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[GRAYGHOST]

Everything that conservatives warned about during the elections is coming true: your 2nd Amendment rights are being attacked (local and state in many instances, plus Washington), your money is being attacked by higher taxes, and increasing national debt, and spending, your religious liberty is under constant attack by governments, and anti-christian groups.

"The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help." - Ronald Reagan

[dobermansrule]

Originally Posted by GRAYGHOST

Everything that conservatives warned about during the elections is coming true: your 2nd Amendment rights are being attacked (local and state in many instances, plus Washington), your money is being attacked by higher taxes, and increasing national debt, and spending, your religious liberty is under constant attack by governments, and anti-christian groups.

"The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help." - Ronald Reagan

if things go too far, it will be too late to turn back, making the 2016 election a fun media show and quite irrelevant.

[PorschaLei]

Originally Posted by Dictator

NY seals 1st state gun laws since Newtown massacre - Yahoo! News

Somebody get me a stick please. Were skrewed


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[dobermansrule]

Originally Posted by PorschaLei

Somebody get me a stick please. Were skrewed


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you are about to become a criminal if you have an assault weapon and high capacity magazines. tsk tsk. you evil twisted person you.

[falnfenix]

Originally Posted by dobermansrule

you are about to become a criminal if you have an assault weapon and high capacity magazines. tsk tsk. you evil twisted person you.

she's in the city. the likelihood of her owning an AR/M4 pattern rifle is very small, what with their exceedingly restrictive laws.

i have a few friends in upstate New York who've become felons overnight, though. don't know what they're going to do. and i have a buddy who'll become a superfelon over in Delaware if their 5 rd law gets pushed through.

[stryker2]

Originally Posted by falnfenix

she's in the city. the likelihood of her owning an AR/M4 pattern rifle is very small, what with their exceedingly restrictive laws.

i have a few friends in upstate New York who've become felons overnight, though. don't know what they're going to do. and i have a buddy who'll become a superfelon over in Delaware if their 5 rd law gets pushed through.

That is the disgusting thing. Making the law abiding an instant felon.
Give me a break Ammunition magazines would be restricted to seven bullets!
So even if an EVIL person follows the law, what if he carries 30-40 7 round magazines. So he has to reload.
Then the next ban is going to be any semi auto that has a magazine.
Hope NY people get smart in the next elections!!!!!!!

[stryker2]

@ProjectVeritas_ Journalists, Politicians Refuse to Post Lawn Sign saying "HOME IS PROUDLY GUN FREE" - YouTube

Undercover group busts leftist media hypocrites on gun control

by Joel McDurmon on Jan 16, 2013

Project Veritas has brilliantly busted media hypocrites on gun control. The long list of hypocrites caught in this video includes many employees of the Journal News, Star Ledger, and MSNBC’s now-infamous Touré.

The group, posing as an enthusiastic young pro-gun-control organization, meets these individuals at their homes and offers them a front-yard sign that says “This Home is Proudly GUN FREE!”

Not only did they not have a single taker among these media activists (people who want “GUN FREE ZONE” placarded across schools and many other areas in society), but the group received explanations that labeling a home a gun-free would simply invite criminals. Imagine that!

One columnist for the Star Ledger, Bob Braun, presents a great example. After noting that “I agree with you,” he feared, “Somebody might think it’s an invitation to come barging in.”

Beyond this even, several of the journalists had armed guards stationed outside their homes, and some even called the police immediately. (As a bonus, you get to watch a police officer tell a direct lie to the group, telling them it’s illegal to film him, which in fact it is not.)

Mr. Braun provided the parting hypocritical comments. He said a friend told him, “You’re a fool, because when the right wing takes over the government, we’re going to need guns!” Braun responded, “But they got the Army.” His friend encouraged the leftist: “There’s going to be a revolution there, too.”

So now you know what leftists really think about guns. It’s not about public safety. It’s about weakening and disarming those who disagree with them politically.

Here’s the Project’s note from its website. Video below.

At Project Veritas, we’re outraged by the hypocrisy of the national media when it comes to Gun Control being driven on the back of a national tragedy.

Watch our latest investigation to see just how hypocritical many members of the press really are.

The fact is that the majority of our nation’s children spend almost every day TRAPPED inside schools that are proudly emblazoned with signs reading “Gun Free Zone.”

But when Project Veritas offered that same opportunity to some of America’s most fervent advocates for gun control they REFUSED. If it’s good enough for children, why isn’t it good enough for them?

[falnfenix]

and let's not forget, criminals don't care about the laws. at all. ever.

