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Old 11-15-2012, 10:35 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Unhappy Bad back anyone?????

Today has just got better and better, not!

As I bent down to retrieve the shower gel, (it had fallen down into the shower tray) I felt my back twinge. No worries thought I. I'll just let the warm water run on it for a few minutes that is sure to make it feel better.

Wrong, wrong, wrong. As I stepped out of the shower, knife attack, my spine felt as if someone was sticking a knife down either side of my spine and actually into it. Well as you can imagine this has put paid to my picking my olives today and indeed it has put paid to me doing anything other than laying flat out whilst dosing myself up with copious amounts of pain killers and anti inflamatories.

I am not a happy bunny.

Anyhow the reason for my post was to enquire if any of you guys have a bad back and what you do to get over it. I really cannot afford to lay around for days on end. I have my hubby to care for, the animals to care for and of course a farm to run, so any hints/tips/miracle cures you can come up with I am all ears.

in advance.
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Old 11-15-2012, 10:44 AM   #2 (permalink)
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With my hubby, I've had a lot of experience dealing with bad backs. Stick with the anti inflammatories and alternate heat and ice on it. Don't stay in any one position for too long, especially sitting. Try doing some light yoga stretches, like the cat stretch.
I'm definitely not a Dr., but these are just some of the things that have helped my SO out after all his surgeries.
Back pain is no fun, I hope it feels better soon!
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Ouch I hope you feel better.


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strengthen your abs & back.

I have had pinched nerves around my spine a couple times, to the point I couldn't move. Exercise really helped it not happen again, so far.
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I can sympathize. Back in college I used to lift weights. I was squatting and twanged my lower back. Ever since then, it's been a weak link - about once a year I have an episode. Bend over, move wrong, whatever - the lower back locks up.

What helps it - floor exercises like pelvic tilts and 'cat' stretches. Heat helps it. and time.

and I've been advised to develop the abs and core... so I went from a six pack to a pony keg, but I don't think that's what they meant by develop the abs.
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I studied equine massage therapy right next to the human massage therapists. So I've picked up some great tips.

First. You made it worse by having a warm shower right after the injury (acute). It just allowed the damaged tissue to swell and pinch the surrounding nerves.

For the first 24-48 hours ice, ice, ice. BUT do not leave the ice on, otherwise the huntings response will undo your hard work. Apply ice on for 10 minutes, then take off for 10 minutes, put it back on for 10 minutes and repeat for as long as you can.

Avoid hot showers right before bedtime, it will just exasperate the problem. At 72 hours it's subacute. Flush the tissues by alternating with hot and cold. Hot for 2-5 minutes, then immediatly apply cold for 1-2 minutes, the repeat the cycle 3 times, try and do these sessions 3 times a day.

After about 5 daysyour injury may be in the chronic stage. This is where you apply the heat. These sessions should be 40-60 minutes, about 4 times daily. If you still feel swelling or it's still warm to the touch, do not do this. Keep doing the subacute stages.

For pain relief, you can use benadryle, ib profen, Advil. Try to avoid acetomenaphin and aspirin.

This is what I do with horses, and what human massage therapists do to speed up recovery.
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i go thru the same type of trauma, a simple manuver can lead to a few days of compromised mobility. It seems to be happening the more i age. When i feel that it is close to happening i try to make sure most actions i take are balanced, What i mean by balance is using your right side and left side equally in as many task as possible. Good posture, hold your lower stomach in. You should also be conscious of your back as soon as you open your eyes in the morning. a slow easy rise, even when you have not had issues for some time.
I have also found that those velcro back braces, the larger ones with some padding help me when i have to work thru a tender back, it seems to help with the posture and limits some of the movement.
i tend to stay away from drugs unless i want to waste a day.
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I have to take it easy in the mornings because if i don't my back could easily lay me up for 2 or 3 days. If stretch out in the mornings i am good to go for the day and U won't have any issues, and if I feel the nerve pinch coming on I will get on my inversion table and hang upside down for a moment and all will be good generally. I use to have to go to the chiropractor over the years but since I got the inversion table I have not gone in 4 years. It may not work for you but it sure did wonders for me because I can not afford to be down.
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I can sympathize. Back in college I used to lift weights. I was squatting and twanged my lower back. Ever since then, it's been a weak link - about once a year I have an episode. Bend over, move wrong, whatever - the lower back locks up.

