Legalize pot? Yes or no? - Doberman Forum : Doberman Breed Dog Forums

avalonandon · 05-06-2009, 05:03 PM

I say absolutely, yes.

- tax revenue
- less populated prisons and more resources towards serious crime
- amazing fibers for clothing, paper, rope, etc
- fuel source
- hemp seeds are incredibly nutritious
- the health benefits - glaucoma, pain, eating disorders (lol, but seriously...)

Makaveli · 05-06-2009, 05:05 PM

Jon, you mentioned most of the reasons I voted yes for lol!

Makaveli · 05-06-2009, 05:06 PM

Oh, hemp seed oil is good for massaging as well. It's a good pain reliever

Ninabug · 05-06-2009, 05:06 PM

yes, for all the same reasons.

Darkevs · 05-06-2009, 05:06 PM

RedFawnRising · 05-06-2009, 05:07 PM

Why does it say "Banned" under your username?!

And, hemp fibers are legal now, certain varieties of the plant are a perfectly legal agricultural product.

I say decriminalize it, but not legalize it.

It is sheer craziness that some recreational users of marijuana (or medicinal users) are convicted of no other crime, yet serve as much or more time, as murderers, rapists, and child molesters.

dobeman01 · 05-06-2009, 05:07 PM

Just seems like a no-brainer to me.

Yes, that is

avalonandon · 05-06-2009, 05:08 PM

Oh - and if it is, Ill be starting my own company.

avalonandon · 05-06-2009, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RedFawnRising

Why does it say "Banned" under your username?!

I just thought it would be amusing.

dobeman01 · 05-06-2009, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by avalonandon

Oh - and if it is, Ill be starting my own company.

If you do, you have an...ummm...investor here!

RedFawnRising · 05-06-2009, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by avalonandon

I just thought it would be amusing.

You owe me about fifteen/twenty minutes of my lifespan back, bucko!

dobermansrule · 05-06-2009, 05:11 PM

No. America is falling behind other industrialized countries as it is. A stoned society is a dumb society and highly unmotivated.. heyyyyy maaaaan, I can seeee that bird's breath when the cloud goes past the sun... faarrrr out... u-hu hu hu... " Pot almost cost me a college degree. It took me years dig out of that hole.

Makaveli · 05-06-2009, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by avalonandon

I just thought it would be amusing.

LOL, can I be the CEO of your company? LOL, and how you get that "banned" under your username? I've been trying to figure that out for about 3-4 months now but never had the guts to ask anyone LOL

Is this for both States and Canada you are referring to?

Leliel · 05-06-2009, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RedFawnRising

I say decriminalize it, but not legalize it.

I see where you're going with it, but that statement strikes me as a bit of an oxymoron... :p

clipclop · 05-06-2009, 05:13 PM

might surprise you coming from me but I actually say yes. Its such a BIG deal here cause its illegal. If it were legal it wouldnt be such a big deal (at first yeah it would be). I think it should be treated like cig's or anything else where there is a reasonable age restriction.

Pot is PROVEN to cause MAJOR damage to child brains that are NOT yet done developing. If you ever talk to an adult that sounds like a stoner 9 times out of 10 he was one as a young teen and for all intensive purposes he'll stay sounding like that!

**greenkouki** · 05-06-2009, 05:16 PM

Did you watch that program on National Geographic last night? I caught it and thought it was very interesting. I don't think it should be legalized for all intents and purposes though. I definitely understand how it can be beneficial for someone going through chemo or radiation treatment etc. It definitely makes you feel good-- no one can argue with that

caramella · 05-06-2009, 05:29 PM

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No. America is falling behind other industrialized countries as it is. A stoned society is a dumb society and highly unmotivated.. heyyyyy maaaaan, I can seeee that bird's breath when the cloud goes past the sun... faarrrr out... u-hu hu hu... " Pot almost cost me a college degree. It took me years dig out of that hole.

For that logic to be rational, we'd have to criminalize ETOH. I vote, Yes. Period. It's so hypocritical to have legal alcohol consumption, but criminalize pot. That's some goofy thinkin' there and I don't use any of either. I have a hard enough time keeping up! :wink: Criminalize nicotine, too, while you're at it, so my medical insurance rates don't go up (a non-smoker) to pay for all the illnesses attributed to cigarette smoking.

avalonandon · 05-06-2009, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dobermansrule

No. America is falling behind other industrialized countries as it is. A stoned society is a dumb society and highly unmotivated.. heyyyyy maaaaan, I can seeee that bird's breath when the cloud goes past the sun... faarrrr out... u-hu hu hu... " Pot almost cost me a college degree. It took me years dig out of that hole.

