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[Dictator]

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Testimony from the ACLU and others regarding Mental Health Bill SB452 which was defeated in Connecticut.

[Dictator]

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[Zephyr]

The Truth About Assault Weapons

I think a lot of people out there could learn a good bit from that website.

[stryker2]

Originally Posted by Zephyr

The Truth About Assault Weapons

I think a lot of people out there could learn a good bit from that website.

Very good for the non informed voter

[stryker2]

Originally Posted by falnfenix

you know what's interesting? the last three shootings, the shooter was on anti-psychotic drugs. seems like this information is getting hushed up.

January 18, 2013 by Bradlee Dean
School Shooters and Pharmaceuticals
“ADHD is fraud intended to justify starting children on a life of drug addiction.”
– Dr. Edward C. Hamlyn, founding member, Royal College of General Practitioners

One of the most celebrated battle rifle manufacturers, John Noveske, mysteriously died in a car crash in southern Oregon days after posting on Facebook about the link between psychotropic drugs and shootings.

John Noveske is one of a few prominent Second Amendment supporters to die this month under mysterious circumstances.

Less than a week before he died, Noveske ended his Facebook post with, “What drugs was (school shooter) Adam Peter Lanza on?”
That was his last post.

Respectfully, where John left off, I will take over and give America the answers John and the American people were looking for.

There has been a dramatic rise in the sale of antidepressants in the past decade alone. According to IMS Health, sales of antidepressants in the United States surpassed $11 billion in 2010.



Antidepressants are one of the most commonly prescribed drug classes. Four out of five physicians prescribing antidepressants are not even psychiatrists, and the drugs are increasingly being given for non-psychiatric uses.

This dramatic increase in usage could possibly be in direct connection to the controversial TeenScreen survey given to children as young as 9 years old in public schools. TeenScreen has been responsible for policing the mental health of students over the past decade.

More and more public schools have brought in the manipulative survey for children, setting them up for a prescription. For example, one of the questions asked is: “Has there been a time when you felt you couldn’t do anything well or that you weren’t as good-looking or smart as other people?” Another question is: “In the last year, has there been any situation when you had less energy than usual?”

Nearly 20 percent of students who take the survey are then labeled mentally ill, which leads to a prescription. This process is being sold as suicide prevention; however, the U.S. Preventive Services Task Force found “no evidence” that screening for suicide risk reduces suicide attempts.

In past generations, parents would train their children in the way they should go, using the rod of correction (Proverbs 22) to drive foolishness from the hearts of their children, while the pharmaceutical companies compete for the position contrary to that which God commanded.

In the meantime, pharmaceutical companies are raking in hundreds of millions of dollars a day while America’s students are used as political and medical guinea pigs.

Note: most Americans don’t even realize that Obama is attempting to deputize the medical industry to screen the mental health of every American.
When reading the antidepressant black-box warnings, you will see the side effects. Some of the side effects include:


• Confusion
• Depersonalization
• Hostility
• Hallucinations
• Manic reactions
• Suicidal ideation
• Loss of consciousness
• Delusions
• Feeling drunk
• Alcohol abuse
• Homicidal ideation

So what drugs was Adam Peter Lanza on?

Louise Tambascio, a family friend of the shooter and his mother, told the CBS News program, “60 Minutes,” that Lanza “was on medication and everything. … I knew he was on medication, but that’s all I know.”

Another case is James Holmes, the Aurora “Batman shooter.” Reporting on newly released court papers, the Denver Post stated that police removed four prescription bottles and immunization records from Holmes’ apartment days after the shooting. During the trial, the names of the medications were redacted for “privacy reasons.”

To take it another step further, the video below, an excerpt from “My War,” explores what John Noveske pointed out – namely, the alarming studies linking antidepressants to school shootings:


Read more: School Shooters and Pharmaceuticals


School Shooters and Antidepressants: What's the Link? - YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_qgK...layer_embedded

[Beaumont67]

BEST JOKE OF 2013 (so far)

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George Bush, Queen Elizabeth, and Vladimir Putin all die and go to hell.
While there, they spy a red phone and ask what the phone is for. The devil tells them it is for calling back to Earth.