What helps it - floor exercises like pelvic tilts and 'cat' stretches. Heat helps it. and time.

and I've been advised to develop the abs and core... so I went from a six pack to a pony keg, but I don't think that's what they meant by develop the abs.
lmao i got the 2 liter ab myself now since i hit 50
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Many years ago I had a fall from a horse and suffered a severe back injury that lasted going on 12 months. To be truthful I wasn't back to normal for a further 6 months but after a lot of hard work I put it behind me. Then out of the blue, having had no problems since my back injury yonks back, I bend down to pick up a bottle of shower gel and it gives out.

I am so angry with myself, this couldnt have come at a worse time.
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Have you ever seen a chiropractor? Never been to one myself but I keep having them recommended to me whenever I complain about my aches.
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I go to a chirop about once every 5 weeks. She manipulates my back and hips and she's the one that told me my right leg is shorter than my left which compounds the problems. Got some orthotics to help that. My stress tends to settle in my back and neck and she just got done straightening that problem out. But it took her about 5 wks to do it, but I have free range of motion again and didn't have to take drugs. She helped me years ago when I had severe headaches and cleared that up in 3 treatments. This was after I spent $5000 with a MD that told me he didn't know what was the matter but was willing to give narcotics for the pain. Excuse me.......
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I go to a chirop about once every 5 weeks. She manipulates my back and hips and she's the one that told me my right leg is shorter than my left which compounds the problems. Got some orthotics to help that. My stress tends to settle in my back and neck and she just got done straightening that problem out. But it took her about 5 wks to do it, but I have free range of motion again and didn't have to take drugs. She helped me years ago when I had severe headaches and cleared that up in 3 treatments. This was after I spent $5000 with a MD that told me he didn't know what was the matter but was willing to give narcotics for the pain. Excuse me.......
I have the same issue with my chronic migraines. Except more along the lines of "I don't want to bother finding out what's causing it but these meds that are usually used for epilepsy patients should make them go away! Have fun with all the side effects". I didn't think it was this hard to find a doctor that would be willing to do tests on me.
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ICE IT! Right now. But you have to figure out where along your spine the pain you feel is originating from. And you want to ice that spot.
I would not try to stretch or anything right now since everything is tight in your body's attempt to protect it. You can try stretching later once things calm down but sounds like your back is having a major spasm.
Anyway, the reasoning behind icing is to get that nerve to stop sending out 'pain' impulses. Once it is numbed from the ice, then the muscles have a chance to stop contracting and they will relax a bit.
Keep us posted.
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If you see a chiropractor be very very careful. When my husband originally hurt his back, by falling and slipping on ice, it only hurt a little so he went to a chiropractor for an adjustment. That night after the appointment he could hardly walk it hurt him so bad. I somehow managed to get him to the car and off to the emergency room we went. The chiropractor assured him that all he needed was an adjustment, but only ended up popping his disk out further. Needless to say, I was very very angry and will never go to a chiropractor unless they are completely on the same page as my MD.
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Many years ago I had a fall from a horse and suffered a severe back injury that lasted going on 12 months. To be truthful I wasn't back to normal for a further 6 months but after a lot of hard work I put it behind me. Then out of the blue, having had no problems since my back injury yonks back, I bend down to pick up a bottle of shower gel and it gives out.

I am so angry with myself, this couldnt have come at a worse time.
Obviously you strained something or injured it before you bent over to get the shower gel. You just didn't know it and bending over set it off. Since it wasn't from a fall or anything that you recall (in the past week) then just ice it and it should get better. Maybe you strained it lifting something from an odd angle.

It'll get better since it is not from a fall etc.
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Sounds like a spasm to me- I never had problems until an injury a few years ago, and now have to make sure I keep up with regular back exercises and yoga to prevent reinflammation. When spasms occur, they pretty come out of the blue like you describe and essentially shut me down. The pain is too intense to "suck it up and keep moving"- I WANT to move, but am unable to with normal function. I wind up having to take muscle relaxants for 24-48 hours, applying ice and resting.

I do all of the day to day work on our farm too, so I HATE being out of commission for any longer than absolutely necessary... If you have a walk-in clinic or med express it might be worth a trip in to get checked/medicated. Especially since you have had a prior serious injury.
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I had a bad back ever since I had a bad fall from a horse I used to lease...

