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Old 06-01-2009, 08:57 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Does anybody get ice pick headaches, migraine sufferers?

I typically get migraines, not a lot but maybe twice a year. Since I've gotten into my 30s my migraines have become "migraine variants" with a horrible aura mostly, very little actual head pain. It is waves of ferocious nausea, hot flashes and dizziness that are more debilitating that the typical migraine head pain and scary because I feel very faint and dizzy like I'm going to pass out. I've been known to pull over my truck, run to the side of the road and heave (no vomiting), very suddenly when these come and and have to call for a pick-up ride home because I will not drive my kids when this happens.

Now, for the second time I've had 3 days of what was called "ice pick headaches". When I read on line it sounds like they are supposed to happen just a couple times in a day but these happen a couple times a minute, mostly in the top right side rear of my head, always the same spot. This one is different that the first time this happened as it started in my ear and I thought I had an ear infection. No ear infection but it has now remained in my ear but started in the same spot on my head (right, top, rear). It also causes severe scalp sensitivity where the slightest touch causes pain. The scarp shooting pains are a 7-8/10 and the sensitivity is a 3/10 (comparing to my worst pain, natural labor). The first time I went to be seen for these they said they are common with migraine sufferers but not migraine or a migraine variant. Honestly I'm begging for a migraine right now (not a varient) because they are much more pleasant than this. They offered a nerve block the first time but without knowing what nerve could be causing this they said it would be kind of a trial and error. Block one and if the pain doesn't go away, would have to try another until we find out what nerve this could be if it is in fact a neuralgia.

Just wanted to know if anybody has experienced this and if there were any treatments that were successful.
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Old 06-01-2009, 10:14 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I have migraines,with some evil variants,though not of icepick variety.My variants are one sided paralysis(hemiparisis),tremor,loss of sight in one eye(temporary) and ocular or head pain.Usually allways have an aura before,loss of appitite before(puking after),lethargy,mood changes,light and sound sensitivity as well throughout.I sometimes get 'migraine stupor' wich is a post migraine state,that has mood and behavioural changes. though i should note,mine is from a traumatic brain injury,and non organic/hereditary. What treatment works for one may not work for another.

I usually ice the back of my head/forehead,lay down,and try to rest queitly.I typically take an NSAID like OTC motrin.(use Imitrex if it gets pretty bad)

Note you should avoid caffene when you have a migraine

Help for migraines include.................

Tryptophan tablets(or amino acid therapy)
NSAIDS(motrin)*stay AWAY from excedrin migrane*
avoidance of known triggers
Over the counter and prescription drugs(Imitrex,Topamax,depakote,etc)
Homeopathics(hylands migraine releif,migraquel,etc)
Feverfew,skullcap,vervain,valerian root,and other neurologic/relaxant herbs
Ice packs on base of head/neck
Getting enough sleep,exersize,and a well balanced diet
Staying hydrated.

Hope this helps.Best of luck.

PS *there is also a ''medication overuse headache'' wich is like a migraine,ONLY medicate when you NEED to.It will make things worse to medicate when you dont need to.
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These sound aweful. Nothing like the occassional migraine I get.

Seek out a Headache Clinic or Specialty center in your area.
There's got to be some relief for you.
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Hi, I too suffer migraines, altthough I have to say quite rarely (maybe once or twice a year - touches wood VERY quickly).

I get the 'attack' first which includes loss of vision, bright sparkly lights, numbness typically in mouth and down one side, a feeling of extreme coldness and an inability to say what I want to say. Then comes the headache - and what a headache!

I have to say I can cope with the head by taking pain killers but the pre headache 'attack' never fails to really frighten me (and I've been suffering with this since 7 years of age and am now 43).