Putin asks to call Russia and talks for 5 minutes.
When he is finished the devil informs him that the cost is a million dollars, so Putin writes him a check.

Next Queen Elizabeth calls England and talks for 30 minutes.
When she is finished the devil informs her that the cost is 6 million dollars, so she writes him a check.

Finally George Bush gets his turn and talks for 4 hours.
When he is finished the devil informs him that the cost is $5.00.

When Putin hears this he goes ballistic and asks the devil why Bush got to call the USA so cheaply.

The devil smiles and replies, "Since Obama took over, the country has gone to hell, so it's a local call."

[Beaumont67]

WE ARE NOT THE ONLY ONES WITH EDUCATIONAL DEFICIENCIES !!
- An Ottawa 'airport ticket agent' offers some examples of 'WHY'
our country (CANADA) is in trouble:

1. I had a New Brunswick member of parliament ask for an aisle seat so
that her hair wouldn't get messed up by being near the window. (On an
airplane!)

2. I got a call from a Manitoba legislature staffer, who wanted to go to
Cape Town . I started to explain the length of the flight and the passport
information, and then he interrupted me with, ''I'm not trying to make you
look stupid, but Cape Town is in Massachusetts ..''

Without trying to make him look stupid, I calmly explained, ''Cape Cod is
in Massachusetts , Cape Town is in South Africa .''
His response -- click..

3. A senior B.C. deputy-minister called, furious about a Florida package we
did. I asked what was wrong with the vacation in Orlando . He said he was
expecting an ocean-view room. I tried to explain that's not possible, since
Orlando is in the middle of the state.

He replied, 'Don't lie to me!, I looked on the map, and Florida is a very
THIN state!!'' (OMG)

4. I got a call from a federal minister's wife who asked, ''Is it possible
to see Russia from Canada ?''

I said, ''No.''

She said, ''But they look so close on the map'' (OMG, again!)

5. An aide for a cabinet member once called and asked if he could rent a car
in Dallas .. I pulled up the reservation and noticed he had only a 1-hour
layover in Dallas ... When I asked him why he wanted to rent a car, he
said, ''I heard Dallas was a big airport, and we will need a car to drive
between gates to save time.'' (Aghhhh)

6. A Calgary council member called last week. She needed to know how it
was possible that her flight from Calgary left at 8:30 a.m., and got to
Vancouver at 8:33 a.m .

I explained that Alberta was an hour ahead of B.C. , but she couldn't
understand the concept of time zones. Finally, I told her the plane went
fast, and she bought that.

7. A Québec MP, called and asked, ''Do airlines put your physical
description on your bag so they know whose luggage belongs to whom?'' I
said, 'No, why do you ask ?'

He replied, ''Well, when I checked in with the airline, they put a tag on
my luggage that said (FAT), and I'm overweight. I think that's very
rude!''

After putting him on hold for a minute, while I looked into it. (I was dying
laughing). I came back and explained the city code for Fresno , Ca. is
(FAT - Fresno Air Terminal), and the airline was just putting a destination
tag on his luggage..

8. A Senator from Saskatchewan called to inquire about a trip package to
Hawaii . After going over all the cost info, she asked, ''Would it be
cheaper to fly to California and then take the train to Hawaii ?''

9. I just got off the phone with a rookie MPP from Ontario who asked, ''How
do I know which plane to get on ?''

I asked him what exactly he meant, to which he replied, ''I was told my
flight number is 823, but none of these planes have numbers on them .''

10. A senator called and said, ''I need to fly to Pepsi-Cola , Florida . Do
I have to get on one of those little computer planes?''

I asked if she meant fly to Pensacola and fly on a commuter plane.

She said, ''Yeah, whatever, Smarty!"

11. A senior federal government official called and had a question about the
documents she needed in order to fly to China . After a lengthy discussion
about passports, I reminded her that she needed a visa. "Oh, no I don't.
I've been to China many times and never had to have one of those. ''

I double checked and sure enough, her stay required a visa. When I told her
this she said, ''Look, I've been to China four times and every time they
have accepted my American Express!''

