cshellenberger

MORE HATE MONGERING!

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Niether McCain nor Palin has claimed Obama is a Muslim nor a terrorist, they have stated he has familiarity with a terrorist (which is true). Thisis just more hate-mongering and race-baiting, it looks JUST as bad on the left as it does on the right!

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Carla

lyngr

This is just enfuriating!!! How can anyone NOT be peeved about this?

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avalonandon

Im peeved that its happening, Obama is peeved that its happening - everyone is peeved. Im also peeved that the "Obama's ties with Acorn" article is twisting things to make Obama sound like like HE KNEW they did this sort of thing. The article is written by the Republican National Committee Research department - come on.

Do you for one second think that ANY politician would either a) knowingly and publicly support these people to go out and sign up Mickey Mouse - or worse, b) actually tell them to do it? It is an absurd notion and it would be absolute political suicide. Furthermore, the main stream press is not accusing Obama of having a hand in this - only publications like the one you presented. Everybody is aware that he has supported them but nobody in their right mind is going to assume he sanctioned such activity - some will certainly try to say so though. The same people that helped destroy McCain's campaign against Bush in North Carolina by calling people and slandering him, calling him psychiatrically unstable, a time bomb, etc etc - are now working FOR HIM to do the same to Obama. Look it up.

Obama is no more guilty of supporting this atrocity than McCain is guilty of supporting the people in his audience calling for Obama's assassination. Both are affiliated with wrong but neither is in any way responsible or culpable.

Now I have a paper to write, lol. I got an A on my philosophy and a B on my British history midterms today!!!! Quite happy am I. Bye for now.

clipclop

we will have to agree to disagree that obama didnt know acorn subscribed to these tactics. He truly must be the smartest dumb person in the world.

cshellenberger

A RICO suit has been filed against ACORN in Ohio.

PoliGazette » Columbus Think Tank Files Rico Action Against ACORN

http://www.buckeyeinstitute.org/acorn.pdf

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lyngr

I totally believe that Obama knows of what acorn does. This is yet another one of his questionable associations with extreme radicals. And OF COURSE you never hear anything negative about Obama from the leftist mainstream media. They're in his pocket.


btw, I never believed for ONE second that you were ever undecided as to who you were voting for.

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lolonurse

Allen Raymond, author of "How to Rig an Election", and one of the Republicans who assisted in the rigging of the Bush election, is one of the many Republicans who acknowledge that ACORN was conned by people who came to work for them, made up names to avoid actually working, and ACORN was made to look foolish and possibly implicated. However, it was shown that they were not implicated. The Republicans, in 2000 and 2004, did FAR worse as far as voter registration fraud and intimidation of minorities. They have been caught this time, as well, as in the cases of foreclosure situations, where they have tried to use the "no permanent address" issue to rescind registrations of folks who have lost their houses, and therefore their "mailing addresses". This was found to be discrimination, and overturned. Shall I go on (and on and on...?). The McCain/Palin campaign is currently doing a whole heck of a lot more to influence voter registration (negatively).

clipclop

lolnurse- the quoting of the author of how to rig an election is clearly partisan. No one will ever be able to convince the conspiracy theory folks that are convinced the election was stolen.

melbrod

Seems to me that even if Obama didn't know about Acorn (but how many "I didn't know that 1. Ayers was a terrorist when I worked with him 2. I never heard Rev. Wright use that kind of language when I was in his church 3. I didn't have any connection with Tony Renko....." are we supposed to believe), the questionable acts were probably committed by people from the far left of his party--and it is his party, he has voted consistently left within his party, and the beliefs he's actually elaborated on are certainly big government, even socialist.

I also wonder--when the people who suppport a candidate feel free to commit fraud, mightn't that perhaps mean that the campaign or political group of that candidate has the kind of atmosphere where it is implied that they would be approved of, behind the scenes. We do seem to be talking about multiple instances of fraud here.

Obama has waited so long to discuss each of these problems, and his explanations slide over so many details of these relationships--even if it's all on the level, it doesn't look like it.

And before you bring up McCain and the Keating 5, let me point out that he was reprimanded for poor judgement, that's basically it. Many years ago, I might add. I have also read that he was only included in the investigation because all of the rest of the defendants were Democrats and they were scared that would look bad. That last may be from a biased source, but I think it was a quote from one of the involved prosecutors years later.

And yeah, Av, not to pile on or anything, I do remember you saying something like "I EVEN TEETERED toward McCain on the religion issue". Sounds like Obama has had your vote for a bit. However, I have enjoyed your discussions--I imagine the paper you're writing is a doozy!


Just reread the first paragraph--I'm NOT trying to say that all Democrats are slimy people!!! But, unfortunately, the Far Left AND the Far Right seems to be where most of the "crazies" reside. Please don't read this to mean that I think everyone with beliefs "way out there" is unethical.

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clipclop

I gotta third it... av think ur mind has been made up for a long time