I fell face first on a slant, then the remainder of my body flew over my head... I was in the hospital for 3-4 months and I still have the issue today. I usually just lied down and took a short break when the pain went to the point I couldn't withstand anymore (Usually lied down on the floor because it's flat). I'm not sure if this would help... Because the pain for me continues to reoccur. I have also done acupuncture which helped A LOT. It's actually not as bad as it looks; it barely hurt for me and I'm incredibly sensitive to pain.
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Nurses Aide 31 years but had a Total Knee 10 days later Herniated disk if you lay down on your back and have some one raise your leg up slowly if it hurts like hell may be a herniated disk.That's the way a chiropractor tested for the herniated disk ? Ice is your best friend for a while.
MRI showed Herniated disk,2 bulging disks, spinal steno sis, dergentive disk disease every disk not a candidate for surgery so yes know about back pain.
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I've got a couple of bulging disks and see a chiropractor for it.
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Old 11-16-2012, 01:50 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I feel for you, literally.

I have chronic back and sciatic pain. Never stops, never ends. Nothing can be done for it.. me.

My spine is fused from the c6 all the way down, minus the bottom two vertebra. Those bottom 2 are toast. Collapsed, herniated, stenosis and full of arthritis. I have a metal rod inserted. It's been there since 1975. It broke in two in 2004. Can't be taken out or repaired because it is surrounded by bone growth.

Yep, I too have a bad back. Sucks.
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Cant comment on the bad back, im 25....

but i did a few months ago really badly strain my knee ligaments getting up off the sofa...this was REALLY painfull for about a week i had to limp everywhere could only go through about 30 degrees of movement, had to hop all the way up and down the stairs.

I used Voltarol Gel, it is brilliant it still took me 2 weeks before i could even jog very lightly but the voltarol made a big difference
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Wow, some of you guys are really suffering, makes my bad back seem pretty pathetic.

Today is a bit better, I am taking Voltarol Tablets for the inflammation, Paracetomol for the pain, (they are absolutely useless really but they are the strongest I can get over the counter here), and am applying Voltarol Gel to the whole of my back as now the pain seems to have gotten more widespread, whereas before it was most definitely localised.

When I injured my back (thanks to the aforementioned horse fall) I asked the specialist I was seeing if a Chiropractor would help me. He said then that I have a curvature (is that spelt right, it doesnt look like it is, but my spell check is just not playing today), which would make going to a Chiropractor not advisable. Now I am not sure if he was just simply against them and so said this to scare me from going, but since then I have always discounted a visit, just in case. But if this sort of thing is going to keep on happening. I know once isnt exactly an indication that it will but I have to consider all the likely outcomes, I might just see if I can find a good one hereabouts. Trouble is, what makes for a good doctor, a good Chiropractor etc, etc in the UK does not translate over here. I swear the doctors here havent heard of bedside manner. I mean, would one of your doctors come out with 'you are fat that is why you have an ingrowing toenail (or whatever it is), so I am not going to treat you.' I don't think so, but that is exactly what this lot say to you daily if you are anything above an anorexic stick insect.

Oh by the way, if you are wondering where this came from, I went to see my doctor last night, (the pain was just unimaginable). Her response, 'you have a bad back because you are fat, go away, lose weight.' Like it is going to happen overnight, this is why I am taking paracetomol for the pain and not something that will actually do something about it.

Grrrrrr! Doctors! (in Spain at least).
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Grrrrrr! Doctors! (in Spain at least).

as soon as i see you was in Spain it made the "doctor said i was too fat" make perfect sense they are so laid back
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Probably need some tests to see if there's a fracture or rupture first. Been dealing with a bad back for years and diagnosed with multiple problems. Over the years, I have learned that for me the best medicine is 1.to lie on a ice/cold pack (bag of peas!) where it hurts for the first couple days (20 minutes at a time). Stretch the muscles gingerly that hurt and hold position. My 'queen bee' pain is lower back, so I roll my legs up to my chest and hold them. 2.If you can, get someone to press firmly on the area(s) of pain with their thumb and hold for a moment. 3.You can also take a warm/hot bath which just feels good and may relax you. But the ice will bring down any swelling with ibuprofen (anti-inflammatory/analgesic). 4.Try not to lie in bed for long periods, even if you just walk/move around to keep mobile. It may take a couple days of this but it is my way of relief. If you have a serious/acute condition, a doctor may have other treatment for you. Hope this helps a little.
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