12. A Newfoundland & Labrador minister called to make reservations, ''I want
to go from St John's to Rhino, New York .''

I was at a loss for words. Finally, I said, ''Are you sure that's the name
of the town?''

'Yes, what flights do you have?'' replied the man .

After some searching, I came back with, ''I'm sorry, sir, I've looked up
every airport code in the country and can't find a rhino anywhere."

''The man retorted, ''Oh, don't be silly! Everyone knows where it is. Check
your map!''

So I scoured a map of the state of New York and finally offered, ''You don't
mean Buffalo , do you ?''

The reply? ''Whatever! I knew it was a big animal.''

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Now you know why the Government is in the shape it's in !

Could ANYONE be this DUMB?

YES, THEY WALK AMONG US, ARE IN POLITICS, AND THEY CONTINUE TO BREED.

I don't write it, I just offer it for your consideration.

Like manure, you just gotta spread it around.

[GRAYGHOST]

Originally Posted by Beaumont67

BEST JOKE OF 2013 (so far)

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Finally George Bush gets his turn and talks for 4 hours.
When he is finished the devil informs him that the cost is $5.00.

When Putin hears this he goes ballistic and asks the devil why Bush got to call the USA so cheaply.

The devil smiles and replies, "Since Obama took over, the country has gone to hell, so it's a local call."

Loved it; very true. Thank you!

[stryker2]

Originally Posted by Beaumont67

BEST JOKE OF 2013 (so far)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

George Bush, Queen Elizabeth, and Vladimir Putin all die and go to hell.
While there, they spy a red phone and ask what the phone is for. The devil tells them it is for calling back to Earth.

Putin asks to call Russia and talks for 5 minutes.
When he is finished the devil informs him that the cost is a million dollars, so Putin writes him a check.

Next Queen Elizabeth calls England and talks for 30 minutes.
When she is finished the devil informs her that the cost is 6 million dollars, so she writes him a check.

Finally George Bush gets his turn and talks for 4 hours.
When he is finished the devil informs him that the cost is $5.00.

When Putin hears this he goes ballistic and asks the devil why Bush got to call the USA so cheaply.

The devil smiles and replies, "Since Obama took over, the country has gone to hell, so it's a local call."

For sure!!

[GRAYGHOST]

In addition to the cold weather today, Biden (the brain trust of the dems.) was in Richmond to tell us how much more of our liberty we should give up, and to make gun owners the bad guys.

On a brighter note there was a big turnout for the pro-life rally in Washington today (folks from my church were there with Anglicans for Life), and there are now 700 pro-life groups at colleges in the country compared to 100 pro-abortion groups. More and more young people are against the murder of unborn babies; praise God.

"If we ever forget that we are one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under". -Ronald Reagan

[Beaumont67]

Originally Posted by GRAYGHOST

Loved it; very true. Thank you!

Originally Posted by stryker2

For sure!!

^^^^ You American's make me LOL...our Canadian politicians ----> Federal &/or Povincial level // make we want to PUKE.
- why my PROTEST VOTE to really extra HIGH TAXES, is my NO VOTE (last 20 years)
But I do watch CNN nightly, and the USA political system (interests me), even though its severely F***, as well...GOD help us WORKING $$ CLASS !!

[GRAYGHOST]

At a point in our history where we have a President who, judging from his speeches, and actions, hates America, the Constitution, liberty, succesful people, and the military I thought it would be interesting to quote some of the Afterword from W.E.B. Griffin's book, "The Hostage"; this is for the notice of a deceased Vietnam Special Forces member:

"WALTON, John, Sergeant, Vietnam. Medic, Silver Star. While operating experimental aircraft. 27 June 2005."

Sargeant Walton was awarded the Silver Star for saving the lives of fellow soldiers while under fire. He was a Wal-Mart executive, and son of Sam Walton, founder of Wal-Mart. When he died he was the 11th richest man in the world, worth $18.2 billion dollars.