Mine is most definitely hereditary as my mother suffers with them - much more frequently than I do.
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I get migraines. Sometimes if I eat steak it calms it down a bit, SOMETIMES. My MIL got me one of those things that you heat up and put over your eyes, that helps a lot, but it cools off really fast. So I put the heating pad over my face, I look like a moron, but you know, I really don't care. I've gotten several MRI's, when I was 16 the dr.'s thought I had a tumor in my petutary (sp?) glad because it was swollen to a size of a walnut, when they are supposed to be a size of a pea. But when I went in for a third MRI, it was gone. Speaking of which I need to go back and see what it's been doing, because as of late my migrains have been bad. Also, they prescribed me 2 different types of migraine medicine neither which worked.
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I began getting Migraines after Menopause. They were debilitating. I finally found a doctor in San Francisco who was the leader in the field of research of Headaches and I became part of a research project. He invented or discovered the leading treatment for migraine.

I changed entirely the way I ate and exercised. I now take Zomig PO at onset and they extinguish. I get them rarely now, where before I would get them 3-5 times a month and they would often come in clusters.

I too, got the aura before the actual head pain began: loss of vision, inability to speak, numbness on different parts of my body, and nausea often accompanied with intense anxiety.

So, needless to say Zomig is a miracle drug to me. Now, even though I get them very infrequently - maybe once every couple of years, I am still rather 'knocked down' for a couple of days following an episode.

Migraines are so misunderstood. They really aren't a headache in the sense that non-migraine sufferers imagine. They are an assault on the brain and the attending consequences of that.

My heart goes out to anyone who get them. They are a nightmare to have to deal with. They are unpredictable, so many times when I had a professional event planned or any other personal event, migraines could bring that to an immediate halt. I saw many doctors, especially neurologists, who put me through so many awful tests and put me on some pretty awful medications, that had many side-effect and no effect on my migraines; they really had no idea how to treat me. It's amazing how much ignorance is out there in the medical field regarding Migraine.

It's important to find a Headache specialist, who is aware of current research in the field, so that you're placed on medication that works.

Anyone who wants further information, please feel free to PM me. My husband, who is an RN, also gets them and takes the nasal spray form of Zomig.
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I suffer from migraines quite frequently (was off work sick Friday with a particularly nasty one). I get the ice pick ones occasionally- mine are behind my eyes.

Migraines are so complicated, nasty things and no one thing works for everyone! Have you seen a neurologist? They can come up with preventions/treatments that primary care/family physicians may not.

Mine are hereditary. I had a couple migraines in my whole life, now they are a regular part of life. My dad got them in his late 20's, now I have them in my late 20's.

Mine are vascular- Midrin helps, and Verapamil helps as a preventative, pretty much pointing to vascular causes. Heat DOES NOT help- it makes it much worse. Ice packs on my neck/head do wonders sometimes. Caffeine actually helps mine. I never drink coffee- unless I have a bad migraine, then I send someone out for coffee.

The migraine I had Friday started Thursday afternoon- but woke me up out of a sleep in cold sweat/nausea/shakes Friday morning.

I have auras too- numbness on one cheek, slurred speech, visual problems, comfusion. I feel and act drunk. Then, after the headache gets better, I feel hungover.

Have you had an MRI? I would definitely ask for one in case it's something more than headaches.

I hope it gets better soon- it sounds awful!
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I just started getting migraines in the last 2 years...so much fun. My doctor and I have settled on Maxalt MLT (the quick dissolving tablets) for now, but he was very clear that if I started getting any of the "variants" to come back in for a CT scan. Basically any time the headaches change or don't repsond to the Maxalt I am to get scanned to make sure it's still JUST a migraine, not a differnt problem masked by the migraine diagnosis.

I said all that to say this: go get checked out since this is a newer symtom and just make sure it's still migraines. Good luck and I am sorry, there isn't much worse than the sudden onset and intense pain.
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BTW, I like this thread. I feel sometimes like I'm the only one that gets them, and they hurt so bad. Paralyzing bad, like I can't do anything I can't eat I can't drive I can't do anything but lay in a dark room with my eyes close, with no sound. IT sucks.
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BTW, I like this thread. I feel sometimes like I'm the only one that gets them, and they hurt so bad. Paralyzing bad, like I can't do anything I can't eat I can't drive I can't do anything but lay in a dark room with my eyes close, with no sound. IT sucks.
Me too- its nice to talk to people who know what you are talking about!

