my dog that was at the aussie trial I'd be spraying and scrubbing all my equipment asap. It's not just the dog that was exposed but everything/everybody at that aussie trial.

I took Bacchus' equipment (I keep it in my truck) and disinfected it this morning. I even sprayed the inside of my truck. All leashes, collars, blankets, pads, bowls, dolly, crate, chairs, cooler, etc. got treated. I washed my running shoes also. My clothing was washed Sunday night simply because I needed to do laundry. I always wash my trial clothing separate from other items. I hope this is enough.
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You'd think that they would consider other dogs in the same household as exposed, also, seeing as how they live with a dog who was exposed to comfirmed cases.
You can bet all the dogs in the same household play with the same toys, sleep on the same blankets or use the same bowls. They absolutely have contact with the dog that was at the aussie trial even though it's second hand.

AKC needs a wake up call.
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Hugs and I hope he's okay - at least you know about the exposure and can act quickly if he shows even the slightest symptoms (even if he IS vaccinated). It's unfortunate that this happened, but it's good that you received notification. That said, why would they show their dog if it's sick Makes no sense to me - if J were a bit off and showing any signs (even a strange poop) I'd be watching her like a hawk.

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Can you imagine running agility courses and being sick?


FYI....Bungee cords are a bitch to disinfect.

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I heard about it recently at a show here. Found out a few dogs at that show were infected but people didn't know yet. Luckily, neither of my girls went to that show. Scary, scary, scary.

Hope Bacchus is good and healthy!




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This is so, so scary. I sincerely hope Bachus will be OK!

I was at the ASCA National pre-show and this all hits really close to home for me too. I am so incredibly thankful I did not take Lucy for the day. I had contemplated it but decided to leave her home. My new Aussie puppy's breeder was at the National showing along with many other friends I know with Aussies. Thank goodness Gidget's breeder did not take any of the puppies there although one of Gidget's littermates had already gone w/ their new owner and they were at the Nationals with it. I hope he is OK. My Aussie friends locally here are all essentially keeping their dogs quarantined at home for the 30 day period and thankfully none of them have shown any symptoms as of yet.

I know there are at least two puppies from the National who died from Parvo. One was a 6 month old puppy who won the Best Puppy class out of about 250 entries. She died in her owners arms. So very sad.

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Believe me, this affects everyone. Very sad....
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Just saw on Facebook that the puppy who won best of breed puppy at the ASCA nationals pre shows died two days ago. There were cases of parvo at both shows in my area two weeks ago. There was also dogs that were at ASCA nationals at both shows.
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Just saw on Facebook that the puppy who won best of breed puppy at the ASCA nationals pre shows died two days ago. There were cases of parvo at both shows in my area two weeks ago. There was also dogs that were at ASCA nationals at both shows.
Poor puppy, that's so horrible.

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this is horrifying...but i wonder...how could people possibly bring infected dogs? isn't vaccination a requirement?

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He is doing fine. I hope all the dogs that were at the trials are ok. I don't know if the parvo outbreak was from an unvaccinated dog or if the vaccine didn't fully protect.
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this is horrifying...but i wonder...how could people possibly bring infected dogs? isn't vaccination a requirement?
This is pretty much the most I've ever seen in a premium list. "Exhibitors should follow their veterinarian’s recommendation to assure their dogs are free of internal and external parasites, any communicable diseases and have appropriate vaccinations." (credit Onofrio Dog Shows) Sometimes you will see a notice that you have to have the rabies certificate, but that varies, depending on local regulations.


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He is doing fine. I hope all the dogs that were at the trials are ok. I don't know if the parvo outbreak was from an unvaccinated dog or if the vaccine didn't fully protect.
So glad to hear Bacchus is doing ok!

A Facebook post that I read from a vet in Northern California who treated one of the affected puppies from the ASCA National (I believe this particular puppy did not die) indicated this was a very fierce strain of parvo and basically, that it was different from anything she had seen before. This was a few weeks ago, but I just remember her telling people to be very careful. Apparently, this is why even older vaccinated puppies (ie like the Best Puppy winner who was 6 months old and fully vaccinated) were affected by it.

It sure makes me a more nervous thinking about going to shows where there could be Parvo present!

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This is pretty much the most I've ever seen in a premium list. "Exhibitors should follow their veterinarian’s recommendation to assure their dogs are free of internal and external parasites, any communicable diseases and have appropriate vaccinations." (credit Onofrio Dog Shows) Sometimes you will see a notice that you have to have the rabies certificate, but that varies, depending on local regulations.
...seriously? they don't require full vaccinations? one would think, with SO MANY dogs there, they'd absolutely require it every single time!

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