This man was everything oposite of our unqualified President. He was the son of a very wealthy man, but he chose to do his duty as a Green Beret medic in the hell of Vietnam. Sargent Waltons' company, Wal-Mart, actually contributed billions of dollars to America thru jobs, taxes, purchases of merchandise, and investments, etc..

Obama only knows to spend, and borrow, as do his lackys in Congress. A defination of insanity is to keep repeating the same thing, and expect a different result. Who does the most good for America? The obvious answer is people like Sargeant John Walton; the kind Obama hates.

[blueberry]

Originally Posted by GRAYGHOST

At a point in our history where we have a President who, judging from his speeches, and actions, hates America, the Constitution, liberty, succesful people, and the military I thought it would be interesting to quote some of the Afterword from W.E.B. Griffin's book, "The Hostage"; this is for the notice of a deceased Vietnam Special Forces member:

"WALTON, John, Sergeant, Vietnam. Medic, Silver Star. While operating experimental aircraft. 27 June 2005."

Sargeant Walton was awarded the Silver Star for saving the lives of fellow soldiers while under fire. He was a Wal-Mart executive, and son of Sam Walton, founder of Wal-Mart. When he died he was the 11th richest man in the world, worth $18.2 billion dollars.

This man was everything oposite of our unqualified President. He was the son of a very wealthy man, but he chose to do his duty as a Green Beret medic in the hell of Vietnam. Sargent Waltons' company, Wal-Mart, actually contributed billions of dollars to America thru jobs, taxes, purchases of merchandise, and investments, etc..

Obama only knows to spend, and borrow, as do his lackys in Congress. A defination of insanity is to keep repeating the same thing, and expect a different result. Who does the most good for America? The obvious answer is people like Sargeant John Walton; the kind Obama hates.

Well maybe if the Republican party would have put up better candidates.... then maybe Obama would not be the president. I for one was not against McCain but I felt like Palin made him unelectable. And really Romney was out of touch....well with everybody.

HINT: Just because you like somebody does not make them electable or unelectable.

[melbrod]

Question:
Will a person who is charismatic and "cool" make a better President than a person who lacks "the common touch" yet has the knowledge and experience to handle the job?

Can the latter even be elected in this day and age?


Presidential campaigns have become popularity contests instead of a series of events designed to select the best person for the job.

[stryker2]

Originally Posted by GRAYGHOST

At a point in our history where we have a President who, judging from his speeches, and actions, hates America, the Constitution, liberty, succesful people, and the military I thought it would be interesting to quote some of the Afterword from W.E.B. Griffin's book, "The Hostage"; this is for the notice of a deceased Vietnam Special Forces member:

"WALTON, John, Sergeant, Vietnam. Medic, Silver Star. While operating experimental aircraft. 27 June 2005."

Sargeant Walton was awarded the Silver Star for saving the lives of fellow soldiers while under fire. He was a Wal-Mart executive, and son of Sam Walton, founder of Wal-Mart. When he died he was the 11th richest man in the world, worth $18.2 billion dollars.

This man was everything oposite of our unqualified President. He was the son of a very wealthy man, but he chose to do his duty as a Green Beret medic in the hell of Vietnam. Sargent Waltons' company, Wal-Mart, actually contributed billions of dollars to America thru jobs, taxes, purchases of merchandise, and investments, etc..

Obama only knows to spend, and borrow, as do his lackys in Congress. A defination of insanity is to keep repeating the same thing, and expect a different result. Who does the most good for America? The obvious answer is people like Sargeant John Walton; the kind Obama hates.

You forgot one other group that he hates. The Police. Like when his friend was arrested. The police actted stupidly!

[stryker2]

A Father who has lost so much, but is very sensible about what needs to be done. I think he is smarter than our politicians.

Father of 6-Year-Old Sandy Hook Victim In Tears: 'The Problem Is Not Gun Laws'

Can't get the link to work. It was just on Fox News today.

[madmyk]

Originally Posted by blueberry

Well maybe if the Republican party would have put up better candidates.... then maybe Obama would not be the president. I for one was not against McCain but I felt like Palin made him unelectable. And really Romney was out of touch....well with everybody.