What is weird for me, is that it's such a "scary" pain. It can be totally frightening. Rationally, I will know it's a migraine and will eventually go away. However, there's always a part of me that is terrified- like there is no WAY this is just a headache, there must be something grave wrong- I'm having a stroke- and this will NEVER end!
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After getting a few PM's from this thread, I wanted to submit how I responded here, in case it might be helpful to others:

Yes, it sounds like you are having the same awful experience I had with doctors who don't have expertise in this area, and you're suffering due to their ignorance.

It's worth a call to Dr. Goldstein for a recommendation in your area. I trust them 100%. The medication I take now, upon onset (Aura) is Zomig.

At the very least you'll get an accurate diagnosis, so you don't have to put up with the prejudice from hospital staff, nurses and doctors, against migraine sufferers, thinking you're drug seeking.

Most doctors can't even diagnose Migraine, much less have the knowledge to recommend medications that work.

Let me know how it goes. Don't stop until you get the help you need. -Kate
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How about how you just feel "off" the day after your headache has finally cleared? It's not an easy thing to describe, but it's almost like there's still an empty space in my head, sort of a shadow left by the pain.

I get ice pick headaches, but mine aren't - at least I don't think they are - migraines, but rather sinus headaches. I get a piercing pain up through my [usually left] nostril, behind my eye and up into my eye socket. I have had them so badly before that they made me sick to my stomach. When I get them, breathing hurts. It truly does feel like someone is shoving an ice pick into my head.

Mine are usually brought about by cold damp air and/or sudden changes in barometric pressure. I try to avoid it as much as possible, but sometimes it's unavoidable. When I feel one coming on them, I try to head it off with more Tylenol Sinus than should probably be allowed (the nighttime formula works best) and caffeine (Coke, not coffee). I will often put a cold compress on my eyes in a quiet, dark room and just try to sleep it off.

I'm so glad to read that others feel the pain, but it's interesting how the symptoms and treatments are so unique to each individual. What works for one is the kiss of death for another.
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How about how you just feel "off" the day after your headache has finally cleared? It's not an easy thing to describe, but it's almost like there's still an empty space in my head, sort of a shadow left by the pain.

I get ice pick headaches, but mine aren't - at least I don't think they are - migraines, but rather sinus headaches. I get a piercing pain up through my [usually left] nostril, behind my eye and up into my eye socket. I have had them so badly before that they made me sick to my stomach. When I get them, breathing hurts. It truly does feel like someone is shoving an ice pick into my head.

Mine are usually brought about by cold damp air and/or sudden changes in barometric pressure. I try to avoid it as much as possible, but sometimes it's unavoidable. When I feel one coming on them, I try to head it off with more Tylenol Sinus than should probably be allowed (the nighttime formula works best) and caffeine (Coke, not coffee). I will often put a cold compress on my eyes in a quiet, dark room and just try to sleep it off.

I'm so glad to read that others feel the pain, but it's interesting how the symptoms and treatments are so unique to each individual. What works for one is the kiss of death for another.
Actually, Migraine is a very specific diagnosis. They aren't sinus headaches. It really is best to consult a Migraine Headache specialist. Migraine can have different symptoms, but 'sleeping it off' is seldom possible for a true migraine sufferer. That tactic would lead one to the Emergency Room, where the treatment is effected by the Emergency Room being bombarded, often with drug seekers, who verbally mimic the migraine symptoms. (My husband, who is an RN in Emergency Rooms and a migraine sufferer can attest to this.) Trust me, please. If you suspect you are having migraine, see a specialist in Migraine Headache treatment. This is really one of those situations, where advice from the internet won't be that useful.
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Well this is now occipital neuralgia or more specifically a preocciptal neuralgia. Unfortunately the pain meds I've tried (Oxycodone from previous Rx) does very little for these pains or the super sensitivity in my scalp, just make it impossible for me to work and feel good about sending in medical reports). We are trying Neurontin and PT and I'm praying this works.
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I do agree that that some things work for others and don't for others. Zomig doesn't work for me, there is another that it's like eating a sugar pill too, doesn't do sqaut for the migraines. The Dr. said to take it on the first signs of migraines, I'm not sure about you guys, but I can tell pretty early sometimes 4-6 hours before I actually have a migraine. Then the blinding light, the ringing in my ears, the warping sound in my head... (I SOUND LIKE A SKITZO!, LOL) I took Zomig, and CRAP I can't think of the other medication either, but neither works. Am I the only one that has tried these two and they don't work for them?
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Good luck w/ the Neurontin! I tried it for another condition, it cause too much "fuzzy brain" for me.

