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he needs to clear to whole area first, other than a big huge old growth stump that is staying in the pond/lake, good nesting site for the ducks when they are not living in their igloos.
once the pond/lake are is cleared of debree........he digs down...............
if you look closely in about the middle of that last photo i posted.......you will see where the water table is, a small pond has formed............  | going to be a shallow lake... I guess forget water skiiing
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On the old maps of my area there used to be a small lake on my property, but over time with logging the water was diverted way before I came to live on this property.
You can still see where the lake was as the vegetation is different and the ground/soil is too.
So, a fellow i used to go to school with has a land clearing/logging business and has a huge big excavator that can easily dig out the lake again. The next time he has a job to do near me for the forestry, he is going to come by and see if it is feasable for him to give me back my lake!
We will use the barter system.........for his work I will raise up a beef cow for him.
This is so cool, I have wanted to do this for a long time!
I am going to stock it with trout so I can fish for my supper!!!!
It will be cool to see the wild ducks and geese using it too!
I hope this works out.  | This is exciting! My father did this to our property where I grew up. He would stock it every 5 years. He bought a big stainless steel bulk tank where he would let them grow until they were big enough. It kept them safe from racoons.
It helps to have running water constantly in the warmer months. Do you know if there is an underground spring there?
You will love it when your pond is complete! Wishing you the best.
There is nothing like catch fresh trout for dinner from you own back yard :-)
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01-22-2013, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Darkevs Blue Clay!
i made a blue clay doberman too..........well it sorta looks like a doberman.  | looks like something Quincy made recently...
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| I had a large pond on my last property. Previous owner stocked it with bass so we got some nice Bass out of it for dinner. Then we noticed the pond level was going down...after a few months we figured it out. Muskrats...so then I took to fishing with a pole and a shotgun. I got them cleared out, felt kinda bad until I saw one brought out of the pond. I just looked a giant rat...after that, it was game on..! |
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Originally Posted by GingerGunlock Get a pottery wheel? Or find art students.  | My first thoughts exactly. Wonder if the stuff is worth anything? Might be rare color blue clay. I bet it's very valuable!  |
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Originally Posted by Darkevs Blue Clay!
i made a blue clay doberman too..........well it sorta looks like a doberman.  | Indiana Clay and Limestone are our claim to fame here. Research your area..you may be able to sell your Blue clay. Ours is brown and sought out worldwide, I wonder how much blue clay is worth. |
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Originally Posted by Darkevs Leliel............."Earth Colors.
If you were a painter mixing up soil colors, you would start with mineral particles as your base. Sand particles, for instance, come in many colors. Add air, water, and organic matter in varying amounts, and you change the color of the soil.
Iron colors much of Minnesota’s soil. Just as oxygen reacts with iron and turns a nail rusty, iron in soil reacts with oxygen, creating shades of red and orange. To get yellows or browns, add organic matter.
Water can displace oxygen in soil pores and thus change soil color. The longer and more deeply soaked the soil is, the less oxygen the soil has in its pores. Soil without oxygen turns blue or blue-gray. Blue clay soil and blue sand soil have lots of moisture and little or no oxygen." Young Naturalists: Soil - Universe Underfoot - Minnesota Conservation Volunteer: Minnesota DNR
ok here is a picture of one view 2 days ago.
same 'view' this morning.
you should see it now.  | Huh...just like people...we turn blue without oxygen, too. Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkevs Blue Clay!
i made a blue clay doberman too..........well it sorta looks like a doberman.  | Looks kind of greenish to me...but I seem to have trouble discerning blue from green or maybe green from blue at times, certain shades. Quote:
Originally Posted by Ning Shi This is exciting! My father did this to our property where I grew up. He would stock it every 5 years. He bought a big stainless steel bulk tank where he would let them grow until they were big enough. It kept them safe from racoons.
It helps to have running water constantly in the warmer months. Do you know if there is an underground spring there?