[dobermansrule]

yep - back to the Barney Fife Bill. All American citizens will be allowed is one bullet.

[falnfenix]

ugh. UGH.

[stryker2]

Originally Posted by dobermansrule

yep - back to the Barney Fife Bill. All American citizens will be allowed is one bullet.

At least NY is letting you have 7 rds

[PorschaLei]

As of now Bank of America is denying the purchase of guns and ammo with their credit or debit cards. I live in one f the most troubled cities and cant even get a gun for proper defense i dont think i can even use a stick


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[madmyk]

Originally Posted by PorschaLei

As of now Bank of America is denying the purchase of guns and ammo with their credit or debit cards. I live in one f the most troubled cities and cant even get a gun for proper defense i dont think i can even use a stick


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While I am not one for frivolous lawsuits, I think I would have a lawyer contact them if it were my bank.....
BoA has been anti gun for a while, just ask any gun store owners that used to bank with them...

[GRAYGHOST]

Originally Posted by PorschaLei

As of now Bank of America is denying the purchase of guns and ammo with their credit or debit cards. I live in one f the most troubled cities and cant even get a gun for proper defense i dont think i can even use a stick


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Liberals think that it is ok for you to die, just do not hurt one of the thugs.

[dobermansrule]

Originally Posted by PorschaLei

As of now Bank of America is denying the purchase of guns and ammo with their credit or debit cards. I live in one f the most troubled cities and cant even get a gun for proper defense i dont think i can even use a stick


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BofA is denying that

[stryker2]

Originally Posted by PorschaLei

As of now Bank of America is denying the purchase of guns and ammo with their credit or debit cards. I live in one f the most troubled cities and cant even get a gun for proper defense i dont think i can even use a stick


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We feel sorry for the people of NY with the new ban and NY City. How do people feel about Dumbberg?
So are soda drinkers now buying 4 16oz sodas since they can't buy anthing larger?

[dobermansrule]

Originally Posted by stryker2

We feel sorry for the people of NY with the new ban and NY City. How do people feel about Dumbberg?
So are soda drinkers now buying 4 16oz sodas since they can't buy anthing larger?

I don't. They elected the idiots. Elections have consequences.

[dobermansrule]

Right to Choose by MCooperPhotos, on Flickr

[stryker2]

Things you never heard about the last few mass shootings. All the warning signs.

WEAPONS OF CHOICE

Guns don't kill people, the mentally ill do

Ann Coulter: Crazies need to be committed, not given civil-rights protection
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Seung-Hui Cho, who committed the Virginia Tech massacre in 2007, had been diagnosed with severe anxiety disorder as a child and placed under treatment.

But Virginia Tech was prohibited from being told about Cho’s mental health problems because of federal privacy laws.
At college, Cho engaged in behavior even more bizarre than the average college student. He stalked three women and, at one point, went totally silent, refusing to speak even to his roommates. He was involuntarily committed to a mental institution for one night and then unaccountably unleashed on the public, whereupon he proceeded to engage in the deadliest mass shooting by an individual in U.S. history.

The 2011 Tucson, Ariz., shopping mall shooter, Jared Loughner, was so obviously disturbed that if he’d stayed in Pima Community College long enough to make the yearbook, he would have been named “Most Likely to Commit Mass Murder.”

After Loughner got a tattoo, the artist, Carl Grace, remarked: “That’s a weird dude. That’s a Columbine candidate.”

One of Loughner’s teachers, Ben McGahee, filed numerous complaints against him, hoping to have him removed from class. “When I turned my back to write on the board,” McGahee said, “I would always turn back quickly – to see if he had a gun.”

On her first day at school, student Lynda Sorensen emailed her friends about Loughner: “We do have one student in the class who was disruptive today, I’m not certain yet if he was on drugs (as one person surmised) or disturbed. He scares me a bit. The teacher tried to throw him out and he refused to go, so I talked to the teacher afterward. Hopefully he will be out of class very soon, and not come back with an automatic weapon.”

The last of several emails Sorensen sent about Loughner said: “We have a mentally unstable person in the class that scares the living crap out of me. He is one of those whose picture you see on the news, after he has come into class with an automatic weapon. Everyone interviewed would say, Yeah, he was in my math class and he was really weird.”

That was the summer before Loughner killed six people at the Tucson shopping mall, including a federal judge and a 9-year-old girl, and critically wounded Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, among others.

Loughner also had run-ins with the law, including one charge for possessing drug paraphernalia – a lethal combination with mental illness. He was eventually asked to leave college on mental health grounds, released on the public without warning.

