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The blame for this is shared between China, American Pet Food Companies and pet owners who don't bother to read labels.



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I buy food and treats made in Canada or the US or make my own, period. When we go to Petco, drive thru the bank, etc. and the employee want to give my dogs a cookie, I take one from my pocket and give to the person to give my dogs. It's just not worth the risk. I wish I had the courage to feed raw so I wouldn't be feeding processed to them at all.

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Dog treats here are not labelled as to their origin and alarmingly their contents, though some safe meat products etc.

It is very worrying that such things are being sold anywhere especially in a country such as the US where I had always assumed great care was taken as to what it allowed to be imported.

I am now worrying about what we get shipped over here as this lot are not careful in the least as to what is fed to animals, heck you should see one of the foods they sell in a major supermarket here, it contains more than 40% ash which to me is scandalous.
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Not all these chicken jerky treats are labeled as coming from China, so reading the label is not a guarantee. Duck jerky treats are also a problem and sweet potato chews.

They should have been pulled from the shelves years ago. The companies have been receiving complaints for years of sick and dying pets, but won't pull them or change their cheap source.

Now it's my understanding that all our chicken may be run thru China for processing, so get ready......you probably haven't seen anything yet!

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RE - The FDA has issued previous warnings. A number of jerky pet treat products were removed from the market in January after a New York state lab reported finding evidence of up to six drugs in certain jerky pet treats made in China, the FDA said. The agency said that while the levels of the drugs were very low and it was unlikely that they caused the illnesses, there was a decrease in reports of jerky-suspected illnesses after the products were removed from the market. FDA believes that the number of reports may have declined simply because fewer jerky treats were available.

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Personally, I never put anything in my dobes mouth...I wouldn't eat myself, if I had to.
- jerky treats are never one of these food groups
^^^^ More disturbing is the FDA, not clearly identifying/or listing the 6 drugs (dangerous) found within the report.

When gas station employees want to give my girl a milk bone type of treat...I say no thks, she only gets 100% organic, which I sell.
Few years ago, I was unloading my truck at the city dump...employee had given former Amy a crap biscuit when Dad was busy.
- when I can back to the cab, Amy had spit the cheap biscuit onto my rubber floor mat...I praised and kissed my smart girly, real good...for being wise

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The blame for this is shared between China, American Pet Food Companies and pet owners who don't bother to read labels.



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Thanks for sharing this update.

I've tried for years to get folks in my classes, and really anyone I encounter who will listen, to avoid anything that isn't sourced in the USA, and solely processed in the USA.

I don't know if there are truly more instances--or if I'm just noticing it more now--of companies sort of doing a tricksy kind of thing: More and more labels, since the whole media alert about "Made in China," seem to state "Distributed by XYZ company in (insert address in US state here)."

Nowhere on that label can you find where the product was *made.* Or where the ingredients came from.

But, I bet it fools a ton of casual label-readers, who note a US address, and drop that item in their shopping cart.

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The problem is that even it's "made in the usa" some of the ingredients come from china. The pet food companies will not/can not do real quality control on ingredients or products they get from foreign sources. And they don't care. It's all about the bottom line.
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The problem is that even it's "made in the usa" some of the ingredients come from china. The pet food companies will not/can not do real quality control on ingredients or products they get from foreign sources. And they don't care. It's all about the bottom line.
Yup. That's why I stressed "sourced in the USA."

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I am an avid label reader! It takes me time to shop! The problem is not just dog treats , it is also other pet items and people items.

Some of my friends think it is funny shopping with me because I now find it faster to add items to cart and check them all at once. I go from a full cart to just a few items. It has actually saved me some money since I have tried to avoid anything I can made in China.

My newest problem is pine nuts, I am having a problem finding them that are not from China and I will not eat those because of the cases of Pine Mouth': How Pine Nuts Can Ruin Tastebuds for Weeks. YUK!
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Yup. That's why I stressed "sourced in the USA."
Didn't mean to thank this, meant to hit quote.

Just wanted to say that being sourced in the USA is soon not going to mean anything either. As our chicken is soon to be sent to China for processing and sent back to us for consumption. IOW, it will technically be sourced in the USA, but just been to China and back before it hits our, or our dog's, dinner plate.

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I contacted Rollover Pet Food today (made in Canada ).

They admitted they import their chicken wrapped pork hide twists from China (product example) but "the place where the other brands of chicken have been manufactured in China has no relation to the facility we purchase from"
....cough. I won't touch any place that sources from China.

Be sure to research what you are giving your pet.
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China is such a disturbing country

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Ugh! This is why I only buy treats made at a local company.


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Go to Walmart and buy a dehydrator. I dehydrate beef, elk, moose, liver, heart, salmon and fruit. Cheap, easy to make and dogs will love it.

I have not bought store bought treats for years. Cut thin strips and throw them into a 50 dollar dehydrator. Poof, healthy treats!

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Make sure if you buy a dehydrator for meat, you get one that does the required temps, not all do.
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I contacted Rollover Pet Food today (made in Canada ).

They admitted they import their chicken wrapped pork hide twists from China (product example) but "the place where the other brands of chicken have been manufactured in China has no relation to the facility we purchase from"
....cough. I won't touch any place that sources from China.

Be sure to research what you are giving your pet.
Sounds just like the response from Red Barn to me when I emailed them about their "made in the usa" products.
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The random and inconsistent deaths tells me that the producer is using what ever source of "protein" that they can get. lets say one day it a fairly legit beef source the next run could be road kill the following run could be a all the rats that where poisoned at a grain supplier...deceased animals from laboratories. We cannot trust our food stuffs from China! I also hate it that banks like to give treats, its very nice of them but i am sure its the cheap stuff. I treat mainly with baby carrots.
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I've really just stopped buying treats, and started making our own home treats. Still do bully sticks once in a while, but make sure they're made in the USA. Hope the website isn't lying...
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Make sure if you buy a dehydrator for meat, you get one that does the required temps, not all do.


The one I have has a temperture gauge, I usually make large batches of what ever is available and freeze it. I bring out a bag at a time and keep it stored in my fridge

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I read about this, it's truly frightening and just disgusting (although not really suprising) that these companies are more concerned about profit than beloved pets.

I make all their treats except bones that we get from our local butcher. He brings in cows from Alberta, butchers them himself and sells the bones.

Their food is from Petcurean. All their ingredients are sourced in North America and as close to their processing plants as they can get. Except lamb which comes from New Zealand.

We also try to avoid toys from China or toys where it's unclear where they come from. I've tried making some toys with mixed results but my Mom is going to haul out her old sewing machine and try to teach me how to sew. The things I do for these pups
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I tend to buy from local companies but it is becoming harder and harder, as was said many times nowadays our meat is sent overseas or into South America or Mexico for processing and then comes back to the US to be put in foods. So really there is no guarantee anymore from just reading labels to know if the ingredients have only been handled in the US or if they've been sent elsewhere- you need to call, email, or investigate their websites for that.


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