You will love it when your pond is complete! Wishing you the best.
There is nothing like catch fresh trout for dinner from you own back yard :-)
Your so lucky! | SEEEEE...told you so!!! You need to stock that thing!
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| the clay will be used to firm up the soil on the tree side of the pond and the natural vegetation will grow over it with time.
the only thing being removed from the lake site are the trees and scrub brush.
evrything else will be used around the lake, though he hit a deep pile of peet so i will use some for my garden.
there is a spring on one side that i had witched for water years ago, he hit it today and you can here the water coming up.
by noon tomorrow he should start pulling dirt out and building the lake. 
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| I love the updated pictures of a work in progress!!! How exciting to have your own fishing spot!!! I would love to live in a place where I can be self sufficent. Keep the updates and pictures coming! |
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| When they built the art facility at my college, one of the instructors took a bunch of the clay and made big huge pots with it. I always thought that was a neat story, and it's what I thought of when you started talking about your blue clay ^^ |
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| When my folks built their house, they dredged out what was a swamp, and made a nice little pond with an island in the middle. We went fishing and caught some catfish, sunfish and a few small bass and put them in (trout need running water, and can't live in a pond/lake unless there is a VERY active stream, waterfall or spring in it - they need high oxygen content/aeration in the water)... then turtles came and moved in, and then we got ALL sorts of wonderful birds - great blue herons, green herons, cranes and egrets, kingfishers, phoebes and juncos, and a flock of mallards. It was really nice. We used to paddle around in a little rowboat or an inflatable little "boat". Swimming was kind of unpleasant to me - the bottom was sort of slimy because of the clay, plus the fish were 'friendly' and nibbled on us. 
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01-22-2013, 08:26 PM
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| this pond/lake really is for the birds................turtles, fish, frogs, etc. too!
i will enjoy sitting on my porch in my rocking chair and observing all the pond/lake activity!
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.......heaven on earth. 
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| Our GSP, Clem, tried eating the frogs and toads... one of them made his mouth froth and foam - he was sorry he ate that little stinker! He gagged for a couple of hours. (He was on a special diet, so, of course, he wanted to eat EVERYTHING!)
We can't have a pond here - it's desert - but we will hopefully put in some sort of water thing... I have 3 birdbaths out, but I want something pretty, bigger, that sounds nice.
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| i am looking into some kind of solar powered fountain............
i too love the sound of running, babbling water. so relaxing.
OK. laugh away.here is my first ever blue clay doberman......and my last. hahahah
me no artist at all.
but he is kinda cute. 
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| Hmmm... I looked up the definitions of pond and lake, trying to figure out how they were different. These definitions are from the same source.
pond (pnd)
An inland body of standing water that is smaller than a lake. Natural ponds form in small depressions and are usually shallow enough to support rooted vegetation across most or all of their areas.
lake (lk)
A large inland body of standing fresh or salt water. Lakes generally form in depressions, such as those created by glacial or volcanic action; they may also form when a section of a river becomes dammed or when a channel is isolated by a change in a river's course.
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So, I guess a pond is smaller and shallower than a lake?
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| My brothers and I have 25 acres of hardwood forrest up north...all of these ideas make me excited to have property like that. Surely between my 2 brothers, we can build a little cabin, who knows, maybe a pond lol.
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Originally Posted by Darkevs i am looking into some kind of solar powered fountain............
i too love the sound of running, babbling water. so relaxing.
OK. laugh away.here is my first ever blue clay doberman......and my last. hahahah
me no artist at all.
but he is kinda cute.  | Very compact! Nice short back  haha just kidding around, it's still far better than I could ever do!
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| The only downside I can see to having a lake or pond (at least here) is the mosquitoes etc.
Do you have a problem with them in BC? I know Saskatchewan (sorry if that is spelt wrong but I am on meds for my back and my head is all over the place) is plagued with them in the summer months it was one of the reasons we balked at the idea of going to live there, we saw a National Geographic programme and there were swarms of the blighters.