Narcotics are a no-no for me w/ migraines-they make them 100x worse!

I asked for Imitrex, but after a Holter test last year I was dx'd w/ irregular heartbeat- so they said no Imitrex but instead called in Midrin. It works okay most of the times.
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I DO NOT suffer from migraines, however I do get a similar head "pain" that you're talking about. I was diagnosed with idiopathic stabbing headaches in high school. It was a sharp pain in the exact same location you speak of. It hurts BAD, but lasts from a few seconds to up to a minute. Sometimes little "waves" of them in a series of 5 minutes. I used to have to pull over, as they cause tunnel version or momentary blindness (literally seconds). I was terrified. I was prescribed a blood pressure medication. HOWEVER, I did not have high blood pressure (low actually and had to be monitored carefully on it so it didn't get too low). It worked for awhile, and I"m not sure if they just didn't help or I just didn't refill my prescription. Either way, they just stopped happening. During high stress times I will get "attacks" of them, and they generally go away. I also find if I increase my caffeine they will occur. Take close note of if you are eating or drinking anything differently. I wasn't at the time, but they reoccur now because of those things. Stress is a major indicator. Unfortunately there's not much they can do, as it's "idiopathic" so they don't know what's causing it.
Also something to note. The location of the pain will typically move forward , up over the top of the head towards the eyes as time progresses. Keep us posted.
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My sister has had migranes for years. She has recently started seeing a chiropracter and her headaches have gone away. Just an idea. I hope you can find some relief.
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My sister has had migranes for years. She has recently started seeing a chiropracter and her headaches have gone away. Just an idea. I hope you can find some relief.
I have an appointment with my chiropracter this morning for physical therapy. That is one of the suggestions from the doctor before trying the nerve block. Hopefully this will work for me too. I know it has helped with the migraines before so I'm hopefull it will help cut down the inflamation putting pressure on this nerve.

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I DO NOT suffer from migraines, however I do get a similar head "pain" that you're talking about. I was diagnosed with idiopathic stabbing headaches in high school. It was a sharp pain in the exact same location you speak of. It hurts BAD, but lasts from a few seconds to up to a minute. Sometimes little "waves" of them in a series of 5 minutes. I used to have to pull over, as they cause tunnel version or momentary blindness (literally seconds). I was terrified. I was prescribed a blood pressure medication. HOWEVER, I did not have high blood pressure (low actually and had to be monitored carefully on it so it didn't get too low). It worked for awhile, and I"m not sure if they just didn't help or I just didn't refill my prescription. Either way, they just stopped happening. During high stress times I will get "attacks" of them, and they generally go away. I also find if I increase my caffeine they will occur. Take close note of if you are eating or drinking anything differently. I wasn't at the time, but they reoccur now because of those things. Stress is a major indicator. Unfortunately there's not much they can do, as it's "idiopathic" so they don't know what's causing it.
Also something to note. The location of the pain will typically move forward , up over the top of the head towards the eyes as time progresses. Keep us posted.
Oh gosh, I wonder if whatever could be causing it is somehow attacking other nerves (trigeminal nerve) causing trigeminal neuralgia. I was reading up on this and came across that and that sounds horrible. This attack was the first time it started in my ear though. On Friday I thought I had an ear infection with stabbing pains in my ear and on Sunday all the pain was gone except for the scalp sensitivity. Then it hit full force with the ear and the head pain occuring a minimum of 4-5 times a minute up almost constantly throughout the day.