There was no hope of a Republican being elected after W. He had little to no charisma, he really seemed dumb (poor speaking skills, lost deer in the headlight look). Up until the current regime, he was responsible for the greatest single attack on our freedom with the "Patriot Act". We could go on, but let it suffice to say, he (not all his fault) made it so there would not be a Republican going back in.
The Obama campaign "got rid of" Herman Cain as quickly as they could because he was the only one running that was electable. They knew that, so he was the first to go.
Not saying all Liberal ideas are bad, or that all Conservative ideas are bad, but the fact is, the Liberals/Progressives offer the most desirable 'product' to what is now the majority of the voting public.
"We" Americans (left, right, center) can only hope that the current attack on our Rights and Constitution will open the eyes to the voting majority and put a stop to things.

Originally Posted by blueberry

HINT: Just because you like somebody does not make them electable or unelectable.

Actually, Obama is proof that this can happen. Gay marriage, abortion, birth control forced against religious beliefs are things that the black populous traditionally votes against...not so with Obama. Compared to the fiscal damage Progressive/Socialist spending will cause, most of those things are "small potatoes".

I do not see the Republicans/Conservative being able to market a product that will sell to the majority. They are foolishly stubborn about gay marriage. They don't stand for "gimme, gimme, gimme free stuff" big government. They won't accept that you can't put the abortion genie back in the bottle.
Gay marriage should be off the table, as government really shouldn't be involved in marriage in the first place. They are too fiscally responsible to promote government dependency. They don't realize, like it or not, it is not anyone's place to tell someone what they can/can't do with their own body.

The current majority (many minorities combined) out number what the Republican party is about. The number of people in this country that believe it is and should be what the Founding Fathers designed are the minority. Better or worse, it is changing to something other than what America is about.

[dobermansrule]

Originally Posted by melbrod

Question:
Will a person who is charismatic and "cool" make a better President than a person who lacks "the common touch" yet has the knowledge and experience to handle the job?

Can the latter even be elected in this day and age?


Presidential campaigns have become popularity contests instead of a series of events designed to select the best person for the job.

What she said

[falnfenix]

Originally Posted by melbrod

Question:
Will a person who is charismatic and "cool" make a better President than a person who lacks "the common touch" yet has the knowledge and experience to handle the job?

Can the latter even be elected in this day and age?


Presidential campaigns have become popularity contests instead of a series of events designed to select the best person for the job.

i'm dreading the 2016 election for this reason. keep an eye out, Martin O'Malley is running for president. he's young, good looking, and has absolutely horrid politics...and the women love him, so they vote for him every time he's up for election. dude needs to stick to being a (mediocre) rock singer.

[Dictator]

"What are the new taxes included in Obama's Healthcare Bill?"

New taxes for Obamacare

[blueberry]

Originally Posted by madmyk

There was no hope of a Republican being elected after W. He had little to no charisma, he really seemed dumb (poor speaking skills, lost deer in the headlight look). Up until the current regime, he was responsible for the greatest single attack on our freedom with the "Patriot Act". We could go on, but let it suffice to say, he (not all his fault) made it so there would not be a Republican going back in.
The Obama campaign "got rid of" Herman Cain as quickly as they could because he was the only one running that was electable. They knew that, so he was the first to go.
Not saying all Liberal ideas are bad, or that all Conservative ideas are bad, but the fact is, the Liberals/Progressives offer the most desirable 'product' to what is now the majority of the voting public.
"We" Americans (left, right, center) can only hope that the current attack on our Rights and Constitution will open the eyes to the voting majority and put a stop to things.


Actually, Obama is proof that this can happen. Gay marriage, abortion, birth control forced against religious beliefs are things that the black populous traditionally votes against...not so with Obama. Compared to the fiscal damage Progressive/Socialist spending will cause, most of those things are "small potatoes".