Perhaps if Carl Grace, Ben McGahee or Lynda Sorensen worked in the mental health field, six people wouldn’t have had to die that January morning in Tucson. But committing Loughner to a mental institution in Arizona would have required a court order stating that he was a danger to himself and others.

Innumerable studies have found a correlation between severe mental illness and violent behavior. Thirty-one to 61 percent of all homicides committed by disturbed individuals occur during their first psychotic episode – which is why mass murderers often have no criminal record. There’s no time to wait with the mentally ill.

James Holmes, the accused Aurora, Colo., shooter, was under psychiatric care at the University of Colorado long before he shot up a movie theater. According to news reports and court filings, Holmes told his psychiatrist, Dr. Lynne Fenton, that he fantasized about killing “a lot of people,” but she refused law enforcement’s offer to place Holmes under confinement for 72 hours.

However, Fenton did drop Holmes as a patient after he made threats against another school psychiatrist. And after Holmes made threats against a professor, he was asked to leave campus. But he wasn’t committed. People who knew he was deeply troubled just pushed him onto society to cause havoc elsewhere.

Little is known so far about Adam Lanza, the alleged Newtown, Conn., elementary school shooter, but anyone who could shoot a terrified child and say to himself, “That was fun – I think I’ll do it 20 more times!” is not all there.

It has been reported that Lanza’s mother, his first victim, was trying to have him involuntarily committed to a mental institution, triggering his rage. If true – and the media seem remarkably uninterested in finding out if it is true – Mrs. Lanza would have had to undergo a long and grueling process, unlikely to succeed.

As the New York Times’ Joe Nocera recently wrote: “Connecticut’s laws are so restrictive in terms of the proof required to get someone committed that Adam Lanza’s mother would probably not have been able to get him help even if she had tried.”

Taking guns away from single women who live alone and other law-abiding citizens without mental illnesses will do nothing about the Chos, Loughners, Holmeses or Lanzas. Such people have to be separated from civil society, for the public’s sake as well as their own. But this is nearly impossible because the ACLU has decided that being psychotic is a civil right.

Consequently, whenever a psychopath with a million gigantic warning signs commits a shocking murder, the knee-jerk reaction is to place yet more controls on guns. By now, guns are the most heavily regulated product in America.

It hasn’t worked.

Even if it could work – and it can’t – there are still subway tracks, machetes, fists and bombs. The most deadly massacre at a school in U.S. history was at an elementary school in Michigan in 1927. It was committed with a bomb. By a mentally disturbed man.

How about trying something new for once?

Read other Thursday WND columns on gun control:

What happened to Lanza’s 4 handguns? by Jack Cashill

The consequences of volatile speech by Phil Elmore

It’s all about safety by Craige McMillan

Guns and government by Andrew Napolitano

‘Gun Culture’ – what about the ‘Fatherless Culture’?by Larry Elder

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[falnfenix]

you know what's interesting? the last three shootings, the shooter was on anti-psychotic drugs. seems like this information is getting hushed up.

[melbrod]

Guns Used Correctly

Three men are out hunting in the wood, clad in camouflage suits and armed with shotguns. Suddenly, a beautiful woman leaps out from behind some trees and eyes them seductively. "What could such big, strong men be doing out here?" she asks.

"We're hunting game," answers one.

"Well...........I'm game..." she replied.

So they shot her.

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<<groan>>

[stryker2]

Originally Posted by falnfenix

you know what's interesting? the last three shootings, the shooter was on anti-psychotic drugs. seems like this information is getting hushed up.

There are lots more than the last 3!!!

Journal of the American Medical Association shows 50% increase in Prozac with Preschoolers. 2/23/2000 by now its a lot more.

The Journal of the American Medical Association released a study that shows that there is a tremendous increase in prescribing anti-depressants to preschoolers aged 2 to 4 years old! The "Terrible Twos" are just that! If you start throwing these drugs at preschoolers, what are we going to do for them when they hit their teens? There has been a connection between school shootings and the shooters having been on these drugs!
A lot of the bad side affects happen when you go off of these drugs.

We have become a pill fix it society.

[stryker2]

Ran across this video that is out now.

Sandy Hook Shooting-Fully Exposed (Allegedly)

The Sandy Hook Shooting - Fully Exposed - YouTube

[falnfenix]

while there are some sketchy things going on with the Sandy Hook investigation, i don't believe that video for a second.

[Dictator]

Connecticut Mental Health Bill Defeated Months Before Deadly School Shooting CBS Connecticut

No one is talking about this bill being defeated or about involuntary commitment.