I can totally understand this and respect it. However, I totally believe that it isn't the substance, it is the individual (no offense to you here- obviously you grew up ).

Alcohol is ruining (and has ruined) thousands of college careers (and ended lives as well - lol - and started a few too).

Weed, to me, is like a nice glass of wine in the evening and less is definitely more (one single hit and I am good). I educated myself extensively before I ever tried it - at age 26. Information, responsibility and moderation, all add up to a wonderful experience. I find it hugely enlightening, motivating and enriching.

But I fully recognize that so many people simply are not at a place in their lives to be responsible about it OR they have an addictive personality. This is why education is key.

avalonandon · 05-06-2009, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by greenkouki

Did you watch that program on National Geographic last night? I caught it and thought it was very interesting. I don't think it should be legalized for all intents and purposes though. I definitely understand how it can be beneficial for someone going through chemo or radiation treatment etc. It definitely makes you feel good-- no one can argue with that

No and I am going to see if I can find it online somewhere. Thanks for the heads up.

eclaire · 05-06-2009, 05:34 PM

Legalize it already!!!

I'd pay tax if I could just walk into a store and buy it... that would be much easier... just sayin'... LOL

Burns · 05-06-2009, 05:38 PM

Yes, especially for the tax revenue and overcrowding of jails reasons.

If drugs like alcohol and tobacco (both of which are addicting substances) are legal, why not marajuana? You can get alcohol poisoning and die from drinking too much, but have you ever heard of someone ODing and dying on pot? It doesn't happen - you just sleep it off. Also, any cop will tell you, they'd rather deal with a stoner than a drunk any day. People can be MEAN and VIOLENT drunks, whereas a stoned person usually is not. Alcohol has ruined (and ended) many people's lives, as someone else said. I think alcohol is much more dangerous than pot.

If we are going to expend billions of dollars on the war on drugs, it should be for the harmful drugs like cocaine and heroine. It should be legal to possess a small amount for personal use, but the same laws apply about driving while intoxicated, etc, just like alcohol. They could regulate it and tax it, just like alcohol and tobacco.

Darkevs · 05-06-2009, 05:39 PM

I think we need a picture. I know how much we all love photos! lol.

Makaveli · 05-06-2009, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by avalonandon

I ever tried it - at age 26. Information, responsibility and moderation, all add up to a wonderful experience. I find it hugely enlightening, motivating and enriching.

But I fully recognize that so many people simply are not at a place in their lives to be responsible about it OR they have an addictive personality. This is why education is key.

I've done it a numerous times but never felt the need to do it again. Most people here do it to look cool or they deal and just smoke it as well. I tried it first when I was 17 (LOL

) and I quit about 6 months later. I found out that I get nothing out of it, (same with drinking). People get high/drunk and act like fools but I've done both and I act just as I would non high/drunk. People just over do things sometimes lol. I mean yes, you get high and your brain messes with you a bit, but you are stronger than your brain and have the power to make it do things you want. I don't know what I'm talking about hehe

ps I quit drinking(6-7 months ago) and blazing(a year ago):p

Makaveli · 05-06-2009, 05:42 PM

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I think we need a picture. I know how much we all love photos! lol.

DLS, where you start the grow-op? I'm in BC too, let me in on it. I can make us some good cash LOL!

avalonandon · 05-06-2009, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Makaveli

I've done it a numerous times but never felt the need to do it again. Most people here do it to look cool or they deal and just smoke it as well. I tried it first when I was 17 (LOL

) and I quit about 6 months later. I found out that I get nothing out of it, (same with drinking). People get high/drunk and act like fools but I've done both and I act just as I would non high/drunk. People just over do things sometimes lol. I mean yes, you get high and your brain messes with you a bit, but you are stronger than your brain and have the power to make it do things you want. I don't know what I'm talking about hehe

ps I quit drinking(6-7 months ago) and blazing(a year ago):p

Ahh. Speaking of education.

Weed is not an utterly benign substance either.

The brain does not stop forming until the early to mid twenties and studies have shown that smoking marijuana before that age, modifies the way the brain forms. They don't understand it completely yet but they do know it is not a good outcome.

And DLS!!! Im coming over to your house!!