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I do agree that that some things work for others and don't for others. Zomig doesn't work for me, there is another that it's like eating a sugar pill too, doesn't do sqaut for the migraines. The Dr. said to take it on the first signs of migraines, I'm not sure about you guys, but I can tell pretty early sometimes 4-6 hours before I actually have a migraine. Then the blinding light, the ringing in my ears, the warping sound in my head... (I SOUND LIKE A SKITZO!, LOL) I took Zomig, and CRAP I can't think of the other medication either, but neither works. Am I the only one that has tried these two and they don't work for them?
Is it Imitrex? That is what I've taken for years. Have you tried the injection? The pills give me slow relief but the shots are very quick. I do get some heart racing still after taking them but after laying down for about a half an hour I have much relief.


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Good luck w/ the Neurontin! I tried it for another condition, it cause too much "fuzzy brain" for me.

Narcotics are a no-no for me w/ migraines-they make them 100x worse!

I asked for Imitrex, but after a Holter test last year I was dx'd w/ irregular heartbeat- so they said no Imitrex but instead called in Midrin. It works okay most of the times.
I definitely am feeling fuzzy brain but I wondered if it is the sensitivity I'm feeling. Almost a painfully numb feeling but I feel it all over my head with extra sensitivity in my "zap area" and feel kind of confused. Not a good time for me to be starting a new account, but probably better than I would feel if I had the nerve block they are talking about.
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I still want to highly recommend Imitrex or Zomig. It was like a miracle to me. Imitrex was the medication that Dr. Goldstein (of the San Francisco Headache Clinic) invented. I've never heard of one of the two mentioned not working for Migraine. If the diagnosis is not truly Migraine, then I can see either of the two not being effective. But, if the diagnosis is truly Migraine...these two medications are the treatments of choice for Migraine recommended by specialists in the field. I'd at least mention it to your doctor.
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I still want to highly recommend Imitrex or Zomig. It was like a miracle to me. Imitrex was the medication that Dr. Goldstein (of the San Francisco Headache Clinic) invented. I've never heard of one of the two mentioned not working for Migraine. If the diagnosis is not truly Migraine, then I can see either of the two not being effective. But, if the diagnosis is truly Migraine...these two medications are the treatments of choice for Migraine recommended by specialists in the field. I'd at least mention it to your doctor.
My dad was part of the clinical trials for Imatrex! He would inject it and not know if it would help or was a placebo, lol. He was on it for years, but is now on something called Relpax (sp).

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My dad was part of the clinical trials for Imatrex! He would inject it and not know if it would help or was a placebo, lol. He was on it for years, but is now on something called Relpax (sp).

I can't take these because of a rapid heartrate issue.
Yes, since IMITREX was discovered to be effective in the treatment of migraine, there have been several derivatives, with slight modifications, also helpful, with Zomig being in that family. I found Zomig to have less of that 15 minute post medication, heart racing. So, that's the one I take. I am unwilling to take narcotics, as they only mask the symptoms and leave me useless with that 'drugged up' feeling that I don't like, whereas, with Zomig I can often, but not always, continue with my plans. I don't feel 100%, but can, at least fulfill commitments I may have made, which takes away some of the anxiety that accompanies a migraine episode.
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Aha! Yes it was Imitrex, doesn't work for me at all.
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Yes, since IMITREX was discovered to be effective in the treatment of migraine, there have been several derivatives, with slight modifications, also helpful, with Zomig being in that family. I found Zomig to have less of that 15 minute post medication, heart racing. So, that's the one I take. I am unwilling to take narcotics, as they only mask the symptoms and leave me useless with that 'drugged up' feeling that I don't like, whereas, with Zomig I can often, but not always, continue with my plans. I don't feel 100%, but can, at least fulfill commitments I may have made, which takes away some of the anxiety that accompanies a migraine episode.
I take Midrin. It is not narcotic, however it does have a mild sedative. It doesn't bother me, thankfully, I can function fine on it. Sometimes it doesn't help so much though, and it smells AWFUL and leaves a horrible aftertaste and heartburn feeling! Sometimes it feels like the pill is still stuck, especially w/ the initial 2 pill dose.
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