I do not see the Republicans/Conservative being able to market a product that will sell to the majority. They are foolishly stubborn about gay marriage. They don't stand for "gimme, gimme, gimme free stuff" big government. They won't accept that you can't put the abortion genie back in the bottle.
Gay marriage should be off the table, as government really shouldn't be involved in marriage in the first place. They are too fiscally responsible to promote government dependency. They don't realize, like it or not, it is not anyone's place to tell someone what they can/can't do with their own body.

The current majority (many minorities combined) out number what the Republican party is about. The number of people in this country that believe it is and should be what the Founding Fathers designed are the minority. Better or worse, it is changing to something other than what America is about.

We can agree on Bush...I thought he was unelectable but I guess *I* was wrong did not like him. But I think McCain would have had a much better chance of winning without Palin (just my thought)

I don't know if the Obama camp "got rid of" Herman Cain but they did their job...as BOTH sides do.

MANY, many demo do not have the gimme, gimme, gimme outlook on the goverment. I don't and most demos I know don't...but I know a few that do and I know a few republic that do too! I work, pay taxes, and have my own health insurance.

I think BOTH parties need work and try to work together. Both parties need to stop letting the fringe try to run the party. I run pretty close to the center a little to the left.....but both parties have good ideas. I don't think either party is trying to destroy the country on purpose but bills and laws being made now and in the past 30 years are doing damage.

[melbrod]

Editorial by Kirsten Powers, a liberal political analyst

From Wikipedia: Kirsten A. Powers...an American columnist, blogger, pundit, and political commentator. Powers, a political analyst on Fox News, appears regularly on shows such as The O'Reilly Factor, Fox News Sunday, Special Report with Bret Baier, [The Hannity Show] and Freedom Watch....She is a columnist for the New York Post and the Daily Beast....
Powers formerly wrote a column for American Prospect Online. Her articles have also appeared in USA Today, Elle, the New York Observer, Salon, and the Wall Street Journal.


Obama vs. Fox News -- behind the White House strategy to delegitimize a news organization | Fox News

Scary, I think. Reminiscent of the actions of many leaders who end up as dictators of their countries

[dobermansrule]

Originally Posted by melbrod

Editorial by Kirsten Powers, a liberal political analyst

From Wikipedia: Kirsten A. Powers...an American columnist, blogger, pundit, and political commentator. Powers, a political analyst on Fox News, appears regularly on shows such as The O'Reilly Factor, Fox News Sunday, Special Report with Bret Baier, [The Hannity Show] and Freedom Watch....She is a columnist for the New York Post and the Daily Beast....
Powers formerly wrote a column for American Prospect Online. Her articles have also appeared in USA Today, Elle, the New York Observer, Salon, and the Wall Street Journal.


Obama vs. Fox News -- behind the White House strategy to delegitimize a news organization | Fox News

Scary, I think. Reminiscent of the actions of many leaders who end up as dictators of their countries

"as liberalism is founded on the idea of cherishing dissent and an inviolable right to freedom of expression."

oh really... that's quite a conservative ideal as well.. or, very American.

[blueberry]

Originally Posted by melbrod

Editorial by Kirsten Powers, a liberal political analyst

From Wikipedia: Kirsten A. Powers...an American columnist, blogger, pundit, and political commentator. Powers, a political analyst on Fox News, appears regularly on shows such as The O'Reilly Factor, Fox News Sunday, Special Report with Bret Baier, [The Hannity Show] and Freedom Watch....She is a columnist for the New York Post and the Daily Beast....
Powers formerly wrote a column for American Prospect Online. Her articles have also appeared in USA Today, Elle, the New York Observer, Salon, and the Wall Street Journal.


Obama vs. Fox News -- behind the White House strategy to delegitimize a news organization | Fox News

Scary, I think. Reminiscent of the actions of many leaders who end up as dictators of their countries

Fox news has been delegitimizing themselves for many years now....they make huge money doing so.......and it's the same for the ultra liberal news.

[blueberry]

Gay marriage, abortion and birth control should be taken off the political table. I can see biblically why people do not agree with these. However, I don't want the goverment in my fundamental personal beliefs. These beliefs should be taught in the home....not by the goverment. If you don't agree with these laws.....then don't participate in them! and teach your children why the are wrong and not to participate in them!