I know frogs and fish eat the larvae but hereabouts there are so many eggs laid they still come out in squadrons that are intent on world domination. |
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| I love hearing about your lake. My sister just had a huge natural pond put in for her horses. I asked her is hers was considered a Lake or a Pond. She said hers is a Pond. If I can find pictures I will post.
She has been told that she can add catfish at first, but they will have to be fed at first because the Pond will not be able to sustain them yet. Than she will be adding other fish that can be fished.
Anyway I love following this thread. Her pond is almost filled and it has only been a couple of months. |
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| Congratulations on your upcoming lake. Love the photos of the progress. It is going to be beautiful.
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Originally Posted by Toby'shuman The only downside I can see to having a lake or pond (at least here) is the mosquitoes etc.
Do you have a problem with them in BC? I know Saskatchewan (sorry if that is spelt wrong but I am on meds for my back and my head is all over the place) is plagued with them in the summer months it was one of the reasons we balked at the idea of going to live there, we saw a National Geographic programme and there were swarms of the blighters.
I know frogs and fish eat the larvae but hereabouts there are so many eggs laid they still come out in squadrons that are intent on world domination. | From what I know of BC, when we lived there in the 80's there wasn't even a need for screens on windows because they had no moquitoes whatsoever.
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Originally Posted by Ning Shi This is exciting! My father did this to our property where I grew up. He would stock it every 5 years. He bought a big stainless steel bulk tank where he would let them grow until they were big enough. It kept them safe from racoons.
It helps to have running water constantly in the warmer months. Do you know if there is an underground spring there?
You will love it when your pond is complete! Wishing you the best.
There is nothing like catch fresh trout for dinner from you own back yard :-)
Your so lucky! | ^^^^ Snapping Turtles like fresh trout too / buddy had to build his inground tank higher off the ground, to keep them out.
- also been told, Brown Trout stocked in a Bass river...soon only the trout live on / stocking Rainbow is perfect
40 years ago, visiting a farm neighbor, he had a nice fresh trout setup (rainbow stocked).
There was an underground water stream running beside his house, so he dug a 15 foot deep hole, about a 20 foot diameter.
Then he filled the big hole with a round corregated metal grain bin, fresh water came in the bottom and flowed (trickled) out near the top.
It was deep enough, that the bottom of the make shift aka well, had cold water, to support trout life (due to the depth of water).
A few times a day, he would throw a couple handfuls of pig pellet or rabbit type food, on top of the open water tank.
The rainbow flurished and grew to 18 inches in length each, they were very thick in there.
When he wanted a fish fry for lunch, he put a pellet of food on a fishing hook, and in 10 seconds, one large fish, landed & he was flipping out dinner.
Darkevs - congrats on your future lake / I like your batter system...you go girl !!
Nothing better than Rainbow...pan fried with coating of sliced almonds/brown sugar/red wine...had in once in a SC restaurant (simply to die for).
Also, when I was in grade8, cousins and I fished large bull frogs on a farm next door (with hook & worm)...and yes, they do taste like chicken...LOL.
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| i think your blue Dobe is cute - are you going to fire it (bake it) to see if it hardens up, or just let it dry naturally? it'd be kind of cool to put a small piece into your wood stove for a few days, to see if it hardens like ancient artifacts.
catfish and/or other fish are good for eating mosquito larvae, as are dragonflies, lots of birds, frogs, etc... when we first put the catfish in, we fed them all sorts of things, from bread to dog kibble (which they LOVED!), till they grew fat and sassy and very stable population. and, of course, you can also eat catfish.
will you be re-establishing the connection with whatever river was diverted for the timber? if you do, you might be able to have trout - but you might need to create some sort of "fencing" to keep them in your pond, or they'll just swim away! but the water does have to flow for trout.
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